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      Liverpool formation this year?

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      arvindram
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #483: Sep 01, 2011 11:19:00 pm
                       Reina
      Johnson  Carra   Agger  Enrique

                   Lucas      Adam
                
      Suarez         Gerrard           Downing
                          
       
                           Caroll
      lester76
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #484: Sep 01, 2011 11:40:01 pm
      Just by going by 442 formation we have:

      Reina

      Johnson
      Carra
      Agger
      Enrique

      Lucas
      Adam
      Gerrard
      Downing

      Suarez
      Carroll

      OR for a 2nd Team

      Doni

      Kelly
      Coates
      Skrtel
      Aurelio

      Spearing
      Henderson
      Maxi
      Shelvey

      Bellamy
      Kuyt


      And that still leaves:

      Flanno, Robinson, Wilson, Suso, Sterling and Wisdom.

      Every position has a great back up and also has many options to evolve to 3-5-2, 4-3-3, 4-1-3-2 or 4-2-3-1.

      All we are lacking is that other versatile out and out winger.
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      Reply #485: Sep 02, 2011 12:10:29 am
      4-2-3-1. We're lacking nothing!
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #486: Sep 02, 2011 12:11:49 am
      4-2-3-1. We're lacking nothing!

      Who would you play in the 2?
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #487: Sep 02, 2011 12:13:18 am
      Lucas/Spearing with Adam/Gerrard
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #488: Sep 02, 2011 12:42:16 am
      Lucas/Spearing with Adam/Gerrard

      We are lacking a proper alternative to Downing on the other flank if we were to play 2 wingers....know we haven't in years even when we had a proper squad.
      Kenny seems to like having one winger that can switch flanks and one wide midfielder who can suck in and make a 3 in the middle when needed...hence Houghton.

      Bellers and suarez love to cut in but one other real wide player as an option, alternative or to compliment Downing would be great.

      Still utterly delighted by DC and KD's work.
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      Reply #489: Sep 02, 2011 12:44:14 am
      We are lacking a proper alternative to Downing on the other flank if we were to play 2 wingers....know we haven't in years even when we had a proper squad.
      Kenny seems to like having one winger that can switch flanks and one wide midfielder who can suck in and make a 3 in the middle when needed...hence Houghton.

      Bellers and suarez love to cut in but one other real wide player as an option, alternative or to compliment Downing would be great.

      Still utterly delighted by DC and KD's work.

      Think playing Downing on the right would solve that, 2 wingers who can cut in are just as dangerous, they can still hug the touchlines creating width and cut in when needed, personally i would have Downing on the right and Maxi on the left.
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #490: Sep 02, 2011 01:04:17 am
      I think we will stick to 4231, despite sky and motd getting it wrong.

      Don't forget that 4231 is a very fliud formation, and easily morphs into other formations depending on what is happening on the pitch.

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      Reply #491: Sep 02, 2011 01:47:41 am
      Exactly. Call it an asymetric 4-2-3-1 if you want. Something moving to a 4-1-2-3. Leave Lucas as the holding player and have two midfielders alternate between attack and defense. Rotating attacking 3 behind Carroll or keep 2 deep midfielders and have an evolving front four that goes from defense to attack throughout phases of the game
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #492: Sep 02, 2011 02:24:00 am
      4-2-3-1

      Reina, Kelly/Johnson, Skrtel/Carra, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Suarez, Downing, Carroll/Kuyt.
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      Reply #493: Sep 02, 2011 05:03:42 pm
      IMO we're playing a 4-3-3 formation, Hendo's playing in the centre

