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      The Real Sequel to Green Street.
      Aug 25, 2009 07:34:40 pm
      West Ham V Millwall in the league cup tonight.

      Should be interesting!

      I wonder if any hooligan programme makers will be on hand.

      Apparently match-day police around Upton Park began at 2pm this afternoon  :o
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      Re: The Real Sequel to Green Street.
      Reply #1: Aug 25, 2009 07:53:40 pm
      I thought about that when i read the draw. Should be interesting, indeed!
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      Reply #2: Aug 25, 2009 09:42:20 pm
      Jesus Christ.

      Violence Erupts at London Derby
      A man has been stabbed in the chest during violence involving "hundreds" of fans outside West Ham's Upton Park stadium during a game with Millwall.

      Fights broke out at 1915 BST and were still raging more than an hour later. A man was stabbed in nearby Priory Road at about 2025 BST.

      A fan told the BBC it was the worst hooliganism he had seen in 30 years.

      A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "It looks like there has been some planned trouble from fans."

      He added: "Hundreds of fans are estimated to be involved."

      The 44-year-old stab victim is said to be in a stable condition.

      One pub reportedly had its windows broken by bricks during running battles across several streets up to half a mile from the stadium.

      Two arrests have been confirmed, for affray and breaching a control order.

      British Transport Police said they heard reports of minor overcrowding at Upton Park Tube station.

      The BBC's Ben Jacobs, who is at the stadium, said: "The trouble broke out outside the Tube station about 600 yards from the ground.
      "There were 500 to 1,000 riot police and Millwall fans managed to break through the divide.

      "Bottles were thrown and bricks were as well."

      He added: "There has been a bit of trouble inside the ground.

      "There was a penalty shout and fans started gesturing and throwing small objects."

      'Burly bald man'

      Aaron Smith from Hemel Hempstead, who was at the game, said: "I saw one man cornered by at least a dozen Millwall fans before kick-off. Terrifying scenes."

      Eyewitness Fergal O'Brien said: "I saw a West Ham fan getting punched in the face by a burly bald man who had a coin between his fists."

      Another fan said: "I was in a throng walking up and a group of hooligans came for us.

      "The police wanted to help but they were clearly afraid to use force. I am still shaking. I thought I was going to die."

      Meanwhile Ben Newton, from Harrow, north London, said his father had been stretchered away after being hit with a dart to the head.

      And a Millwall fan told the BBC: "It was like a war zone outside the stadium. There was fighting all round.
      "I brought my kids with me tonight and they've seen some violence that is indescribable."
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      Reply #3: Aug 25, 2009 10:13:39 pm
      Violence Breaks Out

      A man has been stabbed and violent battles have broken out between rival football fans in "large-scale" crowd trouble, police said.

      Hundreds of fans are involved in the disorder which police said was caused by people without tickets to the West Ham versus Millwall game who had planned to start trouble.

      A spokesman for Metropolitan Police said more officers were being rushed to the scene outside Upton Park, in east London.

      "There is large-scale trouble involving hundreds of fans which we are dealing with at the moment," he added.

      Officers have made two arrests, one for disorder and the second for breach of a banning order.

      Police said the stabbing, in Priory Road close to the stadium, is connected to the fighting and the man is being treated by paramedics.

      On the Millwall Independent Supporters Association website fans were discussing the reports of violence.

      One fan, calling himself Uwe said: "Already this is turning into the biggest **** storm for a while. Hopefully it won't **** the club too much. Met have made their own bed by not giving us the tickets and then saying trouble was caused by 'ticketless supporters'."

      Inside Upton Park pockets of violence also broke out. Some supporters made it on to the pitch.

      The rival fans taunted one another as news of the fighting outside filtered through. The game finished 1-1 meaning an extra 30 minutes would be played



      Absolute disgrace, it's like frigging Green Street!

      West Ham now lead 3-1.
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      Reply #4: Aug 25, 2009 10:43:15 pm
      Millwall make me sick...they have also  being reported throwing darts at west ham fans head

      Hope they get a serious beating one day

      Lets hope they get punished
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      Reply #5: Aug 25, 2009 10:49:48 pm
      Both West Ham and Millwall should play all their home games behind closed doors for the rest of the season IMO because although West Ham fans weren't as bad they still constantly invaded the pitch and forced the Millwall players to leave the pitch.

