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      Peter Crouch (Striker)

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      The Fallen Soldier
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      Re: Peter Crouch (Striker)
      Reply #30: Feb 03, 2007 03:47:07 pm
      Hes big hes red his feet stick out the bed. What more do you want...
      Not even superstars are that consistant, I like Crouchy he gives us an option no other side in the Premiership has, he is our top scorer so far this season and most of the games he has played in he has made valuable contribution. Personnally I think your views are a little tainted and unobjective, and I have a theory this may be down to the media reports about him, especially from the likes of David "fish face" Platt on skry sprots. To quote "I still dont know about Crouch he hasnt come up against some world class opposition yet" Fcuk me Platt what do you call half the Chelsea team then or Man U team then and Crouchy even score the winner against the scum last season.

      All the football writers seem to slate him and the wankers on s*y sprats and s*y newts all seem to have this smirk on their face when reporting about him, as if he is some kinda joke and not really worth the time they are spending on him.
      Ok hes not had a good game today, but cmon how many good games has shevchavko had since his 30 million lemon move from AC Milan.

      From a personal point of view the one player you should in my opion be singling out for critsism is Jermain Pennant he has not performed except for one goal and maybe one second half performance this season. Crouchy on the other hand has been more consistant this season than last and that is a fact.
      « Last Edit: Feb 03, 2007 03:48:38 pm by pragmatic »
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      Re: Peter Crouch (Striker)
      Reply #31: Feb 03, 2007 04:31:42 pm
      Regarding Crouch, yes he has done well for us, but he could do more - 6' 7" and hardly scores with his head ??

      He is a good team player, but is he a player to take us to another level ? In my opinion No.

      If at the end of the season, a £12m bid comes in (or around this figure) then sell.
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      Reply #32: Feb 03, 2007 05:12:27 pm
      I think the words ' Could do better' spring to mind, ok he has scored some good goals and he may be our top goalscorer but that doesnt make him 'great' - 13 goals isn't the best tally from one of your main strikers.   ;)   
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      Re: Peter Crouch (Striker)
      Reply #33: Feb 03, 2007 06:10:16 pm
      The thing that annoys me about crouch is he can have one great  game then the next three are average, if a bid of 9+ mill comes in for him then we should get rid of him.
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      Reply #34: Feb 03, 2007 07:25:08 pm
      i think he needs to be sent to finishing school to learn how to use that head of his that lives in the sky! yes, he does have a great touch for a tall fella but that's just not enough at this level. yes, he's a good team player but he's first & foremost a striker who with his attributes, should be knocking in at least 30+ a season. i think the novelty has worn off now & defenders know how to play against him. i think there is still a role for him to play this season but he needs to improve bigtime if he is to still be here next year.
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      Reply #35: Feb 03, 2007 08:24:26 pm
      I have said in other posts, i don't like it when we play 3 forwards, i think they get in each others way, now and then it payes off, but not today, it was hard watching them at the match.

      Peter Crouch i think will be gone in the summer to newcastle for something like 12mill. but before we do sell him we need a out and out striker, but that is going to be hard to find, and when we do cost a lot of money.
      My thoughts are we are short of 2 players to make us a great team, but those two players could cost us 40 to 50mill.

      but who????????

      for the next 2 weeks I'm on my holls, hoping for a bit if sun, you all have lots of fun
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      Re: Peter Crouch (Striker)
      Reply #36: Feb 04, 2007 09:21:49 am
        i think  we need  a real stiker (like already said  in this thread)  i like crouch BUT i do not think he is the type of  striker we need  against a very defencive sides like everton played yesterday...he does not have that power in headers and i think we lacked that yesterday ..and it was the only way we could have scored with everton 11 players in their own box....cannot pass from the middle ..with all those players in the 18 yard area...
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      Reply #37: Feb 04, 2007 07:27:27 pm
      I like Crouch as he gives us a different attacking options,the trouble is sometimes he doesn't seem to have belief in his own ability in front of goal.I don't know if anyone else as noticed but when he as opposition players around him and not much time on the ball his control is pretty good but when Crouch as time to think about his control and what he plans to do with the ball then his touch seems to let him down.Any one else noticed this?
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      Reply #38: Feb 04, 2007 07:37:24 pm
      I like Crouch as he gives us a different attacking options,the trouble is sometimes he doesn't seem to have belief in his own ability in front of goal.I don't know if anyone else as noticed but when he as opposition players around him and not much time on the ball his control is pretty good but when Crouch as time to think about his control and what he plans to do with the ball then his touch seems to let him down.Any one else noticed this?
      yes i totally agree    and  one other think  ,,he rarely gives power to his headers ..he just leaves the ball to just make contact with his head..if you know what i mean...............sayin g that  i do not mean   we should get rid of him or he is not good enough for us 
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      Reply #39: Feb 04, 2007 07:45:51 pm
      yes I totally agree    and  one other think  ,,he rarely gives power to his headers ..he just leaves the ball to just make contact with his head..if you know what I mean...............sayin g that  I do not mean   we should get rid of him or he is not good enough for us 

      Thats up to the coaches at Liverpool to give him extra training ,help him to improve his heading ability,more you head the ball the strong the neck muscles like all things in life the more you practice the better you are at it
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      Reply #40: Feb 04, 2007 10:14:33 pm
      My personal opinion is that he is sellable, at the right price.  He does provide us with options that none of the strikers do, but a good point was raised in this thread. 

