I have had this argument with Man u and Arsenal fans and have told them that they aren’t good for the English game. Both teams have under achieved in Europe, they have simply put all their eggs in one basket sort of thing. These were the teams that started under mine the league cup.
The mentality of both teams is to produce a brand of football to beat mediocre teams, and constantly improve that style of football. Especially, Arsenal they play a brand of football under Arsene Wenger and play it brilliantly, they are too good for at least about 15 teams in the prem when they turn on the style. When they lose to the bottom 16 teams it’s usually at the expense of damaged woodwork, severe decision and poor performances and its hardly ever one of the points but at least two of the reasons. They both play and try to improve this brand of football which is very rigid especially in Arsenal’s case. In Europe it’s a different game altogether, they come face to face against teams with the best defences and coaches that have players to break this transparent type of attacking football that makes easy work of dealing with so many smaller clubs, both teams are transparent especially Arsenal.. Man utd, have in the recent past tried to use a different formation in Europe but the brand for me has been quite similar. Only this season against Barca it was surprising to see them playing so deep something different that eventually took them to their second final in 20 years under Fergy.
The Liverpool of the past have always respected all competitions, we gave it all in Europe, the FA cup, Milk Cup and the League. That meant we would have a tighter league table and a team that was winning on the international stage in Europe.
As for our future, I totally agree with JD the secret will lye in trying to take points from the top teams especially man utd. By hook or crook we have to take at least 4 points from them. We may need to build a successful system of our own the 4231 system maybe a good starting point and used it in most prem games.