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      king kenny
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      Reply #300: May 01, 2008 12:29:24 am
      It is very simple and has not changed if Crouch signs a contract he stays, because he is a valued member of the squad.  It seems that he is not going to sign and if so he will be sold.  If he does sign I think he will be used a lot more next season. 
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      Reply #301: May 01, 2008 12:31:55 am
      To be honest, as much as I like him as a player I want him to go for the good of the squad. We need to show the Chelsea's and United's that we mean buisness so to replace him with a talent like David Villa would show we mean buisness.

      He is a good player don't get me wrong, however he wouldn't even get on the United or Chelsea bench.
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      Reply #302: May 01, 2008 12:38:17 am
      My opinion remains the same as always, he is a great squad player and if he is happy stay as one then we should keep him. If not then I can understand why he might want to leave, as he is good enough to get regular football elsewhere.

      Also, well played Ra Ra Rafa, nothing like a good Crouch - Is he/isn't he good enough debate to take people's mind off things :D
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      Reply #303: May 01, 2008 12:40:04 am
      Also, well played Ra Ra Rafa, nothing like a good Crouch - Is he/isn't he good enough debate to take people's mind off things :D

      Agree Ed. I'm glad Ra Ra is on tonight. He has started a few discussions that has taken my mind off the game for a while!!
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      Reply #304: May 01, 2008 01:04:30 am
      I'm actually think Crouch is a very good player but like Ra Ra I feel he will be moving on in the summer. I don't feel sorry for him like some do as if he really was good enough and peforming well in training then he would be in the team.


      Would he though? I don't know. He usually bangs a goal in when he gets a chance. And he doesn't get that many games. I think there might be a little more to it than that to be honest mate.

      Tonight I feel we would have done well to have Crouch up front in the first half. The way the game was going, there were too many balls going astray with no one to hold it and bring our players further up the pitch. Plus Torres would have had a bit more space.
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      Reply #305: May 01, 2008 01:06:39 am
      Do you think there is a bit more going on behind the scenes then RK?
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      Reply #306: May 01, 2008 01:11:16 am
      Would he though? I don't know. He usually bangs a goal in when he gets a chance. And he doesn't get that many games. I think there might be a little more to it than that to be honest mate.

      I don't know, I considered this possiblility when he wasn't getting games at the start of the season, but Rafa had his chance to get rid of him in January and chose not to. This leads me to believe one of two things, either he is still in Rafa's plans or we weren't gonna be given the funds to buy a replacement.
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      Reply #307: May 01, 2008 01:17:02 am
      He is a good player don't get me wrong, however he wouldn't even get on the United or Chelsea bench.

      I doubt anybody on here would disagree with that line. 
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      Reply #308: May 01, 2008 01:18:23 am

      He is a good player don't get me wrong, however he wouldn't even get on the United or Chelsea bench.

      I think he would be valuable to both teams, I means its not all about silky skills etc. Impact in games and being a nuisance to defenders is key.  If you were chelsea manager you wouldn't consider playing him ahead of Shevchenko?  The thing is he is a squad player that at the very highest level will be used predominantly off the bench.  So its decision time does he want quantity or quality.  Does he want to play week in week-out, or does he want to play less but with the added incentives of playing in finals and big games be it off the bench most of the time with winner medals.
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      Reply #309: May 01, 2008 01:32:40 am
      I don't know, I considered this possiblility when he wasn't getting games at the start of the season, but Rafa had his chance to get rid of him in January and chose not to. This leads me to believe one of two things, either he is still in Rafa's plans or we weren't gonna be given the funds to buy a replacement.

      I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter. If he was in Rafa's plans, he'd have some involvement in games like tonight. He can cause problems amongst a defence, he's an outlet and he can usually chip in with a goal. I think if he was in Rafa's plans, he'd get more of a look in.

      Do you think there is a bit more going on behind the scenes then RK?

      No idea to mate to be honest mate. But he's our third best goal scorer in the league behind Torres and Gerrard. And third best goal scorer along with Kuyt and Benayoun in all comps - with a lot less time on the pitch. It does make you wonder doesn't it.
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      Reply #310: May 04, 2008 08:42:33 pm

      Rafa "We offered [Crouch] a new contract, so he has the idea and now it is just speculation. We want to keep him."

      Crouch not even on the bench against city today. So...it looks like Rafa DOES want him to sign and stay but maybe Crouch is waiting to see what offers he gets at the end of the season OR waiting to see if the contract is improved. Either way maybe Rafa has stopped including him to signal to him that if he isnt going to sign then he will be out this summer.
      If Crouch is going to try and not sign and leave on a free i agree with Rafa, sell him at the end of the season and use it for new players.
      I hope he signs though, with the right players around him he can really do a job for us.

