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      WTF? Klinsmann?

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      JD
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      WTF? Klinsmann?
      Dec 22, 2007 11:45:42 pm
      Won another match have we? Here comes the Sunday papers....

      Liverpool facing money crisis over American owners' £220m debt
      By BOB CASS and DANIEL KING  (One to read - the other to type?)

      Fernando Torres, starting to pay back his £21million transfer fee, scored twice yesterday as Rafa Benitez's Liverpool trounced Portsmouth 4-1 at Anfield to stay in touch with the Premier League pacesetters.

      But off the field, the failure so far of efforts by American owners George Gillett jnr and Tom Hicks to refinance the £220million they borrowed from the Royal Bank of Scotland to fund their takeover of the club 10 months ago is pushing Liverpool towards an unprecedented period of uncertainty.

      The American owners have missed a selfimposed deadline to strike a deal with RBS before Christmas.

      The bank will not allow the club to go under but the problems facing Gillett and Hicks could hasten their departure — and see Dubai International Capital, the state-backed investment firm who were in pole position to buy Liverpool before the arrival of the Americans, back in the market as potential new owners.

      Adding to the intrigue over the club's future, it is understood that former Germany World Cup coach Jürgen Klinsmann has been sounded out as a replacement for Benitez.

      It is believed that contact between Klinsmann and the club has taken place at a high level and the German is thought to be interested in taking over at Anfield.

      Despite assurances that there is money to spend in the January window, Benitez's public rift with Hicks and Gillett over the club's transfer policy may be beyond repair.

      Boardroom backing for Benitez has been lukewarm in the wake of reports linking Klinsmann with the job.

      Sources close to the ex- Tottenham striker and former Footballer of the Year believe he is eager to end his self-imposed exile from football and take a top manager's job.

      A move for Klinsmann could proceed regardless of whether Hicks and Gillett remain the owners of Liverpool, but the crisis in their refinancing plans threatens to undermine the club both on and off the pitch.

      Despite revelations last week that talks with RBS and American bank Wachovia over a new £350m loan had stalled, Kekst, the American owners' New York-based PR firm, continued to brief that a deal would be done before Christmas.

      But Friday, the last day for business before the festive break, passed without announcement and although it is understood that negotiations will continue, banking sources on this side of Atlantic believe an impasse has been reached.

      Hicks and Gillett have until February to refinance the £220m they borrowed from RBS to fund their takeover, plus the interest which has accrued in the past year, the credit notes used to buy Torres and Ryan Babel, and £60m to cover initial work on a new stadium.

      If they are unable to strike a deal before the deadline and unable to persuade RBS to take up the option of extending the existing loan for another year, the bank stand to become the de facto owners of the club.


      The fact that Liverpool are in the papers with these kind of stories is 100% down to the completely ineffective communication coming out from the club.  WHO is actually in charge at Anfield, and should be coming out and telling EVERYONE what is really going on.  I'm getting tired and bored of every Sunday having a new bunch of speculation heading our way.

      It really stopped being funny about 3 months ago.  >:(
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      Reply #1: Dec 23, 2007 12:31:22 am
      Well said JD
      In Rafa we trust and the club needs to sort its public communication out
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      Reply #2: Dec 23, 2007 01:06:42 am
      RAFA FOR EVER!!!
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      Reply #3: Dec 23, 2007 01:37:48 am
      if klinsmann was to ever get te job then there would be no-one chanting his name round afield other than 'klinsmann out ;D'
      RAFA FOREVER
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      Reply #4: Dec 23, 2007 02:51:09 am
      Klinsman has the knack of finishing half the job and dissapeared elsewhere. We don't need him to spend 2 seasons and win us the league cup and dissapears next which will cause us to drft further apart from the arse, scums and chel#ki.
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      Reply #5: Dec 23, 2007 03:41:07 am
      We don't want him or anyone else full stop,we have Rafa and we should be standing by him.

      All of this is starting to make us a laughing stock and I'm sick of it it all needs to be cleared up and the truth needs to be out,if there hiding something it will come out and when it does its going to be 10 times worse then if it happens now.

