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      Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)

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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United)
      Reply #475: Sep 06, 2011 04:52:37 pm
      I think, you're too hard on Michael. And probably rightfully.
      But, you DON'T know (most of you), what really happen and LEFT in the first place (to Real Madrid). In Carra's book, there is a part about that insident and you can quite easily found, that Michael had STRONG problem with Rafa Benitez from the very first training in Mellwood!!! Also, as the rumors saying, in his way to Manchester, Michael called Rafa and asked him if he likes to turn right and head to Liverpool - and Rafa said nothing...
      Also, you're supporters, "fans" (from "fanatic"!) and you're see the things from the "fans' point of view" - you're forgeting that these are PROFESSIONAL players, they're doing that for their salary, as job. Any professional, except if he found and started a work by himself (like a store-keeper), he's not "that much attached" to a job and if he thinks it's best for his future, he's changing firms/companies etc.

      Also..., no matter what you think, M.Owen didn't "just a paragraph at a push" or a "page" - but a large chapter.

      The reason that is SO PAINFULL (we had many great players that left us before, like Rushie or Keegan), is that Michael signed to our WORST RIVALS, the team we hate so much, the ManU sc*ms. That's all about.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United)
      Reply #476: Sep 06, 2011 04:55:49 pm
      I'm saying these to all the "Reds", that very easily excusing and cursing M.Owen. He was/is one of the greatest players in our history - and that's a fact.

      You're wrong, simply put some of the greatest footballers in our history are Dalglish, Gerrard, Barnes and others from years gone by.

      Owen isn't even the club's greatest striker, that accolade still belongs to the greatest of them all Ian Rush, followed by those like Fowler, Dalglish, Keegan, St John and Hunt.

      Owen is in the same boat as the other rat FT, both can go and f**k themselves.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United)
      Reply #477: Sep 06, 2011 08:22:51 pm
      You're wrong, simply put some of the greatest footballers in our history are Dalglish, Gerrard, Barnes and others from years gone by.

      Owen isn't even the club's greatest striker, that accolade still belongs to the greatest of them all Ian Rush, followed by those like Fowler, Dalglish, Keegan, St John and Hunt.

      Owen is in the same boat as the other rat FT, both can go and f**k themselves.
      Very well said HR and so true.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #478: Mar 03, 2013 07:55:55 pm
      Now on Family Fortunes!

      How the mighty have fallen.

      Cringe worthy.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #479: Mar 03, 2013 08:26:23 pm
      It's for charity. At least he can still do some good.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #480: Mar 03, 2013 09:33:56 pm
      It's for charity. At least he can still do some good.

      Made a bit of a tit of himself earlier on Twitter though!

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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #481: Mar 08, 2013 08:05:27 am
       If Micky Owen is on pay for play at Stoke he will not of earned much this season,long may it continue.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #482: Dec 17, 2016 08:46:29 am
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #483: Dec 17, 2016 08:54:11 am
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #484: Dec 17, 2016 10:00:11 am
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #485: Dec 26, 2016 12:44:24 pm
      Anichebe is 'pulling off  :tosser:' Jones  :lmao:
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #487: Aug 20, 2017 06:59:26 pm
      Doubt that is true, probably Twitter bollocks. I'm sure he would have put himself in there if it were true.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #488: Aug 25, 2018 11:07:09 pm
      Watch from, 10:28 (or watch the whole lot, it's a good show!) where he talks about injures and leaving us. I swear, he was nearly in tears :o

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8sbobQylWI

      Should we forgive him?!

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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #489: Aug 25, 2018 11:35:31 pm
      Watch from, 10:28 (or watch the whole lot, it's a good show!) where he talks about injures and leaving us. I swear, he was nearly in tears :o

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8sbobQylWI

      Should we forgive him?!



      Wow great interview. Think plenty you lads didn't know about that, I didn't.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #490: Aug 26, 2018 12:00:56 am
      Wow great interview. Think plenty you lads didn't know about that, I didn't.

      Yeah. Only thing I knew about was him wanting to return after his stint at Real, but Newcastle offered more. Had no idea about the rest!

      Also, it was interesting to hear his take on his injuries and how his family had the same problems in which he felt it was passed on to him. Sturridge said the same thing too.

