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      bartman49
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      Re: LIVER-REDS FC the next FCUM or AFC Wimbledon?
      Reply #30: Feb 28, 2008 02:10:08 pm
      If we ever make bid to start over with fans it means we have failed and the yanks will not relinquish their hold on LFC.Todays supporters have very little say on the clubs at the top end of the EPL the only thing we have any power over is that of buying goods and staying away from games because that hits home,no profit,no point.If ever we come to that it will mean Hicks failings at understanding the fans is the only way he will lose this struggle but I do not think he's that stupid it would be like cutting his nose off to spite his face and way before we go down that road he'll sell.

      DIC have not commented on anything and that gives me hope that their is some truth in the meetings between Hicks and DIC so maybe it's not so bad as it feels and there is some light at the end of the tunnel.As for Parry he seems to be a marked man whatever happens but what I really want to know is why did Moores switch sides at the last minute when selling the club,he took years looking for the right people to take over and we ended up with the biggest liars in our history so how could a man with the best of intentions get it so wrong....
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      Re: LIVER-REDS FC the next FCUM or AFC Wimbledon?
      Reply #31: Feb 28, 2008 02:57:26 pm
      I really want to know is why did Moores switch sides at the last minute when selling the club,he took years looking for the right people to take over and we ended up with the biggest liars in our history so how could a man with the best of intentions get it so wrong....
      Simple! 8m quid turned his head, That why we haven't heard a word from our esteemed "honorary chairman"
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      Re: LIVER-REDS FC the next FCUM or AFC Wimbledon?
      Reply #32: Feb 28, 2008 03:35:59 pm
      I'm just surprised there is so much little activity in this thread Don.  It's an excellent idea.

      Any deadline set for the FA to consider the proposal?
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      Re: LIVER-REDS FC the next FCUM or AFC Wimbledon?
      Reply #33: Feb 28, 2008 03:44:24 pm
      What I really want to know is why did Moores switch sides at the last minute when selling the club,he took years looking for the right people to take over and we ended up with the biggest liars in our history so how could a man with the best of intentions get it so wrong....

      Right this is THE diamond question of this whole sale saga/fiasco...

      Moores family is NOT "legaly bound" to sell to highest bidder as this was a PRIVATE transaction between the Moores family and G&H brokered by Parry... so all that we were fed about "legally bound" stuff is total bollocks coming probably from Parry.

      GBP 8M differential is true - but also the structure of the funding for working capital and the under-estimation of the stadium budgets (later proved to be VERY true) were mentioned by DIC when they said they would not pay over the odds for LFC.

      Therefore you may start to think cynically - what could have happened?

      Moores family are multi-millionaires in there own right and would NOT be swayed by GBP 8M for the love of their life LFC - I don't really think so.

      So the finger starts turning towards, yes you've guessed it, pubes head himself, Mr Rick Parry...

      Would Parry be interested in the extra GBP 8M, as he personally brokered a deal with Moores for commission for the bid as he acted as deal liason manager? - probably YES.

      Would have Parry rushed through an offer from Gillet and lastminute.com financing saviour Hicks (to make up the numbers) in order to ensure he would still be in a CEO job at the club... and get higher commission to boot? - probably YES.

      Would Parry innocently ignore short-comings in stadium budgets, financing, credit-crunch warning (interest rates having been creeping up steadily for over a year now in the global markets) in order to get the G&H deal through - probably YES.

      Would Parry manipulate and deflect, in the early days of this saga (later taken over by Mr Hicks himself), media attention away from the procurement and financing fiasco, via a silent non-supportive campaign, to get Rafa Benitez ousted and a new man in? - probably YES.

      Would Parry probably take a second secret (Bermuda bound) set of commissions from Hicks on a second (theoretical) profitable deal between Hicks and DIC, knowing he would be out of a job with DIC the second after such as deal?  - probably YES.

      I think i'll (probably) rest my case.

      Mr Moores you put the destiny of your/our beloved club in the wrong hands - Not Gillett and Hicks --- but in pubes head RICK PARRY the man who soon will be looking for a job again within Soho Square or the EPL which he founded. To call you naive would be an understatement.
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      Re: LIVER-REDS FC the next FCUM or AFC Wimbledon?
      Reply #34: Feb 29, 2008 10:12:33 pm
      Just read my last post...seeing you are not interested in AFC Liverpool....
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      Re: LIVER-REDS FC the next FCUM or AFC Wimbledon?
      Reply #35: Mar 01, 2008 05:28:46 pm
      JUST RECEIVED THIS.... NOT SURE THEY CAN DO THIS.