      IN RAFA WE TRUST

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      Reply #6: Dec 23, 2007 03:47:56 am
      Rafa need to so something now.Juz stop rotating players and improve the squad as he did.
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      Reply #7: Dec 23, 2007 03:57:15 am
      It all seems very vague. There were not definite contacts with anybody, and I'm sure there are many coaches that would like Benitez's job. Now that the press have found one, they're gonna throw him all over the news. It's all rubbish.
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      Reply #8: Dec 23, 2007 03:59:57 am
      Sounds to me like all the piss takers in the world have suddenly turned into journalists, got together and decided to bring the best English football club in history down. Klinsmann me arse!
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      Reply #9: Dec 23, 2007 08:04:27 am
       My thoughts on the situation are we do need RAFA but we dont need Hicks and Gillett.The quicker someone buys them out the better.This club has always given their managers a good run befor replacing them and RAFA deserves the same treatment,after all he can not be considered a failure with his success rate at Anfield.
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      Reply #10: Dec 23, 2007 09:43:06 am
      Why doesn't Parry come out and say these stories are "absolute rubbish" like he does about anything that mentions the Yanks or the stadium. The c**t.
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      Reply #11: Dec 23, 2007 01:37:33 pm
      Why doesn't Parry come out and say these stories are "absolute rubbish" like he does about anything that mentions the Yanks or the stadium. The c**t.


      Exactly my thoughts. I guess he's told to when it involves the owners. It's an absolute disgrace to leave the fans waiting on scraps of gossip and lies with no real clear statement as to what's going on. At least a statement saying that the recent rumours are just rumours, but no, nothing....which leads me to believe there is something clearly wrong.

       
      « Last Edit: Dec 23, 2007 01:40:02 pm by LondonRed »
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      Reply #12: Dec 23, 2007 04:03:33 pm
      It really shocked me, that story, I read Liverpoolfc.tv and soccernet.espn.go com everyday but I never read some posts that mention It! I hope It's all rubish, really!
      Even thought we think that we need Rafa Benitez and we don't need Gillett or Hick, money is really something important now in football. If this story is true (I said 'if'!) may be we have to accept the fact that Klishman will replace boss Rafa Benitez, we don't want to, but we have to accept. But if there's nothing wrong, but those owners want to fire boss Rafa Benitez, they will see (like they have saw in the match against Porto) how is football in England, and how is football's fans in England! In Rafa we trust! You'll never walk alone!   
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      Reply #13: Dec 23, 2007 04:44:00 pm
      Usually when the press get hold of something like this it happens eventually,Rafa is facing the same situation as Jol did at Spurs only a matter of time before hes gone and Klinnsmann is in i think,hope im wrong but theres no smoke without fire.
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      Reply #14: Dec 23, 2007 05:05:40 pm
      Man! YOu made me feel more and more worried! (There's smoke when You put acide in NH3 thought!)
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      Reply #15: Dec 23, 2007 05:34:02 pm
      Why doesn't Parry come out and say these stories are "absolute rubbish" like he does about anything that mentions the Yanks or the stadium. The c**t.
      You have summed up my thoughts precisely!!  I don't even want to start thinking about this one cause it'll ruin my Christmas!!     A Merry Christmas to Klinsmen, Parry and our two American jokes (cu*ts)
      Merry Christmas everybody
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      Re: WTF? Klinsmann?
      Reply #16: Dec 23, 2007 05:34:47 pm
      Could I possibly ask why the F**k every single one of you who has posted in this topic are so irrate over an article that if you read between the lines is obvious crap. So many of you seem so preoccupied with this utter bullshit, Just take a minute to think about some of your statements and take a minute to think and read what is being said.

      Sorry guys but I think you are overreacting on this one, in the article where do they give any evidence for their so called truth?
      For example

      "It is believed that contact between Klinsmann and the club has taken place at a high level and the German is thought to be interested in taking over at Anfield."

      Believed by who a source at the club a source in the FA or some tramp found pissed up in the Fulham Road and given a tenner by the reporters to be their so called source...pmufff

      I would agree with JD in some respects regarding the communication and I would put forward an idea that someone needs to be given the job of communications and media officer at the club. Because Rick Parry lacks charisma is a very bad communicator with people and has all the personallity of wet flannel. However I would possibly argue that in some respects you have to give the club credit for not being drawn into open comments or quotes that could be misconstrude and get used out of context. In this instance I would catagorically state that this article has been written with the hope of getting some sort of sound bite or reaction from LFC. Another thing to note people is the following thing OH AND THIS REALLY IS THE IMPORTANT BIT

      The Daily Mail is owned by GUESS WHO Associated Newspapers!! Who the F**k are they I hear you ask??

