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      finchie
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #161: Jun 09, 2010 10:05:11 pm
      And if that's not enough KiK official story believers could watch this clip from 8:56

      Al Qaeda Doesn't Exist (Documentary) - 1
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #162: Jun 14, 2010 01:04:52 pm
      Moving on, we have the Afghani/Heroin/CIA conspiracy.

      Most people in the west would dismiss this out of hand, but it has long been known that the CIA has used drug money to fund "black ops" around the world.

      This was never more evident than in the way the US went after the Colombian Medellin cartel, whilst at the same time it was business as usual for the Cali cartel.
      One of the major reasons that Pablo Escobar was hunted down so remorselessly was that he stopped playing ball with the authorities and giving up shipments to make it look as though the "war on drugs" was achieving something.

      Back to Afghanistan, and the poppy fields, the amount of opium produced in Afghanistan has risen significantly during the US occupation.

      Here are some links I recommend;
      http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?210213-Through-Afghanistan-and-Kosovo-CIA-Runs-and-Controls-the-Multibillion-Dollar-Heroin

      http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2008/10/23/the-politics-of-heroin-cia-complicity-in

      http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/cia_and_heroin_158.html

      http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO404A.html
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #163: Jun 14, 2010 01:25:10 pm
      KIK those of us who can see past the bull crap regarding the war in afghanistan know too well the reasons behind it were oil,gas and opium.

      Under the taliban opium production fell by almost 80/90% and since the invasion it has gone back up 80/90% production.

      A freind of mine who served in afganistan has told me that they were protecting poppy fields and not the people,but I guess some on here would find that hard to beleive.
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #164: Jun 14, 2010 01:28:34 pm
      Here's the evidence of guarding the poppy fields, Shabs

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/dyinginafghanistan.php
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #165: Jun 14, 2010 01:35:19 pm

      Hiya finchie! F***ing stinks mate just like in vietnam when dead USA soldiers were being returned home their bodies were stuffed with heroin mate,not saying thats happening now with the brit's but it happened.
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #166: Jun 17, 2010 11:32:13 am
      I suspect the 9/11 argument is won on this thread given that backers of the official version have stopped discussing. I know from encouraging PMs received that there is interest in this topic.
      These videos have just been put up on youtube and I think they're really good at illustrating why the official version of the collapse doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Two quotes sprung to mind watching these videos:

      Richard Feynmann
      "Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”."

      Arthur Conan Doyle
      "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

      9/11 Experiments: Collapse vs. Demolition ~ Part 1 of 2
      9/11 Experiments: Collapse vs. Demolition ~ Part 2 of 2
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #167: Jun 17, 2010 12:06:12 pm
      You boys are left on your own to play because nobody could be arsed posting.
      People can come up with alternative suggestions as long as there's daylight and not affect the truth  which is the case here.
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #168: Jun 17, 2010 12:25:44 pm
      You boys are left on your own to play because nobody could be arsed posting.
      People can come up with alternative suggestions as long as there's daylight and not affect the truth  which is the case here.

      More like no-one can refute the evidence.

      If you can, then you should put up or shut up.

      As I have said numerous times, I'm not sure I believe the conspiracy theories about 9/11 - the only thing I am sure of is that the official explanation doesn't add up, especially in respect of WT7.

      You bring nothing to the table except disparaging remarks, but then expect others to treat you with courtesy.

      It's not about belief, it's about studying the evidence for and against - you sir have studied nothing and simply regurgitate media bullshit about every single world event, without bothering to look behind the media coverage, and official reports which have been shown to NOT add up to much of anything.

      Why not try discussing an event with actual evidence, sources, reviewed data and respect for your fellow posters?

      It might not change your mind, and nor would I expect it to, but some issues are worthy of further investigation, research and serious discussion.
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #169: Jun 17, 2010 01:18:40 pm
      They are not disparaging remarks whatsoever I have never been offensive or discourteous in any of my posts regarding this or any other topic with you, indeed it is yourself not I who has resorted to the F word on more than one occasion.
      I may attempt to question a premise and if you take offense it is really a failing on your part and ostensibly your problem.
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #170: Jun 17, 2010 08:19:11 pm
      I've been doing some research today about why Halliburton are not being named as culpable in the recent oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

      As some of you may or may not know, Halliburton are a company with close ties to the government in the US.

