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      WTF? Klinsmann?

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      The Fallen Soldier
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      Re: WTF? Klinsmann?
      Reply #23: Dec 23, 2007 09:23:36 pm
      read bascombes peice in the NOTW? love CB or hate him? hes never often wrong..............hope too f##k these yankee emperors in false clothing get the F**k out of here! making lfc look like a bunch of f##king amatures!.........come too think of it????????????? actually mr parry is isnt he! HOW CAN SPURS GET A BETTER SHIRT SPONSORSHIP DEAL THAN FIVE TIMES CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

      Bascomb never wrong LMAO ROTFL what a complete load of crap mate. Bascomb the biggest traitor there is never wrong ha ha ha ha ha. The man who accuses all OOTs to be glory hunting scum, the man who states he is LFC through and through, yet the hypocrit goes and joins the S*ns sister paper lmao rotfl oh my god mate youve just made my night thats the funniest complete load of bollox Ive heard this year, I shall be chuckling to that one for ages.
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      Re: WTF? Klinsmann?
      Reply #24: Dec 23, 2007 10:24:14 pm
      read bascombes peice in the NOTW? love CB or hate him? hes never often wrong..............hope too f##k these yankee emperors in false clothing get the F**k out of here! making lfc look like a bunch of f##king amatures!.........come too think of it????????????? actually mr parry is isnt he! HOW CAN SPURS GET A BETTER SHIRT SPONSORSHIP DEAL THAN FIVE TIMES CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

      It's a load of my arse! And Bascombe isn't right as often as you imagine mate!

      Recall the last few stories of Jose Mourinho coming in place of Rafa, etc.... ::)
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      Reply #25: Dec 24, 2007 02:33:23 pm
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      It really shocked me, that story, I read Liverpoolfc.tv and soccernet.espn.go com everyday but I never read some posts that mention It! I hope It's all rubish, really!
      Even thought we think that we need Rafa Benitez and we don't need Gillett or Hick, money is really something important now in football. If this story is true (I said 'if'!) may be we have to accept the fact that Klishman will replace boss Rafa Benitez, we don't want to, but we have to accept. But if there's nothing wrong, but those owners want to fire boss Rafa Benitez, they will see (like they have saw in the match against Porto) how is football in England, and how is football's fans in England! In Rafa we trust! You'll never walk alone!  

      Sorry pal, I beg to differ, having Klinsman on the job is definitely not on for me, as he has no previous track record of managing a top European club and neither has he tasted success and failure in this role before. Too big a risk and he may turned out worst off than Souness while Rafa has all the credentials for the job. Look at Rafa's record for the last 3 years and he has achieved more than what others tried to do in their lifetime as a manager with some mediocre players left for him to manage. Yes, Rafa has got its wrongs but he has got more rights than wrongs. 

      Pal, sorry  I beg to differ again, in reality G&H do not have the financial resources as what is perceived by you, read the many articles that have been flying around, believe only a portion of it and you may tend to agree. LFC was thought to be a money machine for G&H without really investing at all but through heavy borrowings but soon enough they found out how far wrong they were.  Yes, money means success in modern football and LFC definitely needs that. And this coming from G&H, quick unlikely so.  Listen to all the rumours going around and it appears that the Yanks have even got problems trying to service their loan interest and this speaks for itself on their financial standings. I don't mean to believe literally every word that comes out of the press. But if you were to work on some correlation between the issues, ie. Rafa fallout with the Yanks, only Mr. Parry can make financial decisions/decide on who to buy, scaling down the new stadium, it all fits in nicely. So the press cannot be too far wrong. In summary, G&H is not that wealthy after all and don't be deceived that they can bring us to another level of success, it's just wishful thinking. How can we assume that G&H is wealthy when they have to borrow heavily (230 million pounds) to buy the club in the first place.

      Sorry pal, I may be from the old school of brotherhood clan, to betray Rafa for the American dollars (to start with they are not wealthy at all), no way, I prefer to stick by the manager whom has already shown us what he can and has already achieved withthe limited resources available then.
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      Reply #26: Dec 24, 2007 05:41:01 pm
      Pal, sorry  I beg to differ again, in reality G&H do not have the financial resources as what is perceived by you, read the many articles that have been flying around, believe only a portion of it and you may tend to agree. LFC was thought to be a money machine for G&H without really investing at all but through heavy borrowings but soon enough they found out how far wrong they were.  Yes, money means success in modern football and LFC definitely needs that. And this coming from G&H, quick unlikely so.  Listen to all the rumours going around and it appears that the Yanks have even got problems trying to service their loan interest and this speaks for itself on their financial standings. I don't mean to believe literally every word that comes out of the press. But if you were to work on some correlation between the issues, ie. Rafa fallout with the Yanks, only Mr. Parry can make financial decisions/decide on who to buy, scaling down the new stadium, it all fits in nicely. So the press cannot be too far wrong. In summary, G&H is not that wealthy after all and don't be deceived that they can bring us to another level of success, it's just wishful thinking. How can we assume that G&H is wealthy when they have to borrow heavily (230 million pounds) to buy the club in the first place.