      Where's all the headed goals from the fella? Very strange.

      More than £10 million and we could do business.
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      Reply #41: Feb 04, 2007 11:01:32 pm
      I like Crouch and like its all ready been said he does give us an extra option. but the trouble with crouch is he's very good at the things he's not supposed to be good at and the things he's supposed to be good at, he's sh*te!!!

      He's cant head a ball, he's 6'7" tall and cant head a ball!
      He cant hold a ball up, he's a fcukin big target man who cant hold the ball up while others join the attack!

      He can dribble and beat a man, don't ask me how, with those long, long legs but he does! he takes defenders on an beats them and is as dangerous as any one in those situations!
      What a first touch the lad has!! His brain is nearly 7 foot away from the ball but he Caresses the ball like an angel!
      He dispatches the ball into the onion bag with the grace of an artist sculpting his final and greatest work! Lets face it if a Brazilian had scored that scissor kick against Galatasry in the European Cup we'd still be talking about it now!

      So thats why I like Peter, I cant work the Lad out and to be honest I've given up trying, I just enjoy seeing him do the things a 6'7" bean pole isn't meant to do!  ;)
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      Reply #42: Feb 05, 2007 09:21:05 am
      he has good feet yes but is that enough?

      he is ineffective in a whole lot of games.  Gets the ball and passes it back or he just flicks it on without even looking too see if a Liverpool player is anywhere near.  yes he sometimes beats players but he has no pace at all so defenders always recover to get in a tackle. 

      there are target men out there who are better players and better finishers then crouch.  Dean Ashton is just one of them!!
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      Reply #43: Feb 05, 2007 05:03:56 pm
      crouchy is one of the best strikers we have had at this club. if we never had crouchy then wud we be in 3rd in the league? ask your self that.
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      Reply #44: Feb 05, 2007 05:20:53 pm
      crouchy is one of the best strikers we have had at this club. if we never had crouchy then wud we be in 3rd in the league? ask your self that.

      I would argue that Rafa could of spent £7.5m on somebody better than crouch!!
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      Reply #45: Feb 05, 2007 06:20:11 pm
      i think Rafa did a brill deal by getting crouch at that price. name a player that wud of cost that much and made a big impact in games?. ime sorry but crouch is fantastic. 
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      Reply #46: Feb 05, 2007 06:50:34 pm
      I'm sorry but there where times on Saturday when he just plain embarrassed himself, how many times did he fall over when going for a 50-50 ball in or around the box? And you cant tell me that not one of our other strikers couldnt have done better with the chance he had at the end of the game when his shot became a back pass!
      Yes he does score the odd spectacular goal but so did Danny Murphy and he wasn't good enough either, as for the 7.5mill price tag that is purely down to the fact he is English if we had got him from the continent for example he would have cost half the price and for me that would have been a more sensible fee, he is a budget player because we cant at the moment afford any better.
      The lad is slow his first touch can be terrible and for a man who is unusually tall his heading ability is dire,I mean surely it should be his strength something he would have worked on as a kid like for instance Nial Quinn or Jan Koller.
      Yes he has scored some crackers and I would never question his commitment and while he wears a red shirt I will back him to the hilt in front of non reds, but ask yourself this if Rafa gets as expected a war chest to go out and buy players do you think he is good enough to stay in the managers future plans?
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      Reply #47: Feb 05, 2007 07:16:07 pm
      My personal opinion is that he is sellable, at the right price.  He does provide us with options that none of the strikers do, but a good point was raised in this thread. 

      Where's all the headed goals from the fella? Very strange.

      More than £10 million and we could do business.
      OK so we sell him for £10 million,who would you get for £10million to replace him?  :-\
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      Reply #48: Feb 05, 2007 09:27:05 pm
      OK so we sell him for £10 million,who would you get for £10million to replace him?  :-\

      Can we not rebuild Fowler for £10 million?

      Sell Cisse for another £6/7 million and then buy somebody for £18 million.

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      Reply #49: Feb 05, 2007 10:04:01 pm
      OK so we sell him for £10 million,who would you get for £10million to replace him?  :-\

      ok it's only paper talk, but £25m for Henry ?,
      put it this way £15m cash to find and sell Crouch for £10m - Bargin or what !!
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      Reply #50: Feb 06, 2007 01:24:56 am
      Not trying to flame but regarding Peter Crouch...is he really a good enough player for us?