      I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE FA YET... BUT IS THE MAIL I RECEIVED FYI.

      Hi

      We have now reached the point where you can join AFC Liverpool !!!! This is a potentially historic club, and you now have the chance to be a founder member.

      http://www.afcliverpool.org.uk

      AFC Liverpool is currently in discussions with the North West Counties League with the aim of playing competitive football in time for the forthcoming season.

      To make this happen we need you to become a founder member of the club. At this stage, the key thing we need is the money to make this club viable.

      It is now up to our fellow Reds to provide that by donating to the club, and by joining the club itself.

      http://www.afcliverpool.org.uk

      AFC Liverpool will be a fans owned, fans run club. The more we can raise the more likely it is that we can make this a huge success.

      But without that money this venture will not succeed.

      It is up to you now. You can breathe life into AFC Liverpool by becoming a founder member, by donating to the cause, and by making regular gifts to the club.

      The minimum you need to pay to become a founder member of AFC Liverpool is just £10. But we'd ask you to be generous if you can do and give more if you possibly can. (People have paid £35 to own Ebbsfleet Utd, so we'd suggest the same here if you can!)

      You can become a founder member RIGHT NOW by visiting http://www.afcliverpool.org.uk

      Let's make this happen!!

      AFC Liverpool
      http://www.afcliverpool.org.uk

      PS Everyone who joins the club in this first wave of membership will receive a Founder Member Certificate from the club!! Your place in our history! So don't just join for you - join your kids and your grandkids too and give them a place in our history also!!

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      Reply #36: Mar 18, 2008 05:40:27 pm
      Liverpool supporters have formed their own "little brother" club AFC Liverpool after being priced out of going to Anfield.


      AFC Liverpool are the latest 'fans' club after the success of first AFC Wimbledon and then FC United and they have applied to the Vodkat North West Counties League Division Two to enter a team for next season.


      But unlike FC United - formed in protest at the Glazer ownership - AFC Liverpool hope to flourish alongside the club and have been launched purely to give fans a team to watch outside of the big Premier League prices.


      Club spokesman Alun Parry told the Daily Telegraph: "This has nothing to do with the ownership issue, it's about affordability. I've been going to Anfield since the late Seventies when I was six years old. A season ticket in the Kop cost £45 in 1985, today it's £650, which I know is a lot cheaper than some other Premier League clubs, but in inflation terms Eighties prices should equate to £98 today.


      "We aren't blaming the club, we realise they have no choice, but the sad fact is that a whole community is being denied the opportunity to grow up in the 'match-going' culture. The average age of a Premier League supporter is now 43. At a recent game I spotted only two children, so kids who can't afford to go are forced to learn what it means to support a club from one source - television.


      "Far from wishing to be estranged from the club, we are hoping that Liverpool will look upon us as a little brother."




      Does anyone know about this? sounds strange to me, good luck to the guys tho.

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      Reply #37: Mar 18, 2008 07:45:52 pm
      Does anyone know about this? sounds strange to me, good luck to the guys tho.

      Send a PM to Donrafael he might know a bit about it! ;)
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      Re: LIVER-REDS FC the next FCUM or AFC Wimbledon?
      Reply #38: Mar 19, 2008 01:24:00 am
      will this situation be like the one madrid have?
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      Re: LIVER-REDS FC the next FCUM or AFC Wimbledon?
      Reply #39: Mar 19, 2008 01:40:25 pm
      i said it before and ill say it again if your priced out of Anfield why not support the Liverpool FC reserves? 
      ste_macca
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      Re: LIVER-REDS FC the next FCUM or AFC Wimbledon?
      Reply #40: Mar 19, 2008 01:51:42 pm
      I said it before and ill say it again if your priced out of Anfield why not support the Liverpool FC reserves? 

      If they didnt play up in Warrington at silly times, played a bit more local, and gave more youth a chance into the first team, then maybe more people would support Liverpool reserves.
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      Reply #41: Mar 19, 2008 01:57:28 pm
      If they didnt play up in Warrington at silly times, played a bit more local, and gave more youth a chance into the first team, then maybe more people would support Liverpool reserves.

      Plus some people only have time to go to a game at weekends, reserve games are played on weekday evenings.
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      Reply #42: Mar 19, 2008 02:09:00 pm
      Plus some people only have time to go to a game at weekends, reserve games are played on weekday evenings.

      Reserves used to play at Anfield aswell not so long ago, and this was how some fans would start supporting our team, then gradually end up watching the first team play. Maybe reverting back to Anfield would be beneficial to everyone, fans  and the reserves themselves.