      Rupert Murdoch owns  the S*n & Times via News International Mail which is part of Associated Newspapers!!! Im sorry to be a big headed tosser here but please correct me if Im wrong dont we have a history of trouble making statements from any news sources owned by Murdoch. Until there is a press conference or official statement from the club I wouldnt even bother reading this garbage. And to start worrying about it just adds fuel to their little fire, SSPR. sh*t STIRRING PRESS REPORTS, they are everywhere. But I suppose it does give us something to talk about and really laugh about because its that pathetic.

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      oh I forgot to mention wasnt there something written a while back about Cappello becoming the new Liverpool manager?? Could someone remind me how that turned out!!!! :f_tongueincheek:
      « Last Edit: Dec 23, 2007 05:38:44 pm by pragmatic »
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      Reply #17: Dec 23, 2007 05:43:34 pm
       :) :) :) :) :)Parry could steps aside from all media communications and concentrate on his principal function of testiculating and blowing sunshine up the Americans arse's!! :) :) :) :) :)
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      Re: WTF? Klinsmann?
      Reply #18: Dec 23, 2007 05:51:46 pm
      pragmatic a gem couldnt have been put any better why give the fckers airspace
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      Reply #19: Dec 23, 2007 06:25:29 pm
      We do have a press officer. Ian Cotton.

      Seems like he gets November and December off though. 
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      Reply #20: Dec 23, 2007 06:52:50 pm
      Could I possibly ask why the F**k every single one of you who has posted in this topic are so irrate over an article that if you read between the lines is obvious crap. So many of you seem so preoccupied with this utter bullshit, Just take a minute to think about some of your statements and take a minute to think and read what is being said.

      Sorry guys but I think you are overreacting on this one, in the article where do they give any evidence for their so called truth?
      For example

      "It is believed that contact between Klinsmann and the club has taken place at a high level and the German is thought to be interested in taking over at Anfield."

      Believed by who a source at the club a source in the FA or some tramp found pissed up in the Fulham Road and given a tenner by the reporters to be their so called source...pmufff

      I would agree with JD in some respects regarding the communication and I would put forward an idea that someone needs to be given the job of communications and media officer at the club. Because Rick Parry lacks charisma is a very bad communicator with people and has all the personallity of wet flannel. However I would possibly argue that in some respects you have to give the club credit for not being drawn into open comments or quotes that could be misconstrude and get used out of context. In this instance I would catagorically state that this article has been written with the hope of getting some sort of sound bite or reaction from LFC. Another thing to note people is the following thing OH AND THIS REALLY IS THE IMPORTANT BIT

      The Daily Mail is owned by GUESS WHO Associated Newspapers!! Who the F**k are they I hear you ask??

      Rupert Murdoch owns  the S*n & Times via News International Mail which is part of Associated Newspapers!!! Im sorry to be a big headed tosser here but please correct me if Im wrong dont we have a history of trouble making statements from any news sources owned by Murdoch. Until there is a press conference or official statement from the club I wouldnt even bother reading this garbage. And to start worrying about it just adds fuel to their little fire, SSPR. sh*t STIRRING PRESS REPORTS, they are everywhere. But I suppose it does give us something to talk about and really laugh about because its that pathetic.

      Interessing analysis, You might be right!

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      oh I forgot to mention wasnt there something written a while back about Cappello becoming the new Liverpool manager?? Could someone remind me how that turned out!!!! :f_tongueincheek:

      It turn out to be the best joke before chrismas
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      Re: WTF? Klinsmann?
      Reply #21: Dec 23, 2007 07:01:04 pm
      Could I possibly ask why the F**k every single one of you who has posted in this topic are so irrate over an article that if you read between the lines is obvious crap.

      I said Klinsmann me arse.
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      Reply #22: Dec 23, 2007 08:53:44 pm
      read bascombes peice in the NOTW? love CB or hate him? hes never often wrong..............hope too f##k these yankee emperors in false clothing get the F**k out of here! making lfc look like a bunch of f##king amatures!.........come too think of it????????????? actually mr parry is isnt he! HOW CAN SPURS GET A BETTER SHIRT SPONSORSHIP DEAL THAN FIVE TIMES CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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