      Sorry pal, I may be from the old school of brotherhood clan, to betray Rafa for the American dollars (to start with they are not wealthy at all), no way, I prefer to stick by the manager whom has already shown us what he can and has already achieved withthe limited resources available then.

      Your non sequential ramblings offer no evidence. You state about rumours going around and the many artlicles that have been written and write in a way that in your mind that that is proof enough. Sorry mate but you just dont make any sense what so ever. And as for rumours these are often circulated via circumstantial conversations or people saying things that are out of context and are quoted so. I would possibly argue you write your posts like a Journalist, with very little thought for your statments. You state it all fits nicely and so the press cannot be far wrong, well Im sorry to burst your bubble but they can be, look at the reports about Cappelo, G&H sacking Rafa and replacing him, and all the other "SO CALLED TRUTH" out there. You sound to me like the many sheep that follow the media with open mouths ready to swallow all the bullshit as gospel yet you give no evidence for your assumptions, only repeat what has been said in the media and try to justify your arguments with circumstantial retoric.

      I personnally take very little notice of anything that circulates in the media because 90% of it is crap, and I also take pride in the fact that I question everything and if someone makes a statement they should be able to prove it using properly obtained evidence. Well Im afraid that nothing you have said does this what so ever, and in no uncertain terms should anyone take anything like this as being truth or not far from the truth. Rafa being sacked was according to sky news sportsline coming any day now and that was 6 weeks ago, Bascombe reported Rafa was being sacked and Jose was coming in to replace him, Other media reported Cappelo had been approached by LFC and was being lined up to replace him, and so on and so forth thats three lists of crap right there yet you still hold the position that the press are not far from the truth!!! Sorry PAL but I know what I believe and until someone from the club actually comes out and says something Im not inclined to believe any of it, no matter what you may read.
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      Reply #27: Dec 25, 2007 10:33:38 pm
      Prag - have a seat lad.

      Whilst I certainly don't believe the vast majority of what is written in the red-tops unfortunately this does influence stupid football players, paranoid managers and dimwitted Chief Executives and Chairman.

      The stories concerning Liverpool, whether true or not, are in the papers now on an almost daily basis.  They are damaging morale amongst the supporter and I am convinced they have an effect on the players too, and despite what the manager may or may not know it must have an impact on his mental state to some degree.

      Liverpool could have quoshed these rumours very easily - even threatening legal action against the papers etc.  The fact they have not honestly come out and backed the boss and laughed off these stories proves that they truly are incompetent.
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      Reply #28: Dec 25, 2007 11:32:05 pm
      Prag - have a seat lad.

      Whilst I certainly don't believe the vast majority of what is written in the red-tops unfortunately this does influence stupid football players, paranoid managers and dimwitted Chief Executives and Chairman.

      The stories concerning Liverpool, whether true or not, are in the papers now on an almost daily basis.  They are damaging morale amongst the supporter and I am convinced they have an effect on the players too, and despite what the manager may or may not know it must have an impact on his mental state to some degree.

      Liverpool could have quoshed these rumours very easily - even threatening legal action against the papers etc.  The fact they have not honestly come out and backed the boss and laughed off these stories proves that they truly are incompetent.

      kool mate I am seated and you may join me with a glass of the usual.
      If LFC came out and made a statement about every single story perpatrated by the press they would be on TV or in the press every 3 minutes or so. In my honest opion if that keeping quite and saying nothing is good enough for the Royal Family then its sure good enough for LFC, by saying nothing then nothing can not be misconstrude, quoted out of context or used to fuel anti Liverpool propaganda, and I reitterated what I stated unless the club actually come out with a solid FACTUAL statement, its bollox, as far as Im concerned it is all propaganda sold to unsettle the club the players and the fans and until such a statement is forthcoming should be seen as such. We as LFC supporters are held with the reputation by many for being the most intelligent and knowledgeable fans, all I am saying is we should use that intelligence instead of swallowing the bull that is printed or highlighted on TV.
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      Reply #29: Dec 26, 2007 07:09:39 am
      These last few months have been ridiculous. Klinsmann? MY ARSE!

      Like I've already said, it seems like the all the piss takers in the world have come out and want to write words to bring the best English club in history down.
      If you could imagine a documentary about surviving in the wild and the way Mr Attenborough has that pessimistic tone in his voice.....? That's what would happen if he's been studying the press' view of Liverpool FC lately.

      But it wont bring us fans down. Well, the fans who know how to take a pinch of salt it wont.

      What concerns me though is continuous piss taking with little or no statements from the club. True, I'd rather things be quiet and for us not to be reacting to everything that's thought up from disgraceful, glory hunting, pathetic, I wish I could have been good at footy at school, loser journalists. It's always best just to get on with all things Liverpool.
      But the notion of disconnection in the midst of all this really pisses me off when it comes to Liverpool. And it is true that we've been somewhat disconnected in the last few months when it's come down to any sort of statements. And when I say 'we've' I mean us, the players and the manager.

      You have to have a plan to succeed. You need all parties to be involved to make this happen. This is only stonewall from the manager downwards so far. I for one, will be very angry if my support and love is taken advantage of, from lack of involvement at the top.