      I wonder if the big clubs look into medical history of family members before signing a player? If they don't, maybe it's about time they do.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #491: Aug 26, 2018 12:30:39 am
      Watch from, 10:28 (or watch the whole lot, it's a good show!) where he talks about injures and leaving us. I swear, he was nearly in tears :o

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8sbobQylWI

      Should we forgive him?!



      That's a great segment. Thanks for sharing that Purple. Impressed that he had the guts to say it - to be honest I always thought that he was never too bothered by it all but you can see there that it clearly did.

      I've never had an issue with Michael but that's easy for me to say that because he was my first footballing idol growing up. It kind of harks back to a nostalgic and genuine sense of gratefulness towards him because it was players like him and Stevie who were the first generation of stars that I became acquainted with and with Owen he was my favourite. Not being from Liverpool and coming from a family with no interest in sport let alone football, Michael was with a couple of others, my link to Liverpool and for that I will always be grateful.

      I've said it before on here that I've never held it against him when he went to the Mancs. For me Torres going to Chelsea was a hundred times worse because he wasn't, like Michael, taking a detour via a couple of clubs and some half a decade on from leaving us. He went straight. One way. Direct. And at a time when we all thought that he was still capable of playing to his peak. Yet the thing people have to realise as well is that, like Michael said in that interview, he was no longer at the top of his game. He was severely limited in his playing ability and coming off the back of a relegation with Newcastle was more or less looking for anything credible.

      Also, let's just remember the most important thing -  Michael won us trophies. Sometimes pretty much single handed. He was sensational, one of if not the most naturally gifted strikers/finishers British football has ever seen. And his mentality was superb. Turning up at a World Cup aged 18 and doing something as extraordinary as he did against Argentina could only have been the work of one of the most ice cool minds in the sport. And he showed it with us time and time again, no better displayed than when we stole the FA Cup from under Arsenal's noses right at the death back in 2001.  I was gutted when he left us in 2004 and for a paltry £8m! At the start of an exciting new era with Rafa as well - 'how could he?!' I thought! But that was that I suppose.

      A couple of amazing striking talents (Torres and Suarez) have passed through the gates of Anfield since Owen's day and yet the best that both those strikers had to show for their efforts was a solitary League Cup medal that remains the property of Suarez. For all that Michael did on the pitch, helping us to win a number of trophies, it's nothing to be sniffed at. There's no doubt in my mind that he remains one of the 10 most influential and important players that this club has had in the last 20 years and to deny him his place in that list would just be petty.

      edit: Now going to get all melancholy and watch youtube compilations of his goals for us and remember being 11 years old again no doubt!
      « Last Edit: Aug 26, 2018 01:19:47 am by Frankly, Mr Shankly »
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #492: Aug 26, 2018 12:55:29 am


      edit: Now going to get all melancholy and watch youtube compilations of his goals for us and remember being 11 years old again no doubt!

      I was sat in a pub with a couple of mates watching the Newcastle game where Owen scored a hat trick (looked it up, was 98/99) and one mate said "he's overrated cos of that goal he scored at the world cup, he hardly does anything".
      So I just kind of laughed, and told him to watch Owen play.
      3 goals later, he said "that 3rd goal was a thing of beauty. Fair play, he's a good un"

      He wasn't wrong about the 3rd, it was a wonderful goal, and he did a lot of that.

      So, I looked up his record to remind myself, and he had around 158 in 297 games I think, which is exceptional.

      I don't like getting into slagging ex-players.
      I may get unhappy about how they left, but generally I just kind of lose interest in them.

      It was a very good interview, and I found myself really feeling for the guy, because at times you could hear his voice start to crack, as he got a bit emotional.

      He's still a crap commentator though.
      The monotone man, "When I played for Man United"  ;)
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #493: Aug 26, 2018 03:13:04 am
      That's a great segment. Thanks for sharing that Purple. Impressed that he had the guts to say it - to be honest I always thought that he was never too bothered by it all but you can see there that it clearly did.

      I've never had an issue with Michael but that's easy for me to say that because he was my first footballing idol growing up. It kind of harks back to a nostalgic and genuine sense of gratefulness towards him because it was players like him and Stevie who were the first generation of stars that I became acquainted with and with Owen he was my favourite. Not being from Liverpool and coming from a family with no interest in sport let alone football, Michael was with a couple of others, my link to Liverpool and for that I will always be grateful.

