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      Reply #1886: Mar 24, 2024 05:11:13 pm
      Congratulations Judd Trump on winning the World Open

      I didn't see much of this tournament with work and the fact that it was being shown around breakfast time over here. But from the highlights, Judd looked a deserving winner as he picked up his fifth ranking event of the season. I mean F***ing hell, five titles in one year is some going for any player but this the third time in his career that Trump has done it.

      When he says he doesn't care about putting titles in any sort of order, he just wants to win you kind of see it with the amount of trophies he does pick up. And there's still ranking events for him to have a go at this season, to break his own record of six in a single season.

      There's the Tour Championship which starts next Monday, which they've fu**ed about with this season. It's gone from the top 8 players in the world on the one year list to the top 12 with the four top ranked (Trump, O'Sullivan, Zhang & Ding) automatically making it to the quarter finals and the other eight starting in round 1.

      No need for the change in my opinion but maybe WST or the sponsors of the event would rather have a chance of the likes of Selby, Higgins and Carter playing in the event than Gary Wilson, Barry Hawkins and even Zhang Anda.

      After that finishes, then we've got just the World Championships left which will run from the 20th April to the 6th May - with the qualifying round taking place between the 8-17 April. I've booked meself off work from the 30th April (finish around 2pm on the 29th) so will be able to fully enjoy the second half of the Crucible.

      As boring and predictable as it sounds, it looks like it's a toss up between Judd and Ronnie for the Worlds at this point. The two of them have just been on a different level to the rest of the players. There's been 20 events so far this season, including non-ranking ones and between them Trump and O'Sullivan have won 10.
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      Reply #1887: Apr 06, 2024 06:44:26 pm
      Pretty poor from Mark Allen in the Tour semi V Williams. 0-8...first to 10 meets O'Sullivan tomorrow in the final. O'S beat Wilson 10-7. Wilson got back to 7-7 then played a few poor shots, one attempt at a mid range red was 8 inches out. Ronnie cleared up.

      Williams / O'Sullivan final...watch the evening session. Don't know where O'Sullivan gets his shirts..looked like he left a tea bag in the washer.
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      Reply #1888: Apr 07, 2024 09:08:57 pm
      Williams 8-5 up, just 2 more to take the Tour Championship. O'Sullivan needs to pot them off the lampshades to get back in it. Williams took 5 frames on the trot after being 5-3 down from this afternoon. Incred..

      Williams win 7 frames on the trot to win 10-5. O'Sullivan looks knackered though. Great from Williams well deserved.
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      Reply #1889: Apr 08, 2024 03:39:04 pm
      Pleased to see Mark Willams win the final last night. Ronnie O'Sullivan looked "burnt out" in the end.

      Besides it is nice to see someone else pick up a trophy.
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      Reply #1890: Apr 11, 2024 12:54:29 pm
      First qualifying round for the World's is complete;

      Martin Gould (withdrew) v walkover Jimmy White
      Ryan Thomerson 3-10 Liam Davies
      Ian Burns 10-1 Dean Young
      Andy Lee 9-10 Andrew Pagett
      Rory Thor 10-2 Hamza Ilyas
      Ross Muir 10-9 Cheung Ka Wai
      Alfie Burden 10-1 Rebecca Kenna
      Ishpreet Singh Chadha 6-10 Gao Yang
      Sean O'Sullivan 8-10 Bulcsu Revesz
      Andres Petrov 10-1 Ahmed Aly Elsayed
      Adam Duffy 10-5 Mink Nutcharut
      Andrew Higginson 10-7 Duane Jones
      Louis Heathcote 10-4 Oliver Sykes
      Stuart Carrington 10-5 Himanshu Jain
      Alexander Ursenbacher 10-0 Iulian Boiko
      Allan Taylor 10-6 Vladislav Gradinari
      Marco Fu 10-1 Baipat Siripaporn
      Jiang Jun 10-6 Amir Sarkhosh
      Hammad Mia 2-10 Haydon Pinhey
      Muhammad Asif (withdrew) v (walkover) Daniel Womersley
      Ma Hailong 10-1 Victor Sarkis
      Oliver Brown 10-0 Reanne Evans
      Fergal O'Brien 8-10 Mostafa Dorgham (Fergal retired from pro-snooker after his defeat)
      Long Zehuang 10-1 Sydney Wilson
      Rod Lawler 10-7 Gong Chenzhi
      Stan Moody 6-10 Mohamed Shehab
      Xing Zihao 10-6 Michael Holt
      Jenson Kendrick 10-7 Bai Yulu
      Liam Pullen 10-3 Anton Kazakov
      Peng Yisong 10-5 Manasawin Phetmalaikul
      Mohamed Ibrahim 6-10 Peter Lines
      Ashley Carty 10-4 Liam Graham
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      Reply #1891: Apr 15, 2024 08:32:41 pm
      2 former winners playing the last qualifying rounds. Bingham (29) and Robertson.(24)