      Then maybe if that happened there would be no need for an  LIVER-REDS FC the next FCUM or AFC Wimbledon?
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      Reply #43: Mar 19, 2008 02:59:54 pm
      Fair points lads. I cant see the club letting reserve games back at Anfield sadly. Theyd say it would be too many games on the pitch!  However if they could play somwhere in the area I think getting behind the reserves would be a better option then forming a new club. 
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      Reply #44: Mar 19, 2008 04:24:17 pm
      would be good to see the reserves getting more support, as Shanks said "theres only two teams in liverpool, liverpool and liverpool reserves"
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      Reply #45: Mar 19, 2008 04:32:46 pm
      Fair points lads. I cant see the club letting reserve games back at Anfield sadly. Theyd say it would be too many games on the pitch!  However if they could play somwhere in the area I think getting behind the reserves would be a better option then forming a new club. 

      Ian St John thinks exactly the same Bri. He was talking about it the other weekend on Radio City Terrace Talk.

      Each to their own I suppose. Good luck to the new team.
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      Reply #46: May 04, 2008 01:19:04 am
      What the truck! I've never heard of this one before
      Let's discuss...
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      Reply #47: May 04, 2008 11:10:40 am
      Bollocks to this, theres only one club in my heart and thats this one. LFC is the ONE AND ONLY! Ill be suporting our historical club through thick and THIN what ever happens just like a real supporter should do.
      donrafael
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      Reply #48: May 04, 2008 01:31:21 pm
      AFC Wimbledon the re-birth of Wimbledon got promoted to the Blue Square Conf south yesterday and are steadily making it back up the ladder...four promotions so far I think... BUT ... that was because that club's fans had their club stolen and moved to MK.

      That is not the case of Liverpool FC.

      I am still struggling to understand the concept of the formation of AFC Liverpool if it becomes a fully independent club to Liverpool FC...

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      Reply #49: May 05, 2008 08:29:52 pm
      I don't really see the point in creating another team to replace ours.  The Manc's have achieved sod all with theirs, the Glazers have done as much as any of the fans could have hoped.  Pie in the sky and a bit fruitless imo.
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      Reply #50: May 06, 2008 12:33:18 am
      They had the 'trials' for new players yesterday.  Bit of an interview on BBC News earlier tonight and it will probably be covered more in the Echo and the Post tomorrow.

      Seems it's run by this Alun Parry fella who seems to be some sort of musician.  If you get googling you will probably see that initially it was aimed at the 'disillusionment' at ticket prices and the chairmen, now it seems to have moved to just disillusionment with ticket prices although they hope to have 'close ties' with Liverpool FC.

      Don't really understand the theory behind it.  He said that the 'fans' would be singing YNWA as this team run out? I can't see that for non-league footie.

      Besides that if the issue really is ticket prices then why don't all the people go and watch Liverpool reserves then?  Pretty f**king simple if you ask me.

      Oh, and if you want to sign up as a member they 'recommend' £35.

      Keep enjoying this forum.  It's possibly one of the last bastion's of a Liverpool 'fans group' that you don't have to pay for!
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      Reply #51: May 06, 2008 12:54:41 am
      Besides that if the issue really is ticket prices then why don't all the people go and watch Liverpool reserves then?  Pretty F***ing simple if you ask me.

      It's not rocket science is it. That's actually the thoughts of a lot of people I've spoke to about it. Not to mention a good few ex red players thoughts as well.

      If people don't think it was an aim against the current fiasco that's surrounded our club off the pitch this last several months, then it's a little bit naive.

      But I've got nothing against it. Good luck to them. Personally I only see it as another club that's local. I don't understand how anyone can really support more than one team.
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      Reply #52: May 06, 2008 12:58:32 am
      Count me in. I would cheer for the AFC...very good idea!
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      Reply #53: May 06, 2008 12:59:44 am
      Count me in. I would cheer for the AFC...very good idea!

      So you'd cheer for AFC Liverpool instead of Liverpool?
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      Reply #54: May 06, 2008 01:23:12 am
      I've added a poll.

      With things progressing on the AFC Liverpool front, it will be very interesting to see how many people will take an interest in this now.

