Peter Crouch (loads of clubs)

Crouchy for 15 million is fair. England international, big game scorer, brilliant technique and holds it up in the final third with ease. Tell me now that he doesnt warrant 15 million. If you heard that sort of description without any name put to it then you would say 20 million or there abouts.

Crouch is very under rated by many and because of his stature and lack of pace people think he isnt worth the money. Shame.

So to those people saying he is good, a 20 goal per season striker, etc etc, I would ask the question, why doesn't he get played along side Torres up front?

My opinion is that would be a better tactic to score more goals and win more games.

Other clubs are well aware he is not in Rafa's plans, except as a sub, and fill in for non important fixtures. If the 15 million price tag scares people off, then he will be kept on, not be given a proper chance, and next season end up leaving for free when his contract runs out. Instead of getting 12-15 million for a player Rafa really has little time for, he ends up with nothing.
Saying to a player he has to compete with Torres for a place, hardly giving him any game time, then saying to other clubs he is worth 15 million seems to me to be a big contradiction. Either keep him and play him along side Torres, or sell him for 7-8 million, and get your money back.

Asking for 15 clearly means you would be happy with 12.

Id rather see him stay but if we get £15m then we cant complain Crouch needs to be playing week in week out and he wont under Rafa,lets hope the money is well spent on a replacement.

Asking for 15 clearly means you would be happy with 12.

I was going to say that myself, by asking £15mill for crouch other clubs may feel that they are saving money and offer £12mill were i think rafa knows rightly that £10mill is a good price for pete. IMO this is a stroke of genious for rafa and to be honest i would have thought of the same plan

I feel that 15m is a decent valuation not just because of his ability to be a nuisance for defenders and his ability to score goals, but apart from his ability I just feel that any decent club like for example, portsmouth, Newcastle or any other will be getting a player for the long term.  These sort of clubs will sign players but then lose them after a few years if they're successful.  If he had an extra year on his contract I really think we could extract 15m for him added with Parry being in the picture not too confident but should get well over 10m. 

Crouchie still has a luxury apartment down on the South Coast, so he must have known he was never destined to stay at Liverpool on a long term basis.

Good luck to him, he deserves to be playing more regular football, won't do his England chances any good sitting on the bench and only getting 20 minutes every now and then.

To be honest I think he has been treated rather badly at Liverpool, he's never really been given a fair crack of the whip this season, when he has come on, he's done alright and often scored, never had a consistent run in the team.

Shame really.

Good Luck Peter if you decide to move on, just don't score against us eh !!

Agree MsGerrard sorta feel sorry for him

Met him in a club too about a year ago too and hes actually a really good lad and down to earth - didnt mind having  a chat with normal peeps
(actually met james beattie too on the same night - absolute prat who thinks hes jesus incarnate)

I thinks hes worth near that price anyway as seems to pull it out in big games

Good luck with whatever happens anyways

I'm not really crazy about a lone striker upfront. I think we can better strengthen other areas of defence and midfield than getting rid of Crouch and getting another striker, or sticking with a lone striker.

I don't think it is so much that Rafa wants to get rid of Crouch as it is that Crouch feels he "deserves" to start.  Thats not the Rafa way.  Then you add into it the fact that 4-2-3-1 seems to suit the players we have and it is obvious that Crouch's place will be on the bench as a sub or a starter in FA Cup games, Carling Cup matches and some Champions League matches.  If he doesn't want to take a less prominent role in a big club like LFC then he is going to have to take a more prominent role on a lesser club.  Good luck to him. 

Rafa has left the ball in his court and does think he is a good player. However today to be completely ommited from the squad does seem to shows that Peter Crouch wants more games and is prepared to leave to do that. Im very disappointed that he is leaving and feel with his height and his excellent goal per game ratio he should stay and could prehaps have provided a productive relationshipwith Torres. Howver nine league starts is very disappointing especially with him being leading goal scorer last season.
 Yet Rafa does not liked to be messed around and is preapared to be ruthless. I'll be upset when he leaves but Rafa im sure will spend the 15 million pounds well.