                     Reina

      Kelly     Carra      Agger      Enrique

                         Lucas

                   Hendo     Adam
       
       Kuyt/Suarez   Suarez/Carroll    Downing
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      Reply #494: Sep 02, 2011 05:53:37 pm
      It's a 4-2-3-1. 3 interchanging. Becomes a 4-4-2 in defense. I like the idea of 3 at the back in some games as well. We may very well see it against Stoke again.               
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      Reply #495: Sep 03, 2011 12:17:28 am
      It's a 4-2-3-1. 3 interchanging. Becomes a 4-4-2 in defense.
      I think we will play like this.
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #496: Sep 03, 2011 03:41:23 am
      Prem:

                                          Reina

      Johnson     Carra/Skrtel          Coates/Agger      Enrique

                                      Lucas  Adam

                       Suarez        Gerrard      Downing/Henderson

                                         Carroll

      Prem weaker teams

                                         Reina

          Johnson/Kelly   Carra       Coates         Enrique/Aurelio

                                    Lucas  Spearing

       Suarez/Henderson/Kuyt    Gerrard    Maxi

                                      Carroll/Kuyt

      League Cup:

                                 Reina/Doni

      Kelly          Carra               Coates        Aurelio

                         Spearing    Adam

      Henderson                             Maxi
                           Kuyt
                                Bellamy

      Think if Coates is to start against stronger Prem sides, he should be alongside Carra to start with

      If Kenny's not thinking about giving him starts against big clubs just yet, Skrtel and Agger will do nicely

      Bellamy can also be brought on as a sub against weaker Prem sides
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #497: Sep 03, 2011 06:12:51 am
      Agger is must for every game(fit) its other cb spot on which we can see some variation .
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #498: Sep 03, 2011 11:49:14 am
      It's a 4-2-3-1. 3 interchanging. Becomes a 4-4-2 in defense. I like the idea of 3 at the back in some games as well. We may very well see it against Stoke again.               

      We've also seen 3-4-3, 3-3-4 & I swear I saw what looked like a 2-3-5 a couple of times in attack as well.  It's fluid 7 dynamic in defence & attack, with the proviso that we look so much better with the ball on the deck.
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #499: Sep 03, 2011 12:42:56 pm
                                                      Reina

                                  Arbeloa    Carra      Agger    Aurelio

                                                Masch   Alonso

                                  Kuyt           Gerrard            Rieira
                           
                                                     Torres

      Nows here,s a blast from the past and its how we set up when we had a very good season and came in 2nd. If we had,nt drawn so many games that season we probably would of won it. So how does this side compare now to what it was then. Quite similar I think but the one we have now has a little more quality player wise to what we had then.

      Reina was and still is ever present in goal.
      Arbeloa was quality getting forward, now we have a little more quality in Johnson and Kelly plus Flanno for the future.
      Carra,s still around but at his age will not be quite the quality he was but we now have good back up in Skrtel and now Coates.
      If we can get a full season out of Agger then thats still the same quality if not better.
      Aurelio was great in this season, probably his best but Enrique can compete and has quality in bucket loads IMO.

      Mash and Alonso dictated the play in this season but at the moment we have Lucas and Adam who are quite similar.

      On the wings we had Kuyt, who had his best season yet and Reira. Although Riera is not the same quality as what we have now in Downing, he did offer an out an out left winger but now we have the same but better quality. We have several players now who can play wide right instead of Kuyt. Hendo, Suarez, Gerrard and Bellemy can now fill this position.

      Gerrard and Torres struck up that fantastic partnership that looked like they could score at will. Where Torres prefered and was best as a lone striker we now have so many options for this position. Carroll, Kuyt, Suarez and Bellemy are all quality that we could call upon. So if you compare what we had then, in this formation, to what we have now if we have the same sort of season we could very well go one better and win it. The thing is now we can play in several formations with this squad compared to Rafa,s strict formation.

