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      Re: Tennis
      Reply #1875: Jul 14, 2019 02:39:32 pm
      Fed looks on fire already..🔥
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      Reply #1876: Jul 14, 2019 03:09:40 pm
      Can't see how Fed wins this one now.
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      Reply #1877: Jul 14, 2019 11:02:58 pm
      Gutted Fed lost.
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      Reply #1881: Aug 24, 2019 03:04:32 pm
      Can Novak Djokovic win his third Grand Slam title of this year?

      My predictions based on a detailed analysis of the draw for 2019 US Open.

      https://medium.com/@indikajayasinghe85/us-open-2019-predictions-can-novak-djokovic-win-his-third-grand-slam-title-of-this-year-f7f0af2e2c35

      Would love to know your thoughts guys?
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      Reply #1882: Sep 10, 2019 09:47:34 pm
      Nadal wins the US Open this year to take him to his 19th grand slam, just 1 behind Federer. Him and Djokovic with 2 slams each. Had it not been for years of injuries, I don’t think it’s any exaggeration to say he’d be approaching the high 20s now.

      Didn’t realise Federer has won so little in the last 10 years.
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      Reply #1883: Sep 11, 2019 12:12:24 am
      Didn’t realise Federer has won so little in the last 10 years.

      I've had this argument countless times. He won most of his GS titles against a comparatively weaker field and been shown up by Nadal and Djokovic when they elevated to the top.

      For them to win 35 GS titles in the era of the toughest period of tennis speaks volumes.

      For that alone, even as a massive Nadal fan, i can't help but think Novak is the best player we've ever seen ahead of Rafa and then Federer. But this era is very, very, very unlikely to be repeated to have the three most winningest players of all time exist at the same time. And that's bloody awesome to watch.
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      Reply #1884: Sep 11, 2019 12:29:21 am
      I've had this argument countless times. He won most of his GS titles against a comparatively weaker field and been shown up by Nadal and Djokovic when they elevated to the top.

      For them to win 35 GS titles in the era of the toughest period of tennis speaks volumes.

      For that alone, even as a massive Nadal fan, i can't help but think Novak is the best player we've ever seen ahead of Rafa and then Federer. But this era is very, very, very unlikely to be repeated to have the three most winningest players of all time exist at the same time. And that's bloody awesome to watch.

      It is very difficult to put one ahead of the other with Nadal and Novak, personally I think they are both ahead of Federer for the reason you've said above. In terms of the separation between Novak and Nadal, IMO Novak will be able to sustain a bit of a longer career, although he's struggled with injuries for a year or so a little while back, it's not like Nadal who will get multiple knee injuries, or ankle or whatever so I think it's inevitable Novak will then move ahead of him on Grand Slams.
      But that said, Nadal seems to be adapting his game and he's looking good, I think he will be around for a while yet so we have more years of them two battling it out.

      But with Nadal, because of his injuries it makes me think it's very much a case of "what if". He's this good with having had a career full of injuries, so would he have been well ahead of Novak had he not been so unlucky with the injuries? It's not beyond possibility.

      Speaks volumes just how good them 3 have been. Murray came the closest to really breaking it up but he couldn't sustain it, even before the injury and even now with the likes of Thiem and Medvedev, although they will force the odd 4 or 5 set match, on the whole, they are getting blown away. These are players who are mid 20's too. It's crazy, I don't think Tennis will ever be dominated like this ever again after them 3 retire.
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      Reply #1885: Sep 11, 2019 11:48:58 am
      It is very difficult to put one ahead of the other with Nadal and Novak, personally I think they are both ahead of Federer for the reason you've said above. In terms of the separation between Novak and Nadal, IMO Novak will be able to sustain a bit of a longer career, although he's struggled with injuries for a year or so a little while back, it's not like Nadal who will get multiple knee injuries, or ankle or whatever so I think it's inevitable Novak will then move ahead of him on Grand Slams.
      But that said, Nadal seems to be adapting his game and he's looking good, I think he will be around for a while yet so we have more years of them two battling it out.

      But with Nadal, because of his injuries it makes me think it's very much a case of "what if". He's this good with having had a career full of injuries, so would he have been well ahead of Novak had he not been so unlucky with the injuries? It's not beyond possibility.

      Speaks volumes just how good them 3 have been. Murray came the closest to really breaking it up but he couldn't sustain it, even before the injury and even now with the likes of Thiem and Medvedev, although they will force the odd 4 or 5 set match, on the whole, they are getting blown away. These are players who are mid 20's too. It's crazy, I don't think Tennis will ever be dominated like this ever again after them 3 retire.

      I think this is a good point, Federer picked up a hell of  a lot of titles in the time just before Novak and Rafa emerged, when there was a kind of vacuum after Sampras/Agassi/Roddick etc had hung up their racquets. That doesn't diminish how good Federer was because he might well have been able to beat Novak and Rafa if they had been at the top of their games, that is how good Roger was at his very best, but t is quite telling that the number of titles has become a trickle in later years.

      Having said all that it is very hard to separate those three players, they are all superb champions and I agree we will probably not see the like again, which is quite sad.
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      Reply #1886: Sep 11, 2019 05:52:38 pm
      In my opinion, a peak Nadal is ahead of peak Federer, but I think it is also a major style contrast that plays more into Nadal’s favour with that.

      Novak is another story, I think he gets a tough shake sometimes because Nadal and Federer were there first, but his achievements are incredible and he is the favorite in any match up these days. His mental resilience and ability to get across the line even when it looks doubtful surpasses even a peak Nadal imo.

      However, if you take injuries out of the equation, Nadal would be far far ahead. His domination of Rolland Garros will never be replicated at any other slam and it really is something spectacular, as he has dominated that from the start right through the peak years of Federer and Novak and continues to do so.
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      Reply #1887: Sep 12, 2019 08:11:18 am
      In my opinion, a peak Nadal is ahead of peak Federer, but I think it is also a major style contrast that plays more into Nadal’s favour with that.

      Novak is another story, I think he gets a tough shake sometimes because Nadal and Federer were there first, but his achievements are incredible and he is the favorite in any match up these days. His mental resilience and ability to get across the line even when it looks doubtful surpasses even a peak Nadal imo.

      However, if you take injuries out of the equation, Nadal would be far far ahead. His domination of Rolland Garros will never be replicated at any other slam and it really is something spectacular, as he has dominated that from the start right through the peak years of Federer and Novak and continues to do so.

      I'm not sure how you can say that without injuries Nadal would be far far ahead, I think he's only missed 2 French open's and the other slams are always contested by Roger and Novak.
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      Reply #1888: Sep 12, 2019 04:42:36 pm
      I'm not sure how you can say that without injuries Nadal would be far far ahead, I think he's only missed 2 French open's and the other slams are always contested by Roger and Novak.

      He’s suffered with injuries at Wimbledon a lot, if I remember rightly he wasn’t able to defend one of his titles there due to injury, 09 I think...then won it back in 2010 before again making the final the following year. He was making the final year after year up until the injuries took hold there, he turned the tide onto Federer and I remember him completely ripping Andy Murray apart there. There was no way the other slams were contested by just Novak and Federer, it’s because of the injuries Nadal couldn’t keep hold of the grip he looked to be getting on Wimbledon. 6 Wimbledon finals in about 8 years certainly isn’t showing a dominance from the other two.
      The fact Federer has won barely anything in the last 10 years also shows that the other slams other than the French aren’t dominated by him and Novak.

      Think he’s missed an Aussie open and US open or at least retired from them with injuries too.
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