      I have been sitting on the fence since he arrived to be honest.  I just can't work him out.  You look at sides with the likes of Drogba, Rooney and Henry and then we have Crouch.  If we are going to be getting a bit of money in the summer then maybe it is time to cash in on him.

      I've got nothing against the guy - he's scored some good important goals for us...but is he the future of our strike force?

      I know I'm new but I agree with you. He is good but when we look at other team's strikers and compare ours we just don't seem half as good.
      I know I love Bellamy cos he's from Cardiff, he is good, but we need someone who's gonna score like 25 a season, like Drogba or Rooney (Even though I hate both their guts!!)
      For the price we got him and at the time, even now he is doing well, but I just think we need someone who's gonna score more consistently than him. Maybe at another club he could be their top scorer ever.
      Could we get £10m for him?! Maybe. Depends who bids. Steve Bruce has money to burn at the mo!!
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      Reply #51: Feb 06, 2007 12:36:55 pm
      I think Rafa did a brill deal by getting crouch at that price. name a player that wud of cost that much and made a big impact in games?. ime sorry but crouch is fantastic. 

      Dean Ashton..  Also Vennegoor of Hesselink would of been way cheaper and he is a better target man than crouch.  Crouch goes missing in the big games!

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      Reply #52: Feb 06, 2007 12:53:39 pm
      ok it's only paper talk, but £25m for Henry ?,
      put it this way £15m cash to find and sell Crouch for £10m - Bargin or what !!

      Can you honestly see Henry leaving Arsenal and come to Liverpool?It would nice but sorry cant see it myself.The problem we have is,no matter who we get they will have to be class and the problem I see is all the well known great players are already playing for well known big clubs, which means big wages and lots of money to try and get them leave the club their with and come to us
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      Reply #53: Feb 06, 2007 02:04:35 pm
      he has good feet yes but is that enough?

      he is ineffective in a whole lot of games.  Gets the ball and passes it back or he just flicks it on without even looking too see if a Liverpool player is anywhere near.  yes he sometimes beats players but he has no pace at all so defenders always recover to get in a tackle. 

      there are target men out there who are better players and better finishers then crouch.  Dean Ashton is just one of them!!

      No it's not enough, and for me the Jury is still out for Crouchy.  Yes he's scored a few spectaculars, but as I've said before in previous posts, we haven't had a 20+ goal a season striker since Michael. Crouch can't head a ball either...... How's that?  He's 6ft7 for Christ's sake!! He may give us options, but he needs to get a decent run in the team too instead of been dropped all the time.

      One more season for Crouchy or if we can get good money for him, sell his ass!!  ;)
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      Reply #54: Feb 06, 2007 02:51:00 pm

      One more season for Crouchy or if we can get good money for him, sell his ass!!  ;)

      i did not realize you can sell just bits of a player, maybe we could flog of the good bits left of Harry :laugh:

      I would agree that he needs a run in the side to prove himself, and acknowledge his heading needs work but lets be honest the service from the flanks has not been the best :'(
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      Re: Peter Crouch (Striker)
      Reply #55: Feb 06, 2007 04:58:49 pm
      I think crouch has had his ups and downs at anfield,i don't really blame for his recent failings though.Playing three strikers can sometimes be confusing.Even in the everton game, it was the forwards were uncommfortable,especially Kuyt(playing on the left side).Crouch provides us with an option very rare in other teams.Its rather unfortunate he scores less with his head than he should.Our wing play has not been all that impressive this season as in the Everton game when our wingers esp. Pennant had their crosses going of target
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      Reply #56: Feb 06, 2007 08:10:27 pm
      Well let's face it. He's not deadly is he. I reckon he'd probably do better with his head if he runs round with his laces undone and his shirt stuck over his head!!!
      Thing is though, he has popped up with a few important goals (one against the mancs in the FA Cup was a beautiful occasion I recall) and he can hold the ball up better than Heskeeeeeeeeee ever could. Don't think his future is with us for the long term though.
      For me, we need a DEADLY striker who CAN head the ball and hold the ball up for others to join the attack. He just doesn't fit the full bill in that sense...
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      Reply #57: Feb 11, 2007 08:23:45 pm
      hes big hes red his feet stick out the bed

      good player but not amazing
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      Reply #58: Feb 11, 2007 10:11:07 pm
      In spain there likes much, a high forward who lowers balls of head, him  well to the betis
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      Reply #59: Feb 12, 2007 06:12:41 am
      So you get 10-12 mil for him...turn that money around and do you really think youll get someone better,  or not just better but even same skill? He is always going to take away that big defender....that is a priceless option for a manager because you put him in there with a real quality striker and your money.  And we have all seen him work well and he did sink the scum so he plays big games.  Hang on to him ditch cisse and bellamy, hold onto crouchy fowler and kuyt and dangle some american money in fornt of some world class strikers....that will leave great strike options.

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