      I feel sorry for Collison, his dad died 2 days ago in a motorbike crash but still decided to play and has to put up with this!


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      Reply #6: Aug 25, 2009 10:53:33 pm
      It should of been played behind closed doors the trouble was always brewing and was going to always happen
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      Reply #8: Aug 25, 2009 11:14:28 pm
      Millwall's fans have finally been let out of the ground!
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      Reply #9: Aug 25, 2009 11:15:35 pm
      f***in dickheads the lot of them. There'll have been kids absolutely terrified in there tonight.
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      Reply #10: Aug 25, 2009 11:18:51 pm
      F***ing hell. Deserve to be shot, the lot of them.

      Using football as an excuse to beat people/fighting for thrills. Pathetic human beings.
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      Reply #11: Aug 25, 2009 11:19:36 pm
      Liked the way Phil Thompson summed them up on SSN.
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      Reply #12: Aug 25, 2009 11:21:10 pm
      f***in dickheads the lot of them. There'll have been kids absolutely terrified in there tonight.

      I'm sorry but anyone taking kids to that game tonight wants their heads testing.

      With it being a night game, it was obvious there was going to be trouble tonight.

      A pic taken before the game:

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      Reply #13: Aug 25, 2009 11:22:48 pm
      I'm sorry but anyone taking kids to that game tonight wants their heads testing.

      With it being a night game, it was obvious there was going to be trouble tonight.

      How sad is that. Because of a bunch of cu*ts that have issues means the younger kids cannot go to a game, its a disgrace!
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      Reply #14: Aug 25, 2009 11:23:49 pm
      Yeah I know what you're saying, but there must have been loads of kids there all the same. f***in hell, when I went to Anfield when I was a kid and we got beat it was scary. Seeing as we never got beat.
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      Reply #15: Aug 25, 2009 11:24:40 pm
      Anyone have a clue how the firms contact each other with where to meet up or does it kinda just happen?
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      Reply #16: Aug 25, 2009 11:25:35 pm
      Why? You going to the next one?
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      Reply #17: Aug 25, 2009 11:25:38 pm
      Anyone have a clue how the firms contact each other with where to meet up or does it kinda just happen?

      Probably happens in around the local pubs to be honest and then word just spreads.
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      Reply #18: Aug 25, 2009 11:26:08 pm
      How sad is that. Because of a bunch of cu*ts that have issues means the younger kids cannot go to a game, its a disgrace!

      Yeah but that fixture has had a history of trouble.

      And what do you expect from a gang of cockney gobshites who have watched Football Factory and Green Street one too many times.
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      Reply #19: Aug 25, 2009 11:26:51 pm
      Anyone have a clue how the firms contact each other with where to meet up or does it kinda just happen?

      Mobiles, internet etc.
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      Reply #20: Aug 25, 2009 11:27:13 pm
      Why? You going to the next one?

      Yeah and you're coming with.

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      Reply #21: Aug 25, 2009 11:28:39 pm
      Oh baby! Man, that's the best ever off topic picture in the history of the world ever.

      EDIT: Oh F**k, they're not trannies are they? :laugh:
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      Reply #22: Aug 25, 2009 11:29:52 pm
      Oh baby! Man, that's the best ever off topic picture in the history of the world ever.

      EDIT: Oh F**k, they're not trannies are they? :laugh:

      :lmao:

      I'm pretty sure it said lesbians.

      Do I get a trophy Gow?
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      Reply #23: Aug 25, 2009 11:32:33 pm
      Yeah mate. Your dog's on the way in with it now.



      Used to be your Mum's. Nice to pass these things through the generations eh?

      And also a pic that sums up the people involved in tonight's violence perfectly.
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      Reply #24: Aug 25, 2009 11:39:30 pm
      My mum's dead.







      No, not really. But you really are a b***ard aren't you! :D
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      Reply #25: Aug 25, 2009 11:41:23 pm
      At least the dog's OK though eh? ;)
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      Reply #26: Aug 25, 2009 11:42:40 pm
      Nah, I shot him dead.

      Along with the superb lads that created violence tonight. Get 'em down for a few cold ones.
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      Reply #27: Aug 25, 2009 11:47:06 pm
      Always going to happen, surely the authorities should have advised close door game, then again this might not have stopped the violence outside.