      Eventual winner..Trump or Mark Allen. EW.Hawkins.

       O'Sullivan thinks the Crucible is too small a venue. Outdated. Maybe.Holds just under 1,000. He says Saudi or China should be considered. Will be moved in the next few years but to where.
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      Reply #1892: Apr 18, 2024 05:21:34 pm
      Qualifiers are over and for the first time in 20 years Neil Robertson will not be at the Crucible, he lost 10-9 to Jamie Jones to finish what has been a disatrous season for the Aussie.

      Noppon Saengkham hit a maximum against Andy Hicks before losing the final qualifier to Jackson Page, who's reward is a first round tie with Ronnie O'Sullivan.

      So the draw in full to start this Saturday is;

      Luca Brecel v Dave Gilbert
      Rob Milkins v Pang Junxu
      Ali Carter v Stephen Maguire
      Shaun Murphy v Lyu Haotian
      Mark Selby v Joe O'Connor
      Kyren Wilson v Dominic Dale
      John Higgins v Jamie Jones
      Mark Allen v Robbie Williams
      Judd Trump v Hossein Vafaei
      Tom Ford v Ricky Walden
      Zhang Anda v Jak Jones
      Mark Williams v Si Jiahui
      Ding Junhui v Jack Lisowski
      Gary Wilson v Stuart Bingham
      Barry Hawkins v Ryan Day
      Ronnie O'Sullivan v Jackson Page

      Some really tasty looking matches there, especially Ding v Lisowski. If they can both play at their best then that's gonna be a cracker. Trump will feel he's got one of the hardest draws from the qualifiers in Vafaei but the Iranian's style of play may just suit Judd. Carter and Maguire could be a very firey affair as neither is afraid to show their emotion on the table. And it's gonna be great to see Dominic Dale back at the home of snooker after a decade away from the place.

      I said after the World Open that it looks like it's gonna be a toss up between Judd and Ronnie as to who is World champ come the end of the season but you never know. Mark Williams won the Tour Championship a couple of weeks back and players like Selby and Higgins are really suited to the longer format of the Worlds. Then, of course, there's Mark Allen who is in good form and is always tipped to be World champion one day as is Ding and you've gotta think one day one of the Chinese lads will win it. And there's always Luca, the reiging champ. He's had a poor season but maybe this is where he comes good - again.

      Based on the seasons results so far though the sensible side of me can't see past Trump or O'Sullivan. The part of me that likes to be a bit different though says that I'm gonna throw me hat on Shaun Murphy (and I don't like saying that because I can't stand the c**t). He's had a very quiet season, despite winning the opening ranking event of it. Since then he hasn't reached a quarter final of any ranking event. He's very much a feast or famine type player at the Crucible, with him reaching more three finals since he won it in 2005 as well as six first round exits. So if he can get through the first round against Lyu Haotian then he'll feel he has a chance. It's a nice little section of the draw as well with Carter or Maguire in the next round followed by Brecel/Gilbert/Milkins/Pang in the quarters.

      But what the F**k do I know? Let's just enjoy it.
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      Reply #1893: Apr 19, 2024 05:31:52 pm
      Snooker Must Embrace New Opportunities
      Eddie Hearn says snooker must "embrace" investment from different parts of the globe as the debate over whether the World Championship should leave its iconic Sheffield home continues.

      The Crucible Theatre has hosted snooker's flagship event since 1977.

      But with a capacity of just 980, calls to move the event have grown louder, with the venue's contract set to expire in 2027 on its 50-year anniversary.