      In other words. Klinsmann me arse. But get everything out in the open what's going on so we can progress.
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      Reply #30: Dec 26, 2007 09:04:02 pm
      simple do not want him he is nowhere near as experienced and as good as rafa
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      Reply #31: Jan 08, 2008 12:57:54 pm
      This has surfaced again. Why? He managed his country in the world cup in 06. As hosts they didnt have to qualify. Ok they got to the semis but in 02 south Korea got to the semis as hosts in 98 France won it as hosts in 94 the usa had a decent tournament as hosts. What Im getting at is Klinsmann has done nothing exceptional in management so why is he being linked with Liverpool? Is he a mate of one of our owners?

      Id be somewhat bitter if we sacked Rafa and replaced him with this fella   
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      Reply #32: Jan 08, 2008 01:00:11 pm
      He would be good at diving training...
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      Reply #33: Jan 08, 2008 02:35:26 pm
      This has surfaced again. Why? He managed his country in the world cup in 06. As hosts they didnt have to qualify. Ok they got to the semis but in 02 south Korea got to the semis as hosts in 98 France won it as hosts in 94 the usa had a decent tournament as hosts. What Im getting at is Klinsmann has done nothing exceptional in management so why is he being linked with Liverpool? Is he a mate of one of our owners?

      Id be somewhat bitter if we sacked Rafa and replaced him with this fella  

      This has surfaced again Bri because 'a source close to Klinsmann' has said Klinsmann would be interested in taking on a job with a top European Club. Amazing how things can be twisted isn't it mate.
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      Reply #34: Jan 08, 2008 02:43:05 pm
      This has surfaced again Bri because 'a source close to Klinsmann' has said Klinsmann would be interested in taking on a job with a top European Club. Amazing how things can be twisted isn't it mate.

      Was the sauce on the bottle... I mean was it HP or Heinz...?
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      Reply #35: Jan 08, 2008 02:49:18 pm
      Was the sauce on the bottle... I mean was it HP or Heinz...?

      It was in a sachet. And it was found in the gutter.
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      Reply #36: Jan 08, 2008 02:58:27 pm
      It was in a sachet. And it was found in the gutter.

      Brown sauce then... full of sh*t.
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      Reply #37: Jan 08, 2008 05:58:20 pm
      I heard that Klinsmann lives in California and has become 'friends' of Gillett.

      Jürgen Klinsmann can F**k right off.  I don't want him.  Especially after that goal celebration.

      No way. NO WAY.
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      Reply #38: Jan 09, 2008 01:21:47 am
      Klinsmann might be friends with Gillett. He's lived in the states for a while now hasn't he, Klinsmann? But most of the articles last night only sourced someone close to Klinsmann, saying how he would like to manage a top European side. For all we know, it might have been Hick's gimp who was the source. But there was no direct link to Liverpool in it was there. And it's pathetic how tonight they've forgot about Klinsmann and focused on Rafa's words in the Echo today.

      Klinsmann can still F**k right off though!!
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      Reply #39: Jan 09, 2008 01:26:21 am
      His 'goal' celebration at Anfield when they knocked us out the cup.



      Did Benitez ever celebrate like this when with an opposing club? No.

      (The fact he wasn't on the pitch is irrelevant)  :f_whistle:
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      Reply #40: Jan 09, 2008 11:02:50 am
      If Gillet thinks Klinsmann is the sort of man to suit Liverpool...then he REALLY doesn't know the culture of the club (i.e. us the fans) he has bought into...

      Rafa suits us down to the ground and clearly, us to him too...

      IRWT
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      Reply #41: Jan 11, 2008 10:17:33 am
      It has just been reported on Radio City that Klinsmann has been named as the new boss of Bayern Munich for the start of next season.

      At least that puts any speculation to one side of him taking over at Anfield.
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      Reply #42: Jan 11, 2008 10:19:24 am
      It has just been reported on Radio City that Klinsmann has been named as the new boss of Bayern Munich for the start of next season.

      At least that puts any speculation to one side of him taking over at Anfield.
      I saw that on SSN this morning, good news for Rafa and puts our minds at ease.
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      Reply #43: Jan 11, 2008 10:44:56 am
      I saw that on SSN this morning, good news for Rafa and puts our minds at ease.

      Until we find out where Ottmar Hitzfeld is off to that is! ;D
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      Reply #44: Jan 11, 2008 11:27:16 am
      Why get a manager who has never managed at club level? Okay fairplay he did well in the world cup due to unsucessfulness of other teams,e.g. England! He doesn't understand the pressures of the prem. He hasnt ever bought his own players! So who would he bring in?? :S There is a high demand for top class  players in the prem, and i don't feel he will be able to bring them in!
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      Reply #45: Jan 11, 2008 11:38:12 am
      It has just been reported on Radio City that Klinsmann has been named as the new boss of Bayern Munich for the start of next season.

      At least that puts any speculation to one side of him taking over at Anfield.
      Heard that today while i was playing FIFA 08 (online), Benitez is here to stay! :D

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