Liverpool formation this year?

The formation is an irrelevancy. It changes from game to game. The key is WHAT PLAYERS make up the formation and WHO plays WHERE.

Babel on the left? FORGET IT.

Babel on the right? FORGET IT.

Crouch left at home in Merseyside? FORGET IT.

Voronin anywhere within 20 miles of the team bus?? FORGET IT.

Formation: Unimportant.

Who plays: Important.

Who Plays Where: Massive.

What about taking a look at the team selection in some of our big games this year?

This one was the lineup away against Marseille

Pepe Reina 
John Arne Riise 
Jamie Carragher 
Sami Hyypia 
Alvaro Arbeloa 
Harry Kewell 
Steven Gerrard (c) 
Javier Mascherano 
Yossi Benayoun 
Dirk Kuyt 
Fernando Torres 

Whats the big difference between this one and the selection agaist Boro? Kuyt isnt much better than Voronin at the moment. Ok, Kewell for Riise, but do you think that would have made us win against boro?

Take a look at this

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/match/season/

and check the linups agaist Portsmouth, Bolton, Porto, Besiktas ect. some of our big wins. The difference in lineup isnt very big.
We all saw Voronin put in decent performances in the beginning of the season, Kuyt did it last season. I think we have seen all the players play good games. Neither the formation nor the team selection is the problem for me. For me the problem is that they are underperforming big time. And they show lack of passion, belief, spirit, motivation, confidence ect. An average performance from the team agaist Boro would have seen us win, but with the exception of few, everybody played far under average. Thats were the dog is buried IMO.

Torres must always play with either Kuyt or Crouch. Never Voronin.

Torres must always play with either Kuyt or Crouch. Never Voronin.

Torres can't play every single game - we need to buy another quality forward.

Right now I wouldn't mind if Rafa off-loaded Voro or Kuyt... but what would we get for Voro?

Voro's national coach, who knows him better than us... knew a thing our two didn't he?

Torres can't play every single game - we need to buy another quality forward.

Right now I wouldn't mind if Rafa off-loaded Voro or Kuyt... but what would we get for Voro?

Voro's national coach, who knows him better than us... knew a thing our two didn't he?

I never said Torres should start every game, I said Torres should never start with Vorro.

Torres/Kuyt
Torres/Crouch
Crouch/Kuyt
Vorro/Crouch
Vorro/Kuyt

There is 3 scenarios for you in which Torres doesn't start.

Torres can't play every single game - we need to buy another quality forward.

Right now I wouldn't mind if Rafa off-loaded Voro or Kuyt... but what would we get for Voro?

Voro's national coach, who knows him better than us... knew a thing our two didn't he?

Ya by the way you are right. we need another forward. Huntellaar or Villa. Its good to see how the club is divided into Dutch, English and Spanish, Scandinavian, Argentinian and Brazilian blocks. It gives us the Cosmo look. Maybe thats why we are so good in Europe!!

Ya by the way you are right. we need another forward. Huntellaar or Villa. Its good to see how the club is divided into Dutch, English and Spanish, Scandinavian, Argentinian and Brazilian blocks. It gives us the Cosmo look. Maybe thats why we are so good in Europe!!

...and Skrtel in a Baltic block.

I really think that you need to bring in boys younger for them to gel from such differin backgrounds...

That's why our future, in all honesty, lies in the Youth team that Rafa and Ablett are assembling and running respectively... which looks genuine quality.

Really? Is Slovakia on the Baltic Sea? Eastern Europe, me thinks!! Not that it matters. Hyppia is more Baltic than anone, he is a FInn.

Yes. what Ablett and Rafa have going is puire class.

Cheers.

Troffy.

Really? Is Slovakia on the Baltic Sea? Eastern Europe, me thinks!! Not that it matters. Hyppia is more Baltic than anone, he is a FInn.

Yes. what Ablett and Rafa have going is puire class.

Cheers.

Troffy.

Quite right mate... Baltic regions not my speciality subject - knocking Mr Parry more my mastermind specialist subject.

Still no trying Babel at the striker position next to Torres.
I know a lot of you are saying that his style is way to close to Torres, but with kuyt/voronin/crouch not working out, why not?