      "The problem is the Crucible is very small," Hearn told BBC Radio 5 Live.

      Hearn, whose Matchroom company own a majority stake in the World Snooker Tour, added: "The tickets sell out instantly - you could sell it out four or five times, so it is difficult.

      "We look at things that can continue to provide opportunities for our players, increase prize pools, grow and keep on evolving while also remembering the history of the sport, but that does not mean standing still."

      While the auditorium at the Crucible creates a unique atmosphere, the building's ageing facilities and its ability meet the demand for tickets has become a talking point within the game.

      Alexandra Palace in London - home to the Masters, one of snooker's other Triple Crown events - is able to accommodate over 2,000 fans, while the invitational Hong Kong Masters drew a record crowd of 9,000 when it was last held in 2022.

      "Snooker does not need to just have to land in the UK or China. There are events consistently around the world and if there is going to be investment in different regions we need to embrace that," Hearn added.

      "It is not on the radar in terms of trying to move the World Championship, but as the sport grows you have to understand that the flagship event will be in demand. We have three years left on the deal.

      "It is the most historic venue within the game and it is very important to the history and to the players. It would have to be an opportunity that would be difficult to refuse for the players. If there is an opportunity to drastically change the prize structure of the World Championship, for me you have to look at that."

      Matchroom founder and president Barry Hearn has previously called on Sheffield City Council to build another Crucible venue in order to satisfy the pull of the World Championship.

      While opinion is split among players over moving from the famous venue, seven-time world champion Ronnie O'Sullivan is among those keen on a possible switch.

      'The Rocket' has said he would like to see the tournament move, external to Saudi Arabia - which has signed him up on a three-year ambassadorial agreement - or China.

      In an interview with BBC Sport, Northern Ireland's Mark Allen agreed with the Englishman and outlined his belief that a move may benefit the game more overall.

      "I love the history of the Crucible and everything that has happened there. I am a traditionalist in the sense that I love the long format and the proper test the World Championship brings, but things move on and change," Allen said.

      "If we go somewhere else and it means more money and it is better for the long-term future of the sport, why not move?

      "If we are able to go to arenas that can hold triple what the Crucible can, why wouldn't we? I don't see a lot keeping us at the Crucible bar the history."

      The 2005 world champion Shaun Murphy described snooker as being "in the best state it has ever been in" prior to his arrival in Sheffield 12 months ago.

      But his comments, which came amid a match-fixing inquiry involving 10 Chinese players, raised eyebrows among the sport's other top players.

      "A lot of players were probably a bit disgruntled with where the game was at," Allen added.

      Wider concerns also focused on the game's finances and venues used to host prestigious tournaments, and during the present campaign there has been a high-profile row over player contracts and appearances in lucrative exhibitions in the Far East.

      However, with events in China back on the calendar and new tournaments added and prize money heading towards record levels of around £17m, the former Masters and UK champion believes that the sport has moved on to another level.

      "The authorities have taken on board a lot of what the players were talking about and the game has really gone to another level," he added.

      "We believed that more could be being done and it took player criticism for that to happen. The problem the players had was 'where was all this 12 months ago?' The changes they have made are amazing."
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/68853826

      I don't wanna see them changing venue for the Worlds.

      The UK Championships has lost a lot of it's shine with them changing home every few years after the Preston Guild. Was in Bournemouth for a couple, then York for a couple then Telford then ultimately settled back in York but it's treated as just another tournament now. Personally I think the Masters has gone sh*t, certainly since they went back to Ally Pally after the covid year in Milton Keynes because the fans there don't give a sh*t about snooker, they only care about cheering Ronnie. You can tell that by how poor the atmopshere is when O'Sullivan isn't playing.

      They can't afford to do that with the Worlds.

      Part of why snooker is as popular as it is is because of the Crucible. Fans love how close to the action they are, how gripping the atmopshere is with such a small number in there and how much of a show is being put on in that theatre.

      But like all things it'll come down to money and money alone. The bigger name players will either break away like they did in the darts many moons ago and take the fans and broadcasters with them because that's who people wanna see or the WST will cave in and give them what they want anyway because they'll be getting a bigger pay packet themselves by moving away from Sheffield. And if they do use darts as an example, it's in a much better place now than it was before the breakaway. It's moved on from a pub game to a global, multi-million pound empire and they did move their showpiece event from a traditional venue in the Circus Tavern to the bigger, more money spinning venue of Ally Pally. So snooker could easily follow suit.