                                                     Reina

                                  Arbeloa    Carra      Agger    Aurelio

                                                Masch   Alonso

                                  Kuyt           Gerrard            Rieira
                           
                                                     Torres


                                                     Riena
                     
                            Johnson        Carra         Agger      Enrique
       
                                              Lucas       Adam

                             Suarez              Gerrard             Downing
       
                                                    Carroll
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #500: Sep 03, 2011 07:38:07 pm
                                             Reina

      Kelly         Carragher/Skrtel             Agger            Enrique

      That, IMO, is the best defence we've got. Johnson would have a tough time reclaiming his place back. Flanagan has been impressive to me but he's still young and therefore can be in and out of the side. Wilson and Coates can come in at CB for some games like in the league cup or when it matters. Aurelio deputises Enrique with Jack Robinson, also with time on his side, stepping in when needed.

      Two primary RBs (Flanagan and Johnson), three primary LBs (Enrique, Aurelio, Robinson) and 6 primary CBs (Kelly, Coates, Agger, Skrtel, Wilson and Carragher) is more than enough and this leaves me happy with the defence as Johnson and Flanagan can play either wing or in a back 3, Kelly can play CB and Wilson/Skrtel/Agger can play as LB/RB and LB respectively when urgently needed.

      The front 6 players, IMO, don't matter to me when attacking. Kenny likes to pass and move. Everyone of the six inter change often as we have seen in previous games but obviously, we need standard midfielders and attackers.

      Henderson, Downing, Adam, Lucas, Maxi, Gerrard, Spearing and Shelvey are primarily midfielders and in recent games this season, we've started with four in a 4-4-2 and about 3 or 5 in a 4-5-1(4-3-3) formation.

      Our strongest would probably be a side with Gerrard, Lucas, Adam, Downing and one more for a 4-5-1/4-3-3. For a 4-4-2, Suarez/Kuyt/Bellamy and Carroll take those two spots but of course, Suarez has to be in there.

      As I've said, with the ball, the formation does not matter but when defending .. it should be something like ... (depending who is on the pitch)

                             Lucas/Spearing         Adam/Shevely                                                        Lucas/Spearing          Adam/Shelvey

      Henderson/Kuyt              Gerrard                  Downing/Maxi         or             Gerrard/Henderson/Kuyt                               Downing/Maxi
       
                                       
      ;D, just realised how messy that looks.

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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #501: Sep 05, 2011 02:26:48 pm
      it's a bit of an intrigue in the centre actually, especially when stevie gets back. I prefer

                              baldy

      kelly        carra      agger      enrique

                     lucas       adam

      gerrard          uruguay           downing
                          
                        big geordie


      or...


      kelly        robinson    carra      agger      enrique

                 gerrard     adam/lucas

      hendo           uruguay           downing
                          
                        big geordie

      or...

                              baldy

                 carra      agger      coates

      johnson                                 enrique
                         adam/lucas
           gerrard                    downing
                          
                uruguay     big geordie


      nice to have options isn't it
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #502: Sep 11, 2011 02:29:31 pm
      I really feel KK needs to ditch 4-4-2, the formation is so static compared the 4-3-3/4-2-1-3.

      I feel our players are more suited to the 4-3-3/4-2-1-3.
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #503: Sep 11, 2011 03:06:30 pm
      Want this from here on out.

                                                          Reina

                        Kelly               Skrtel                  Agger            Enrique


                                                     Lucas      Adam

                                  Downing               Gerrard             Bellamy
             
                                                        Suarez


      Have Bellamy starting or Henderson and then swap them for half time.
                                                         
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #504: Sep 12, 2011 09:04:14 pm
      I really feel KK needs to ditch 4-4-2, the formation is so static compared the 4-3-3/4-2-1-3.

      I feel our players are more suited to the 4-3-3/4-2-1-3.

      I don't think we're playing 4-4-2 at all, it only looks that way when we defend.
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      Re: Liverpool formation this year?
      Reply #505: Sep 12, 2011 09:23:41 pm
      kelly        robinson    carra      agger      enrique

                 gerrard     adam/lucas

      hendo           uruguay           downing
                         
                        big geordie
      Are you suggesting that we don't play a goalkeeper? O.O

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