      If they get up and running, I'll look out for their results but that's where it will end.
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      Reply #55: May 06, 2008 07:39:45 am
      there is one Pure Red club, that is liverpool fc. End of subject for me.
      YNWA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      Reply #56: May 06, 2008 08:01:53 am
      I just dont get this i drive to anfield with my dad  quite regular a drive of over 430 miles depending which way you go and let me say its a miserable ride home when dad is snoring and we.ve lost to some shitty team ,it dont stop me lovimg the reds and by time we get home we just cant wait to go back as there is plenty of time for a reality check on the way ,agreed the ticketing issue is a bit of a fiasco but you either love  the reds or you dont its not something you can just switch off or on depending on the mood .I sit with fans or supposed fans down the club mostly glory hunters and soon as things dont go their way they dissapear ,we are not like that ,or at least i hope we are not turning out like that.YNWA
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      Reply #57: May 06, 2008 08:12:24 am
      I just dont get this I drive to anfield with my dad  quite regular a drive of over 430 miles depending which way you go and let me say its a miserable ride home when dad is snoring and we.ve lost to some shitty team ,it dont stop me lovimg the reds and by time we get home we just cant wait to go back as there is plenty of time for a reality check on the way ,agreed the ticketing issue is a bit of a fiasco but you either love  the reds or you dont its not something you can just switch off or on depending on the mood .I sit with fans or supposed fans down the club mostly glory hunters and soon as things dont go their way they dissapear ,we are not like that ,or at least I hope we are not turning out like that.YNWA
      Totally agree!!!! ;)
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      Reply #58: Jun 22, 2008 11:08:54 pm
      AFC Liverpool

      I think its a good idea, but then does that mean fans that cant afford to go the match, due to high prices, be forced out of Liverpool Football Club for good, as prices will get higher every season making it even harder for the real fans to get to a game.
      I struggle myself to get around to all the FA cup, league cup and the Champions League games, dont even get me started on leagye games yet as the years roll buy im gonna be priced out even more. Which means that my only other viable option is AFC Liverpool, which is great, but do i really want to go watch a team that is... well i dont no... that is not Liverpool Football Club. Ill find it very hard to go watch AFC, theres only one team, one set of fans, and thats the Liverpool way, not the AFC way.
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      Reply #59: Jul 13, 2008 11:59:57 pm
      Not sure whats happening with this but I do know that non-league Prescot Cables have given AFC Liverpool permission to play at their home ground Valerie Park.

      AFC Liverpool will start next season in the Vodkat league.

      The club logo is



      The club will play its first ever competitive fixture on Wednesday evening and here are some details of their first ever three games.

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      St Helens Match Ticket

      Wednesday 16th July, 7.45 kick off.

      This match will be ALL TICKET. So a match ticket must be purchased in order to gain entry. Tickets are priced at £5 adults, £3 under 16s.

      It will be played at the home of Ashton Town FC, Edge Green Street, Ashton-in-Makerfield, WN4 8SL.

      Liverpool: Match tickets available from News from Nowhere bookstore, Bold Street, Liverpool, L1 4HY.

      Ashton: Match tickets availabe from Sportsline, 6 Gerard Street, Ashton-in-Makefield, WN4 9AA

      St Helens: Match tickets available every Tuesday night only (6.30pm - 8.30pm) from The Black Bull, Knowsley Road, St Helens.

      Tickets are also available by post from
      John McKiernan
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      35 Roysten Gardens
      St. Helens
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      WA9 1RJ

      Postal requests should detail the numbers of “Adult” and/or “U16s” tickets required and should include a cheque/postal order payable to “St. Helens Town AFC” and include a stamped self addressed envelope.

      St Helens Coach Ticket

      Available at £5 each from News From Nowhere, Bold Street, Liverpool, L1 4HY.

      Coach leaves The Casa, Hope Street, Liverpool, L1 9BQ at 5.30pm. Stops at Showcase Cinema on the East Lancs. Leaves the Showcase at 6pm.

      Nelson FC Match Information

      Saturday 19th July, 3pm kick off

      It will be played at the home of Nelson FC: Victoria Park, Lomeshaye Way, Nelson, BB9.

      Nelson FC and AFC Liverpool will be competing for the Joe Fagan Commemorative Trophy, in honour of the 50th anniversary of Joe’s arrival as a coach at Anfield. Nelson were the first club he ever managed.

      Entry is pay on the gate. £5 Adults, £3 children.

      Nelson FC Coach Ticket

      Available at £6 each from News From Nowhere, Bold Street, Liverpool, L1 4HY.

      Coach leaves The Casa, Hope Street, Liverpool, L1 9BQ at 12 noon.

      Marine Match Info

      Tuesday 22nd July, 7.45 kick off

      Entry is pay on the gate. £5 adults, £2 concessions.

      It will be played at the home of Marine FC: Arriva Stadium, College Road, Crosby.

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