      If China, Saudi, the yanks or even somewhere else in Britain offer enough bread then the 2028 Snooker World Championships won't be getting held at the Crucible and they might say that after 60 years of being in the same venue, it is time for a change.
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      Reply #1894: Apr 20, 2024 10:13:16 am
      Well we’re nearly ready and we’ve got Ken F***ing Doherty on commentary.

      Why? 😭😭😭
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      Reply #1895: Apr 20, 2024 10:54:16 am
      Well we’re nearly ready and we’ve got Ken F***ing Doherty on commentary.

      Why? 😭😭😭

      You can always turn down the sound.
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      Reply #1896: Apr 20, 2024 12:00:59 pm
      Snooker Must Embrace New Opportunities
      Eddie Hearn says snooker must "embrace" investment from different parts of the globe as the debate over whether the World Championship should leave its iconic Sheffield home continues.

      The Crucible Theatre has hosted snooker's flagship event since 1977.

      But with a capacity of just 980, calls to move the event have grown louder, with the venue's contract set to expire in 2027 on its 50-year anniversary.

      "The problem is the Crucible is very small," Hearn told BBC Radio 5 Live.

      Hearn, whose Matchroom company own a majority stake in the World Snooker Tour, added: "The tickets sell out instantly - you could sell it out four or five times, so it is difficult.

      "We look at things that can continue to provide opportunities for our players, increase prize pools, grow and keep on evolving while also remembering the history of the sport, but that does not mean standing still."

      While the auditorium at the Crucible creates a unique atmosphere, the building's ageing facilities and its ability meet the demand for tickets has become a talking point within the game.

      Alexandra Palace in London - home to the Masters, one of snooker's other Triple Crown events - is able to accommodate over 2,000 fans, while the invitational Hong Kong Masters drew a record crowd of 9,000 when it was last held in 2022.

      "Snooker does not need to just have to land in the UK or China. There are events consistently around the world and if there is going to be investment in different regions we need to embrace that," Hearn added.

      "It is not on the radar in terms of trying to move the World Championship, but as the sport grows you have to understand that the flagship event will be in demand. We have three years left on the deal.

      "It is the most historic venue within the game and it is very important to the history and to the players. It would have to be an opportunity that would be difficult to refuse for the players. If there is an opportunity to drastically change the prize structure of the World Championship, for me you have to look at that."

      Matchroom founder and president Barry Hearn has previously called on Sheffield City Council to build another Crucible venue in order to satisfy the pull of the World Championship.

      While opinion is split among players over moving from the famous venue, seven-time world champion Ronnie O'Sullivan is among those keen on a possible switch.

      'The Rocket' has said he would like to see the tournament move, external to Saudi Arabia - which has signed him up on a three-year ambassadorial agreement - or China.

      In an interview with BBC Sport, Northern Ireland's Mark Allen agreed with the Englishman and outlined his belief that a move may benefit the game more overall.

      "I love the history of the Crucible and everything that has happened there. I am a traditionalist in the sense that I love the long format and the proper test the World Championship brings, but things move on and change," Allen said.

      "If we go somewhere else and it means more money and it is better for the long-term future of the sport, why not move?

      "If we are able to go to arenas that can hold triple what the Crucible can, why wouldn't we? I don't see a lot keeping us at the Crucible bar the history."

      The 2005 world champion Shaun Murphy described snooker as being "in the best state it has ever been in" prior to his arrival in Sheffield 12 months ago.

      But his comments, which came amid a match-fixing inquiry involving 10 Chinese players, raised eyebrows among the sport's other top players.

      "A lot of players were probably a bit disgruntled with where the game was at," Allen added.

      Wider concerns also focused on the game's finances and venues used to host prestigious tournaments, and during the present campaign there has been a high-profile row over player contracts and appearances in lucrative exhibitions in the Far East.

      However, with events in China back on the calendar and new tournaments added and prize money heading towards record levels of around £17m, the former Masters and UK champion believes that the sport has moved on to another level.

      "The authorities have taken on board a lot of what the players were talking about and the game has really gone to another level," he added.