Just give him a go. If he is as lousy as voronin, allright, I'll eat my hat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULTksfsqpWA

                       Reina

Finnan   Carragher   Hyypia   Arbeloa

     Benayoun  Gerrard   Kewell

      Kuyt      Torres      Babel

OR

Same defence with

                Mascherano

    Benayoun   Gerrard   Kewell

            Torres      Babel

i know this is a bit risky but i would want to see how we go with 3 defenders like this

                                             Reina
 
          Arbeloa/Finnan/Skrtel    Carragher     Agger
 
                                         Mascherano

                         ?                 Alonso           Babel

                                          Gerrard
   
                                  Torres        Crouch

Just leaves the flanks a little weak when we defend so maybe aurelio would be good on the left because he has both offensive and defensive tendencies and on the odd occasion finnan could play wide right, we have seen him go forward and we all know he is a brilliant defender. But i still no its risky but we couldn't really do any worse at this point in time with 4 draws on the trot

---------------------------Reina---------------------------
Finnan-------Carra-----Agger--------Arbeloa-------

Pennant--------Mascherano-------Kewell----------

---------------------Gerrard------------------------------

---------------Torres-----Babel-------------------------

Surely this is a team that can crush teams. even with small changes like the wingers this team would do wonders. babel and torres would work, think about what a revelation torres has been for us, and what trouble defences most? his pace, which is something babel also has in abundance. and babels main problem is coming infield from the wing and taking on players then losing the ball, with him upfront he would already be in position to get an assist or take on 1/2 defender(s) and score. He always gets past atleast a couple of players before he loses the ball around the area and playing upfront thats all the players he will need to take on to pass to torres/ gerrard etc or to get space for a shot. He has an incredible amount of skill of which we have only seen a small amount and he needs to be able to show his potential upfront.

i agree lil cisse. That formation looks very promising. Other teams would be running scared if they saw that squad an formation.

They have seen that formation and it only works if one man is firing and thats SG. If he isnt then that formation is weak. Our attack lay solely with SG in that formation.

its a basic 4-4-2 i just set it out wrong. and no not atall thats what the wingers are for .

A lot of talk about not scoring enough goals but we are blessed with some of the best midfielders in the country so why cant we give our strikers the service

I think that our midfield is an area thats letting us down and surely it has to be the balance

Masherano/Alonso/Gerrard are all superb

Levia/Kewell/Babel/Riise are all good in fits and starts

Benayoun is currently the form player arguably

So the question is who plays where ?

Me personally i would play Benayoun on the right  Gerrard and Levia centrally Kewell on the left Masherano in front of the defence
leaving Torres or Crouch as the lone man up front

 
                                             Reina

                      Finnan    Carragher    Skirtel       Riise

                                       Masherano

               Benayoun       Gerrard        Levia      Kewell

                                           Torres

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

I would feel insulted to see Voro wear an LFC shirt again after Saturday's performance - which was an embarrasment to the shirt, to the team, to the club and to himself.

Voro get your head (and pony-tail) together and get out!

Furthermore... where are the SG in the middle merchants now... ALL our biggest results have been with SG playing right/libero...

Formation 2nd half of season

4-4-2

My first XI would be:

             Pepe

Alvaro Carra Agger Aurelio

StevieG Xabi Masch Babel

        Torres Crouchy

Subs: Charly, Yossi, Lucas, Zhar, Skrtel

Its a good line up but I dont agree with you having gerrard on the right, he is much better in the centre

I agree with donrafael fully, the perfect team/system to get the best out of every player for LFC. Gerrard as 1 of 2 CMs is where its all gone wrong this season.

No, where it has gone wrong has been mass rotation not allowing the players to settle and form a partnership all over the pitch... thats where its gone wrong!

Just remember we've rotated at a higher rate this season than any other season.. its what you get when you've got squad standard players in the team - Pennant, Benayoun, Crouch, Kuyt etc.

Doesn't matter though, I'm confident Bentiez is learning from this league and he'll buy more quality than quantity in the up and comming seasons. He's made a good start with Torres, now carry that on by buying such players as Ricardo Quaresma, David Silva, Matias Fernandez.. and then we may have a team to challenge!

I would like to see us carry on with the momentum and confidence from the Chelsea game.

Leave the back four as it is

Finnan           Carra       Skrtel           Riise


Pennant       Alonso              Masch      Babel

               Gerrard
                             
                           Torres

I think we have solid back cover and enough fire power in gerrad babel pennant and Torres.

I like that Dadorious. I wanna see Gerrard played in a position where he can focus his energy solely on attacking. Alonso and Masch are more than capable of supplying the passes and offering defensive cover respectively.

I agree with Rafa, choosing to use certain players for certain games, but i'm now leaning towards use the best players wheever their available
Reinna Carragher Mascereno Gerrard Babel Benayoun Torres all worth auomatic place now Leive Alonso Crouch close

                           Reina

Arbeloa     Carragher     Skrtel     Agger

Gerrard    Alonso     Mascherano   Babel

                Benayoun
                         Torres

Croucinho i could see how that would work too, although personally given Gerrard's shooting and passing abilities i would swap him with Benayoun. I like the fact that Agger started off as a left back and i think he would do a good job although maybe his pace would be a bit of a worry if he was having to mark flying wingman. IMO