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      Reply #311: May 05, 2008 01:23:01 am
      It looks like Crouch will leave If he was staying I am sure we would have seen him on the pitch today but if that turns out to be the case I am sure Rafa will want to bring in a top replacement and how do we know if Rafa hasn't lined up Villa or someone of that standard. Losing Crouch would be a blow and one I believe we may regret.......
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      Reply #312: May 05, 2008 04:05:31 am
      Im not so sure he'll go, i have a feeling that he wasnt used today as hes going to stay and he wont have already played his last game at anfield. The city game didnt count for anything and i think rafa would have let him play his last game at anfield if he was going to sell him especially as he's a liverpool supporter.
      Rafa "We offered [Crouch] a new contract, so he has the idea and now it is just speculation. We want to keep him."
      maybe Rafa has stopped including him to signal to him that if he isnt going to sign then he will be out this summer.
      completely agree
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      Reply #313: May 05, 2008 04:37:55 am
      Can't see it - heard a rumour tonight he's signing for Portsmouth, plus heard Rafa in an interview on the way home from the game saying how the players were the option of turning up with the squad or staying at home and watching the TV.

      Riise, Pennant and Crouch must have found something good to watch, although in Crouch's case it is a long journey to Fratton Park!
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      Reply #314: May 05, 2008 05:57:03 pm
      I don't really mind if he leaves, someone much better that him will take is place.
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      Reply #315: May 06, 2008 12:23:17 am
      Following his non inclusion in the C.L game at the bridge, I see Crouchie moving on. He will be massivly hurt by that and will move to get regular football. Even to a smaller club he would still get more oportunity to show his talent, to try and influence his England chances. I think any player would do the same. I do rate him as an impact player but mabey thats not enough for him. It certainly hasn't been this season. Any  player with his scoring record would be gutted to be listed behind Vorronin. I'd be very surprised to see him in Anfield Red next season.
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      Reply #316: May 07, 2008 10:22:59 pm
      http://www.liverpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=108677

      Peter Crouch will seek talks with Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez before making a decision on his future.

      The England striker has been linked with several Premiership clubs recently, after starting in just 9 league games for The Reds this season

      'What I must do is speak to the manager,' said Crouch.

      'When all is said and done, I don't think I can have another season like this year where I've started nine Premier League games.

      'Out of a 38-game league season, nine games is not the amount you want to be playing.

      'I'll have to speak to the manager and see what his plans are. I need to see him and sort things out.

      'I have to find out what he wants from me for next season and whether or not I can continue with that.

      'In some ways I want to feel wanted. I've got a few questions I want to ask him, and I'm sure he has with me, too.

      'So I'd like to speak to the manager and the club before I commit to anything and know whether or not I'll be here next year.

      'It's always nice to know that if things did go completely wrong for me at Liverpool, I'd have options to go somewhere else and it's not the end of the world if things don't work out for me there.

      'All season there has been speculation I could be going to another club. I've just always got on with playing for Liverpool until told otherwise.'
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      The Crouch situation really leaves me with a bad feeling. I really want liverpool to keep him. He knows he's a valuable player, and it is normal for him to need more playing time on field. BUT what i can't agree with is the-guaranteed-shirt/place-in-the-first-11 syndrome, every player must fight for a spot.

      I just feel we might sell him off and later bite our fingers for doing. He is a striker that, given the opportunity, can deliver 20 goals/season. Peter Crouch has played 21 times this season, 15 of those 21 times, he came off the bench. Scored 11 goals too.

      I say we keep him.
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      Reply #317: May 07, 2008 10:41:27 pm
      i think he should stay too.

      He just feels he should have started more and i agree. He's a great striker, underrated and is more than capable of 20 a season.
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      Reply #318: May 08, 2008 12:00:17 am
      I would hate to see him go... defo can get 20 goals a season if given the opportunity..
      It would be horrible to see him play against us in the EPL!!!
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      Reply #319: May 08, 2008 04:00:09 pm
      £15m for Crouch apparently. Will we get it?

      http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,7732.0.html
      « Last Edit: May 08, 2008 04:13:24 pm by redkenny »
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      Reply #320: May 08, 2008 04:05:14 pm
      £15m for Crouch apparently. Will we get it?

      Just posted a thread with comments from Rafa in the transfer board. Wasn't sure if I should of put it here though. Feel free to move it RK.
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      Reply #321: May 08, 2008 04:11:56 pm
      Just posted a thread with comments from Rafa in the transfer board. Wasn't sure if I should of put it here though. Feel free to move it RK.