      "We believed that more could be being done and it took player criticism for that to happen. The problem the players had was 'where was all this 12 months ago?' The changes they have made are amazing."
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      I don't wanna see them changing venue for the Worlds.

      The UK Championships has lost a lot of it's shine with them changing home every few years after the Preston Guild. Was in Bournemouth for a couple, then York for a couple then Telford then ultimately settled back in York but it's treated as just another tournament now. Personally I think the Masters has gone sh*t, certainly since they went back to Ally Pally after the covid year in Milton Keynes because the fans there don't give a sh*t about snooker, they only care about cheering Ronnie. You can tell that by how poor the atmopshere is when O'Sullivan isn't playing.

      They can't afford to do that with the Worlds.

      Part of why snooker is as popular as it is is because of the Crucible. Fans love how close to the action they are, how gripping the atmopshere is with such a small number in there and how much of a show is being put on in that theatre.

      But like all things it'll come down to money and money alone. The bigger name players will either break away like they did in the darts many moons ago and take the fans and broadcasters with them because that's who people wanna see or the WST will cave in and give them what they want anyway because they'll be getting a bigger pay packet themselves by moving away from Sheffield. And if they do use darts as an example, it's in a much better place now than it was before the breakaway. It's moved on from a pub game to a global, multi-million pound empire and they did move their showpiece event from a traditional venue in the Circus Tavern to the bigger, more money spinning venue of Ally Pally. So snooker could easily follow suit.

      If China, Saudi, the yanks or even somewhere else in Britain offer enough bread then the 2028 Snooker World Championships won't be getting held at the Crucible and they might say that after 60 years of being in the same venue, it is time for a change.

      They just can't move away from the Crucible. The arena is superb - just the right size, intimate, comfortable for the spectator and a centre of gravity for all that love snooker. I'm going there midweek for a couple of sessions and I can't wait.

      Eddie Hearn's comments are dispiriting but indicative of the cancerous effect money and your Saudi lot are having on sport.
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      Reply #1897: Apr 21, 2024 09:03:33 am
      First man out of this years World Championship is defending champion Luca Brecel who lost a deciding frame to Dave Gilbert.

      Gilbert came back from 9-6 down to win the last four frames and book his place in the last 16, while Brecel is the latest to fall victim to the Crucible Curse.
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      Reply #1898: Apr 21, 2024 09:40:33 am
      They just can't move away from the Crucible. The arena is superb - just the right size, intimate, comfortable for the spectator and a centre of gravity for all that love snooker. I'm going there midweek for a couple of sessions and I can't wait.

      Eddie Hearn's comments are dispiriting but indicative of the cancerous effect money and your Saudi lot are having on sport.

      I think the biggest problem is O’Sullivan being as vocal as he is about his desire to see the venue changed - and his displeasure in the British venues in general.

      He’s just signed a new contract tying him down to a few dates in Saudi over the next three years, he’s always championing the Asian events and being the biggest draw the sport has means his voice and opinion carries a lot of weight.

      Eddie Hearn also has links with Saudi with the boxing as well as the event that the WST put on over there this season, so I do think it’s only a matter of time before the Worlds are moved there.
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      Reply #1899: Apr 21, 2024 11:08:48 am
      The move to Saudi would be 100% for the money. If it is to be moved China should be first pick. The game is gaining in popularity and there are still several Chinese players on the tour despite the recent bans.

      Not against it staying at the Crucible but they've had it for years and could've built a bigger more ambitious venue. Boost for the area as well.

      As the World..pockets cut a tiny bit tighter this year for the TV stages. Trump or Allen with Hawkins the EW bet.
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      Reply #1900: Apr 21, 2024 05:12:34 pm
      The move to Saudi would be 100% for the money. If it is to be moved China should be first pick. The game is gaining in popularity and there are still several Chinese players on the tour despite the recent bans.

      Not against it staying at the Crucible but they've had it for years and could've built a bigger more ambitious venue. Boost for the area as well.

      As the World..pockets cut a tiny bit tighter this year for the TV stages. Trump or Allen with Hawkins the EW bet.

      Yeah, unless the Crucible is expanded I can't see it staying there. It's absolutely fine as it is - it's a magical arena to walk in and no other snooker venue has enraptured me quite the way as Crucible did when I first visited.