How can people say that Crouch isn't worth 15mill or maybe 14mill when the likes of Bent and other strikers are going at the same price. Its crazy. Crouch is a top class striker.

How can people say that Crouch isn't worth 15mill or maybe 14mill when the likes of Bent and other strikers are going at the same price. Its crazy. Crouch is a top class striker.

Don't delude yourself, a top class striker is someone like Villa, Torres or Eto'o. Peter Crouch is a good striker, not top class.

Don't delude yourself, a top class striker is someone like Villa, Torres or Eto'o. Peter Crouch is a good striker, not top class.

I totally agree there mate, I would put the likes of Villa, Torres, Henry in that catagory, but for Crouch he is a very good striker, but not top class.

I totally agree there mate, I would put the likes of Villa, Torres, Henry in that catagory, but for Crouch he is a very good striker, but not top class.

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I just hate the way some of our players can be so overrated by our own fans. There is a reason why we finished 4th and won nothing, now we need to wake up and realise who is actually good enough for us and who isn't, Crouch isn't and that's a good start!

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I just hate the way some of our players can be so overrated by our own fans. There is a reason why we finished 4th and won nothing, now we need to wake up and realise who is actually good enough for us and who isn't, Crouch isn't and that's a good start!

Well I think you're right on one thing by saying a lot of fans overrate our players.  But I wouldn't say Crouch isn't good enough.  I think he's good enough to come off the bench! 

Think about it, defenders absolutely hate marking players like Crouch.  He's a handful & he's capeable of scoring.

It's always good to have different players who have different styles of play.  Crouch has a rare style.  The only striker who is probably the same, but is a better version of Crouch has to be Adebeyor.

Obviously I wouldn't say no if £15 Million came in, but if not I'd be very happy to keep Crouch.  But not as a definite starter every game (which he isn't any way). 

But I bet the sound of David Villa & Torres running around and tiring out defenders (with a few goals behind them both) & then Crouch to come on & defenders will just knacker away! 

Crouch is different, but when I see United brining someone like Tevez off the bench does often make me think that that's the level you need to be at to seriously challenge for the league.

Same with Barca bringing a certain Henry off the bench...

Crouch is different, but when I see United brining someone like Tevez off the bench does often make me think that that's the level you need to be at to seriously challenge for the league.

Same with Barca bringing a certain Henry off the bench...

Ah, onto.

But I think Rafa is doing a good job of building a team.  Don't forget Alex Ferguson nearly got the sack on the final day of the season because Utd were on the brink of being relegated!!!

It still took Ferguson a few good years to actually win the League.  Rafa needs more patience.  I don't think we'll win the League next season, but we will go close. 

That depending on who he signs & if he signs for quality or quantity.  I think he's going to sign a bit of both.  We need to sort out or wing backs, and wingers first!  Which the money Crouch can attract would help towards that.

We could do with four new players to come into the first team if we want to 'win' the title. To challenge maybe not but still we'd need a bit more quality.

LB
RB
LW
RW

LB - Gabriel Heinze
RB -
LW - Silva
RW - Quaresma

Hmm...

LB - Gabriel Heinze
RB -
LW - Silva
RW - Quaresma

Hmm...

I got bad feeling that Real Madrid are going to sign Quaresma.
Silva would be perfect and Heinze can do the defensive job we need there. Right back we are not too bad but do need to strenghten.

Don't delude yourself, a top class striker is someone like Villa, Torres or Eto'o. Peter Crouch is a good striker, not top class.

Yeah and the players you have mentioned are 25 million plus players so do as we have done and make fair comparisons

Yeah and the players you have mentioned are 25 million plus players so do as we have done and make fair comparisons

That is a fair comparision, they are both strikers no? Doesn't matter if they are valued at £25m or so, the point I made was Crouch is not a top class striker and players like David Villa and Samuel Eto'o are who probably would cost £25m. You won't win the league without players of this quality, Crouch will not win us the league...