That's the thing though, Suarez does indeed get a free pass from some on here, even to the point of making excuses for his behaviour.
I don't make excuses for his behaviour, but unless you're an angel then no one has a right to say he's a horrible human being for outrageous things that happen on the field without understanding context - especially when off the field the fella is generally pretty sound from all reports. It's not excusing the behaviour, it's understanding it in the context of his life story and why it has taken him a long time and a hell of a lot of work to try and temper it.
People can dress it up however they want, but it doesn't alter the fact that Suarez acted like a proper c**t in the off season for 2 years.
And Owen did nothing wrong whatsoever? This is my point. If you're saying Suarez acted a proper c**t, then at least admit Owen wasn't golden either. You're banging on about double standards while using them right now.
I'd also say, again, that Owen did far more for this club than Suarez did, and yet people get all dewy eyed, and actually want the c**t back so that he can use us again?
We see it every transfer window, people wanting "a cheeky bid" or "tell Barca we want Suarez for him" and all the rest of the sh*te.
Owen did a f**king shitload. But so did Suarez. Maybe it doesn't show in cups, but he was bought right at a time when we'd just fu**ed off disastrous owners, fu**ed off a disastrous manager, and had Kenny come in and go on a spending spree for fellas like Adam, Downing, and Henderson (while turning out a good buy as a reliable club man, he didn't start well). Suarez was by far the best player here, unlike now where there can be genuine arguments made for multiple fellas. Again, he did all he could to drag this team to the brink of a title, equalling the scoring record only surpassed by our Mo, and not even playing the first month or so of the season. He used us? We used the hell out of the little c**t as well. His contribution kept us relevant at a time we often teetered on being completely out of the major picture. As an overseas fan from Aussie that lived in the US at the time, him and Gerrard were the only two people could really pin to Liverpool in casual pub talk.
Owen didn't come in to a Liverpool team that had just been in massive financial troubles, the worst manager to ever manage, a team that had found themselves in the relegation zone for a time with a manager that only knows relegation and mid table battles. His road to go on and win things with Liverpool was a little shorter from his beginnings rather than Suarez.
With Owen, the club weren't prepared to pay an extra few million to get him even though he wanted to come back, so in all likelihood they knew his body was fu**ed and thought "no chance".
That's 2 young lads we fu**ed up around the same time by overplaying them.
So considering we fu**ed him up, and then didn't want to pay a few extra quid to get him back, what f**king right has anyone to dictate which club he should have gone to, and bear in mind it's not like he went straight there, and actually said he wanted to come back here, but we fu**ed him off again.
An extra few million at the time was massive dollars, why the f**k would we if his body was fu**ed? While an argument can be made for how much his body went through at the time with minutes played, blaming the club for playing a player clearly skilled enough to play is somewhat curious. Plenty of other young players have come through many clubs over the years and not gone through the same injury troubles - some are simply unlucky in having that kind of body, he says as much. I myself, due to some hyper flexible joints, am much more susceptible to ankle injuries and the like (have blown out my ankle and had reconstructions before). While modern medicine always helps, it's only as good as it can be at the time. It's unfortunate, but I can't imagine he would have done it any different. He wanted to play, and he was good enough to do so as well.
We don't have any f**king right, of course. You are quite right. Hence why he went to United and didn't adhere to what us fans were saying. But we have a right to be hurt by it, as we do truly hold them as a bitter hated rival, especially under the manager he played under at the time. I've often heard reports that no matter what happened, Torres would NEVER have gone to Real. He was boyhood Atletico player, and understood the rivalry. Just as we thought Owen, as a boyhood Liverpool player, would have understood.
All well and good for him to want to come back when it suits him, but he held us ransom and fu**ed off to Madrid when he thought that would help his career as well. You talk about Suarez "using us" - Owen wanted game time. Sure his preference was us, but he was using whatever situation would help him get to the World Cup again.
Don't bang on about double standards when the same argument can be applied, in a different manner. I actually agree with you that Owen doesn't need to be vilified so much. I just don't agree that Suarez and Owen are miles apart, one a c**t, the other not. Either they're both absolute sh*t cu*ts, or they're both blokes that gave us some good times - one of them just pissed us off a bit more for a while playing for those cu*ts in Manchester.