      But I also agree that if it were to move, then China should be the place to go. Fantastic players have come from there since Ding smashed onto the scene in 2005. (I'd love to see Ding win the world title in Sheffield or anywhere as his talent deserves it!)
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      Reply #1901: Apr 21, 2024 10:33:46 pm
      Carter out to Maguire but Selby getting battered by Joe O'Connor..he's 2-7 down.
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      Reply #1902: Apr 22, 2024 07:16:58 pm
      Finally got some time to watch a bit of the snooker this evening
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      Reply #1903: Apr 23, 2024 04:45:09 pm
      The Crucible conversation continues;

      Vafaei says Crucible Stinks
      Iran's Hossein Vafaei has criticised the Crucible Theatre, saying the venue "smells really bad", the practice room is like a "garage" and the World Championship should move elsewhere.

      The Crucible, which only holds 980 people, has staged snooker's biggest competition every year since 1977.

      Its current deal expires in three years with many believing the event should then move from its Sheffield base.

      "Should I be honest? Are you enjoying being here?" asked the 29-year-old.

      "History is very important but nobody invests any money in this historical venue. You want to go somewhere really nice. If you walk around the Crucible it smells really bad. I'm honest. Everything is so bad."

      Vafaei has played at the Crucible in each of the past three years and lost 10-5 to world number two Judd Trump in the first round of the 2024 competition on Sunday.

      But the Iranian would prefer the event to be held in either China or Saudi Arabia, a country that staged its first snooker tournament in March with the World Masters of Snooker.

      "You go to other top venues in other countries and you can see how nice they treat you, how nice everything is and it is so shiny and completely different," added Vafaei. "If you ask me do I want to come back here, the answer is no.

      "The practice room? Do you see anything special about it? It feels like I'm practicing in a garage and that's not good. I'm coming here from a different country to see that. I'm sorry I have to tell the truth."

      Asked if the game would develop by going to China or Saudi Arabia, Vafaei replied: "100%. Look at China and how they organise their tournaments, fantastic, how they treat the players with the red carpet, opening ceremony.

      "The players are feeling like stars but here nobody looks after the players, after the match, before the match here, no-one cares who you are. In China everything is different, Saudi Arabia everything is probably going to be different."

      The issue of where future World Championships should be held has been a key talking point at this year's competition and Vafaei was open to it staying in the United Kingdom, but only if the venue was improved.

      He said: "If they don't want to lose the Crucible, invest some money - make it shinier, make it nicer, more luxury for the people, if they make it cleaner and nicer people would enjoy it. Why do you have to find a reason to move it?"

      In response to Vafaei's comments, a statement from World Snooker Tour said: "The Crucible is a historic venue and there are limitations given the size of the backstage areas. We work with the Crucible to make it as welcoming as possible for players."

      Murphy says Vafaei's comments are sacrilege
      Former world champion Shaun Murphy has described Hossein Vafaei's criticism of the Crucible Theatre as "almost sacrilege", saying the Iranian has "not helped the sport at all".

      On Sunday, world number 19 Vafaei said the Crucible, which has hosted the World Snooker Championship since 1977, "smells really bad", the practice room is like a "garage" and the tournament should move elsewhere.

      After his 10-5 win over Lyu Haotian, Murphy responded to those comments, with a passionate defence of the venue, regarded as the sport's home.

      "This is a working theatre, it’s not a purpose-built snooker venue," said Murphy.

      "We’re coming up to the 50th anniversary of snooker being here and if World Snooker Tour turned up tomorrow and did a site visit, they would probably not come here because it’s not big enough, but there’s nothing we can do about that.

      "But this is holy ground. It’s almost sacrilege for a professional snooker player to be so openly critical of our home.

      Hossein should educate himself on how our tour works in relationships with the WST and our broadcast partners, our venues and how special this place is."

      Murphy - who became world champion at the age of 22 in 2005 and who faces Scotland's Stephen Maguire in the last 16 later this week - felt Vafaei's quotes were disappointing.

      "Does he think he is helping our sport grow by being so openly critical of one of our biggest partners? He has not helped the sport at all," added Murphy.

      "I was always taught by my mum if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything."