      I've said it before on here that I've never held it against him when he went to the Mancs. For me Torres going to Chelsea was a hundred times worse because he wasn't, like Michael, taking a detour via a couple of clubs and some half a decade on from leaving us. He went straight. One way. Direct. And at a time when we all thought that he was still capable of playing to his peak. Yet the thing people have to realise as well is that, like Michael said in that interview, he was no longer at the top of his game. He was severely limited in his playing ability and coming off the back of a relegation with Newcastle was more or less looking for anything credible.

      Also, let's just remember the most important thing -  Michael won us trophies. Sometimes pretty much single handed. He was sensational, one of if not the most naturally gifted strikers/finishers British football has ever seen. And his mentality was superb. Turning up at a World Cup aged 18 and doing something as extraordinary as he did against Argentina could only have been the work of one of the most ice cool minds in the sport. And he showed it with us time and time again, no better displayed than when we stole the FA Cup from under Arsenal's noses right at the death back in 2001.  I was gutted when he left us in 2004 and for a paltry £8m! At the start of an exciting new era with Rafa as well - 'how could he?!' I thought! But that was that I suppose.

      A couple of amazing striking talents (Torres and Suarez) have passed through the gates of Anfield since Owen's day and yet the best that both those strikers had to show for their efforts was a solitary League Cup medal that remains the property of Suarez. For all that Michael did on the pitch, helping us to win a number of trophies, it's nothing to be sniffed at. There's no doubt in my mind that he remains one of the 10 most influential and important players that this club has had in the last 20 years and to deny him his place in that list would just be petty.

      edit: Now going to get all melancholy and watch youtube compilations of his goals for us and remember being 11 years old again no doubt!

      Looks like he was a true red after all frankly. I've seen/heard/read plenty knock him for not coming back to Liverpool. Well if your you believe his interview (( I do )) he begged to get back to his roots. Tottaly out of his hands so should now be still classed as one of your all time greats. He would be if I was a fan but then I've always been a soft c**t. No comment from you Aussie red on my last sentence  :f_whistle:
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #494: Aug 26, 2018 04:40:40 am
      All well and good what he’s said, but people are forgetting he was dragging out the contract situation for well over a season, always seemed hesitant about his future in the last couple of seasons and thought he could go on to better things, was angling for the Madrid move. If he loved the club that much he’d have stayed in the first place.
      He could have turned Newcastle down too and given it until the winter window to try and force a move back to us. Sooner or later Madrid would have sold him back to us for the 10mill.
      IMO.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #495: Aug 26, 2018 10:02:03 am


      He's still a crap commentator though.
      The monotone man, "When I played for Man United"  ;)

      That Steve McManaman even worse mate, I mute the button when he comes on  :f_steam:
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #496: Aug 26, 2018 12:51:16 pm
      All well and good what he’s said, but people are forgetting he was dragging out the contract situation for well over a season, always seemed hesitant about his future in the last couple of seasons and thought he could go on to better things, was angling for the Madrid move. If he loved the club that much he’d have stayed in the first place.
      He could have turned Newcastle down too and given it until the winter window to try and force a move back to us. Sooner or later Madrid would have sold him back to us for the 10mill.
      IMO.

      Yeah, I can see that perspective as well but thinking about this a bit more sometimes we overplay the 'red through and through' motif at times. As much as we as supporters see football as a team sport where loyalty is everything, the individual players will always see it differently. There will always be that 'looking after number 1' aspect with football players. I mean, in another world, Gerrard would have left us for Chelsea back in 2005 but we were able to sway his mind with a proper big contract extension. The thought of Gerrard in that all blue kit continues to send shivers down all of our spines but even our greatest player ever showed he was susceptible to personal motivations in seeking greater riches which circumvented considerations/loyalty of his boyhood club.
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #497: Aug 26, 2018 01:55:32 pm
      He didn't need to leave , He didn't need to go to Newcastle and he certainly didn't have to go to UTD. Owen loves Owen nobody else matters so he made his bed he can lye in it I have no time for him .
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #498: Aug 26, 2018 02:00:33 pm
      He didn't need to leave , He didn't need to go to Newcastle and he certainly didn't have to go to UTD. Owen loves Owen nobody else matters so he made his bed he can lye in it I have no time for him .


      You listened to the interview?
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      Re: Michael Owen (Manchester United > Stoke City)
      Reply #499: Aug 26, 2018 02:21:33 pm
      Funny how Suarez still gets a free pass, when he did much worse things than Owen.

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