      No, you posted it in the right place mate. I've not long signed in, so only just seen your thread.
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      Reply #322: May 08, 2008 11:24:21 pm
      15 mil pounds! That's a club record.
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      Reply #323: May 09, 2008 04:22:58 am
      I would love to see big Pete here and would not give him for less than that. I am weary if Portsmouth win the FA cup and sell Kranjcar to Arsenal they would be prepared to fork this much out.
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      Reply #324: May 09, 2008 09:03:05 am
      If RAFA gets 15 million for Crouch  it will go down as the 8th wonder of the world.I think 10 million would be nearer the mark and that would represent a good return to the club. If he was to stay I think he would play less games next season due to the emergence of some of our young reserves so it is probably better for club and player if he moves on.
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      Reply #325: May 09, 2008 11:13:04 am
      I think Benitez should convince Crouch to stay, that he  has a better future at LFC, but Benitez is half hearted about Crouch, he rather see him go, and if we lose him, I don't think Bentiez will replace him with better striker than Crouch, he will depends on the two useless strikers in Voronin, and Kuyt, who will not score 10 goals a season between them.

      It is sad to see Crouch leave us, and that is because of Bentiez, who has no idea how to accommodate Crouch properly!!!
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      Reply #326: May 09, 2008 08:30:17 pm
      http://squarefootball.typepad.co.uk/squarefootball/2008/05/of-seasonal-mat.html

      Of seasonal mating rituals and Peter Crouch

      The mating rituals of the transfer speculation season are a splendid site. The empurpling of the noses, the puffing out of chests, the lesser crested warbling and so on. But the crucial indicator that the season is upon us is the traditional sight of the setting of inflated prices by the dominant males.

      And £15m for the well travelled 27-year-old, Peter Crouch, does feel inflated.

      There are a number of clubs in need of a forward like Crouch, a difficult to play against player with an excellent strike rate at the highest level - Crouch should be a solid gold player. But at club after club Crouch has scored goals, before being released.

      After being sold to QPR for a nominal fee as a 19-year-old by Tottenham in 2000, Crouch has played for six clubs - usually in the top flight. His transfer fees add up to £16m to date, the most significant being when Rafa Benitez paid £7m for him to join Liverpool in 2005, and when Graham Taylor took him to Villa for £5m in 2002.

      But Crouch's three seasons on Merseyside are the most he has spent at any club as a professional. He has no reputation as a moaner, yet he never seems to fit in. Given his ability on the deck and his physical presence this is surprising; perhaps he doesn't have enough pace for some managers?

      But to get back to mating rituals. Rafa Benitez could well be under some financial and player contraints this summer after the purchases of Skrtel, Mascherano, Torres, Babel, Voronin and Benayoun as well as younger talent like Lucas, Leto, Insua, Plessis and Itandje since last summer. After signing these eleven players the wage bill at Liverpool, never mind the transfer budget will be strained. And some players need to be moved on to allow the new signings some space.

      Which is why Liverpool need to offload the likes of Riise, Crouch, Carson, Kewell etc. Rafa Benitez knows that he needs fresh blood for the long awaited title challenge (that he really should mount in his fifth season at Anfield). A well publicised £15m price tag is unlikely to be the end of the matter and an offer of around £11m would probably be enough to bag the easily spotted Crouchus Crouchus, Biggus Manus Withus Goodus Touchus.
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      Well, well, well..... O dear.

      If Crouch has to leave, it must cost the buyer a bundle. 15 million calms my nerves. I dont want him to leave. He is a different type striker.
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      Reply #327: May 09, 2008 11:09:58 pm
      As much as i'd like crouchie to stay, I think now is the time for him to go. It's inevitable he will leave soon so lets get a big fee for him now rather than see him play for only a handfull of games and get next to nothing for him next year.
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      Reply #328: Jun 02, 2008 01:02:34 am
      So is he gonna do a Michael Owen, Steve McManaman...?

      http://www.anfield-online.co.uk/lfc-news/2008/peter-crouch-will-he-or-wont-he/

      Are we going to be held to ransom by other clubs or Crouch himself?

      I feel if Rafa doesn't want him, then sell him this summer. No messing about.

      It's fair to say that Crouch hasn't really been given a fair crack of the whip this season, but the way things are with funds for the team these days, we can do without losing a few million pounds.

      What do we value Crouch at?
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      Reply #329: Jun 02, 2008 01:56:08 am
      crouch had a few chances tonight for england..didnt seem to take them.... his headers are only about 20% effective, for such a tall feller ... i think heskey was better with his head.....   although i think he is a decent enough player....    we need to sell him and get david villa he can head the ball better

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