      Dick Cheney was at one time, Chairman of Halliburton, but gave up his ties with the company soon after they won a no-bid contract for the rebuilding in Iraq.

      It later transpired that Cheney had held onto millions of dollars worth of shares, which had quadrupled (if not more) in value, thanks to the no-bid contract they won, which Cheney was instrumental in handing to them.

      It is not clear if Cheney has cut his ties with Halliburton, but it seems unlikely, given that major contracts were handed out to a subsidiary of Halliburton, called KBR.

      In Iraq and in other countries, contractors work on a cost plus basis, which is basically a license to print money when working on government contracts.

      Sometimes there are as many as 5 sub-contractors working under the main contractor, which means that the US taxpayer is paying for the same work up to 5 times.

      Cost plus is a dis-incentive to efficiency, and works like this in its most common form:
          MR = P + ((dP / dQ) * Q)

      where:

          MR = marginal revenue
          P = price
          (dP / dQ) = the derivative of price with respect to quantity
          Q = quantity

      This method of charging means that the stock price of Halliburton went through the roof as soon as they were awarded government contracts in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places.

      Halliburton have been investigated on several occasions for accounting irregularities, bad practice (including rotten food being given to troops in mess halls), improper disposal of waste products including medical waste, and toxic substances (burning these in open pits) and supplying/building faulty products and buildings, but they have always got away with little more than a slap on the wrist.

      So, as we can see, they have friends in high places (including the Bush family) they are bleeding money out of the government, and they are penny pinchers.

      In relation to the oil spill, they were contractors for the cementing process - this is plugging holes in the pipeline seal by pumping cement into it from the rig.

      Initial reports have indicated that many experts are convinced that the cementing process was at fault - the problem was very likely a faulty cement plug at the bottom of the well or the cement between the pipe and well walls didn't harden properly and allowed gas to pass through it.

      Halliburton also acquired "Boots and Coots", the premier international oilfield emergency expert. From firefighting to pollution control, Boots & Coots is there to provide complete emergency services as well as preventative maintenance, engineering and design, safety training, and are the most experienced team of well control specialists in history.

      They acquired them 8 days before the explosion happened, which cost them $240 million dollars. There were problems with the take over though, shareholders are suing over this. Halliburton has worked with Boots & Coots for a very long time, and Boots & Coots was involved heavily in both the Iraq and Kuwait war.

      Halliburton were working 5,000 feet down at the ocean floor only 20 hours before the whole thing blew up. A standard "fail-safe" that would normally stop this type of accident didn't work as it should have.

      So, the question is, why is all the blame being laid at the door of BP, when other companies are just as culpable?

      I have no great love for BP, in fact I really, really dislike the bas**rds - they have a corporate history of extreme PR to make them look as though they are a responsible company, but in reality they are VERY irresponsible.

      Part of the answer may lie in President Obama's insistence in calling BP "British Petroleum" even though they have been a multinational and changed their name to BP in the mid-late 90's and have as big a stake in the US pensions market as they do in the UK.
      Indeed, they have more US employees than UK employees, and while UK shareholders (in the shape of pension plans) hold around 40%, the US pensions have a 39% stake.

      There's also the fact that Halliburton have a history of cover ups and shady practices, and have friends in high places, including Cheney and the very powerfull Bush family.

      I'll be doing some more diggin around over the next few days, and will post updates.

      Edit to add:
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      Wall Street has been quick to defend Halliburton, at least based on the limited information available so far. The stock traded up 74 cents, or 2.4%, to $31.39 on Monday as analysts expressed confidence that the company was not to blame.

      http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/company-news/oil-spill-halliburton-investor-reaction/19462737/

      As always with this type of thing, it pays to "follow the money" - someone is making a killing out of this...

      Halliburton have been involved in oil spills before in 2002, 2006, 2009 and 2010, all involving plugging incidents, yet despite this, their stock continues to rise, and they manage to climb out of the sh*t smelling of roses.
      « Last Edit: Jun 17, 2010 09:13:01 pm by KennyIsKing, Reason: More info posted »
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #171: Jun 23, 2010 05:27:34 am
      So your argument is you're right and 9/11 skeptics are wrong?
      That's a pretty convincing argument!