      The Crucible only holds 980 people and its contract expires in 2027. Some people, including Vafaei and seven-time world champion Ronnie O'Sullivan, say the tournament should be held elsewhere, with China and Saudi Arabia among the options.

      But Murphy felt it would be a mistake to move the event from Sheffield city centre.

      "I don’t want the snooker to leave here," added Murphy. "We shouldn’t have any other event here, the World Championship should stay in this building, but it’s economics, it’s our biggest event in our smallest building.

      "WST could sell this place out five times over, 10 times over for the final. It can’t carry on as it is when our contract ends. I don’t think anyone wants to leave apart from Hossein and Ronnie O’Sullivan. Everyone else wants to stay but it can’t stay as it is and something has to give."

      Murphy is a non-executive player director on the World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association (WPBSA) board and felt the Iranian, who has played at the Crucible in each of the past three years, would not have the same attachment to the venue as other players.

      "Maybe having not grown up in the UK, he is not emotionally connected to this tournament as many of the UK players are. Perhaps it’s not as special to Hossein as it is for the rest of us," said Murphy.

      "Maybe he didn’t come here as a nine-year-old as I did and remembers running after Steve Davis for his autograph. This is holy ground for snooker players and Hossein should remember that. He said he does not want to come back so don’t. He is not forced to."

      Higgins thinks it's inevtible the World Championships will move
      As John Higgins prepares for his 30th World Championship appearance, the four-time champion thinks a move away from the Crucible is "inevitable".

      The famous Sheffield venue has staged snooker's biggest competition every year since 1977, with the current agreement due to expire in 2027.

      Higgins has never missed the event since his tournament debut in 1995, taking the top prize in 1998, 2007, 2009 and 2011.

      World number one Ronnie O'Sullivan is among those saying it should be staged elsewhere, with Higgins telling BBC Sport: "I think it's inevitable. The landscape of the snooker world will have changed in three years.

      "I'm just lucky that I've won it here. It will be sad to leave, it's been a massive part of my life.

      "I think if you asked other players who have never lifted the trophy here, that would be something they would probably regret for the rest of their lives.

      "The bank balance might not say that [for future winners], but if you look back on the history and the champions before them, they would love to have won it here because it's special. It's the best place to play snooker."

      There has been speculation about the World Championship possibly moving to Saudi Arabia, China or a larger venue in the UK.

      The Crucible's capacity of just under 1,000 spectators means demand for tickets often far exceeds supply.

      Higgins, 48, opens his 2024 title bid against Jamie Jones on Wednesday, calling the Welshman who beat former champion Neil Robertson in qualifying a "tough, tough player".

      "I feel good about my game and I can't wait to get out there and play," said the Scot. "I just want to immerse myself in the tournament and give it everything.

      "I still get the same feeling every time I come here, there's still the same buzz.

      "I'm just proud that I'm still competing 30 years later."

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      Re: Snooker
      Reply #1904: Apr 23, 2024 06:28:52 pm
      Think it is inevitable the World's moves from the Crucible but I'm on the Shaun Murphy side of things.

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      Reply #1905: Apr 23, 2024 06:40:57 pm
      Think it is inevitable the World's moves from the Crucible but I'm on the Shaun Murphy side of things.

      It will be another sport to sell out to Saudi


      If it does move then it should still be in the UK
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      Re: Snooker
      Reply #1906: Apr 23, 2024 07:36:53 pm
      O'Sullivan has had a pop at the Crucible several times.Think he said the place 'stinks' one time.

      It will be moved in the next few years. Money talks obviously.

      Mark Allen is good enough to win, it as are most of them, but will he keep it together.
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      Re: Snooker
      Reply #1907: Apr 24, 2024 12:33:08 am
      6 seeds out already and it's not even day 5. Si knocking Williams out. Like last year, he'll be one to watch this year for sure.

      Day and Hawkins played a very good session tonight as well. 5-4 in the Welsh man's favour.

      Milkman prevails in a last frame decider!
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      Re: Snooker
      Reply #1908: Apr 24, 2024 02:34:24 pm
      Lisowski puts Ding out 10-9. If Lisowski can stay calm he could be a big threat.Great potter and it's been said if he brought his practice game to the event he'd be even harder to beat. Underachieved for sure. Bingham in the next round.

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