      It's my opinion....and all the skeptics are wrong haha. Kind of one sided I know, but my point was I believe that the flight which crashed in Pennsylvania was brought down by US military.
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      Reply #172: Jun 23, 2010 08:30:25 am
      I think you're right about Flight 93 because there was debris scattered over miles and little wreckage at the crash site (although I've never researched this to the same level as WTC7).
      If you're open minded about this I'd read around WTC7 and look at the points made on here. No-one has yet explained the free fall collapse and that's because that can only happen with the simultaneous detonation of columns across the structure. When researched I don't think there's any doubt it was brought down as a controlled demolition but if you disagree with anything I've written I'd be interested in your arguments.
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #173: Jun 30, 2010 03:34:25 pm
      Anyone ever heard about FEMA camps and FEMA coffins?
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #174: Jul 15, 2010 09:07:12 pm
      Anyone ever heard about FEMA camps and FEMA coffins?

      Yeah, loads - interesting subject.
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #175: Jul 15, 2010 09:08:37 pm
      I don't want to appear flippant or to be using a tragedy to bump something I have an interest in, but wouldn't it be fair to say that Hillsborough is a true conspiracy?

      there's a good thread about it here:
      http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread561683/pg1
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      Reply #176: Jul 15, 2010 11:26:16 pm
      That's an impressive thread.
      There was definitely a conspiracy to cover up the truth by the SYP.
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #177: Sep 08, 2010 10:17:05 pm
      The Zapruder Film of 9/11 - Daniel Sunjata

      Two conspiracy theories rolled into one-JFK and WTC7. Worth a watch and only a couple of minutes long.

      This is part of the videos from the http://buildingwhat.org campaign that started this month.
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      Reply #178: Sep 08, 2010 11:33:29 pm
      I've got a good old conspiracy theory for you, I only slate Lucas because I have a man crush on him and I wana do him up the arse.
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #179: Sep 08, 2010 11:45:45 pm
      I've got a good old conspiracy theory for you, I only slate Lucas because I have a man crush on him and I wana do him up the arse.
      They will have to change our shirt sponsors for you, to AOL, the mancs have already got Anal On Nevil.  ;)
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      Reply #180: Sep 08, 2010 11:52:11 pm
      I've got a good old conspiracy theory for you, I only slate Lucas because I have a man crush on him and I wana do him up the arse.
      Bad idea posting a serious link near pub kicking out time. Go easier on the shandies next time.
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      Reply #181: Sep 21, 2011 05:22:27 am
      bump

      "The ONLY ones being knighted by the Queen of England are those who have served the Illuminati Agenda well."

      I wondered if anyone has ever thought about this. We proclaim Kenny as 'King' which I'm sure doesn't sit well with them. Maybe Liverpudlians were making too much noise re: the stadium disaster and this is punishment. We do speak out against sources like the Sun which are nothing but propaganda and drilled into an agenda (like all media). What we do know is Man U have dominance over the Premier League and their manager is knighted. They 'have no money' but this seems to be of no concern.

      Obviously football with its emotions and passion and sheer amount of fans in the world has a lot of potential in control. If you haven't seen or read about the American sports check this out - Kobe (minute into the video)

      Lebron James throwing Magical Hand Gestures including 666

      hits his heart, pulls the triangle, then the 666 signs. I only saw this video this morning. good mate of Jay Z, Lebron, these guys are in photos together all flashing the pyramid sign. They've even met Bill Gates. isn't this one of the most blatant things you've ever seen in your research of the truth?

      btw here's the link - a lot of interesting and true stuff on this website. http://www.illuminati-news.com/
      « Last Edit: Sep 22, 2011 06:05:03 am by Del Boca Vista »
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      Reply #182: Sep 21, 2011 07:40:11 pm
      That's one of the stupidest things I've read in a while Del Boca Vista. You've lost any form of credibility with me. *shrugs*
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      Re: Conspiracy Theories
      Reply #183: Sep 21, 2011 07:42:23 pm

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