      Would just like to say I have a lot of respect for Jack Collison tonight, Brave lad.
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      Reply #28: Aug 25, 2009 11:51:33 pm
      Always going to happen, surely the authorities should have advised close door game, then again this might not have stopped the violence outside.

      Would just like to say I have a lot of respect for Jack Collison tonight, Brave lad.

      What did he do?
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      Reply #29: Aug 25, 2009 11:52:12 pm

      His dad died 2 days ago in a motorbike accident.
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      Reply #30: Aug 25, 2009 11:52:50 pm
      His dad died 2 days ago and he played through that tonight and left the pitch crying.
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      Reply #31: Aug 25, 2009 11:53:03 pm
      Millwall spells trouble, simple as lads!!
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      Reply #32: Aug 25, 2009 11:55:06 pm
      To be fair, I don't think the lad that scored West Ham's first 2 goals did anything to help matters. Matty Upson was going mental at him for it.
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      Reply #33: Aug 25, 2009 11:56:35 pm
      To be fair, I don't think the lad that scored West Ham's first 2 goals did anything to help matters. Matty Upson was going mental at him for it.

      Huh?

      Sorry I'm clueless about this match as I didn't watch it!
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      Reply #34: Aug 25, 2009 11:58:52 pm
      Huh?

      Sorry I'm clueless about this match as I didn't watch it!

      Lad scored a goal and ran up to the Millwall fans and celebrated then slid over to the West Ham fans who were battling with riot cops and it led to a pitch invasion. I just saw it on SSN.
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      Reply #35: Aug 26, 2009 12:04:57 am
      WHU v Millwall games always have potential for violence.  Real bad feeling between the fans according to a lad (Hammers fan) I worked with.  There always seems to be a bigger presence of police around when they play each other, on the tube at least.
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      Reply #36: Aug 26, 2009 12:08:03 am
      Lad scored a goal and ran up to the Millwall fans and celebrated then slid over to the West Ham fans who were battling with riot cops and it led to a pitch invasion. I just saw it on SSN.

      Oh my!

      Who was it that scored?
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      Reply #37: Aug 26, 2009 12:08:21 am
      Seen some images on news, any fan identifies enterin the field should be banned for life, would this not be appropriate action by the clubs??
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      Reply #38: Aug 26, 2009 12:10:50 am
      Oh my!

      Who was it that scored?

      Can't member mate but was a young lad anyways.
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      Reply #39: Aug 26, 2009 12:11:58 am
      Millwall v West Ham.

      Trouble?

      I'm totally shocked and amazed.

      I blame Eastenders. That is one F***ing miserable program.
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      Reply #40: Aug 26, 2009 12:12:31 am
      This thread has strayed somewhat
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      Reply #41: Aug 26, 2009 12:12:40 am
      Junior Stanislas scored that goal.
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      Reply #42: Aug 26, 2009 12:14:49 am
      It will be interesting to see what action is taken. Some people have suggested booting both clubs out of cup games.

      Not sure what will happen to be honest, hefty fines no doubt though
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      Reply #43: Aug 26, 2009 12:17:19 am
      Step up Mr Platini, sure he'll have something to say about it  ::)
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      Reply #44: Aug 26, 2009 12:22:58 am
      Any word yet about whether the two teams will get punished?
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      Reply #45: Aug 26, 2009 12:25:26 am
      Seen some images on news, any fan identifies enterin the field should be banned for life, would this not be appropriate action by the clubs??

      That's what the FA have said in a statement.

      All identified fans to be banned for life.
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      Reply #46: Aug 26, 2009 12:32:37 am
      What a disgrace to English football a bunch of lads and bell ends that have watched "Green Street Hooligans" too many times.

      Well in Collison what a brave young man.
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      Reply #47: Aug 26, 2009 01:57:42 am
      An absolute disgrace.  :f_steam:

      Surely with all the troubles between the 2 clubs in the past, when the draw was made, someone at the FA could have rigged it so these 2 sides didn't meet each other.

      The officials at Uefa have been doing it for years in making sure Liverpool play Chelsea in the QF or SF stages of the Champions League.

      The organizers got a lot to answer for.
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      Reply #48: Aug 26, 2009 08:00:00 am
      Anyone have a clue how the firms contact each other with where to meet up or does it kinda just happen?

      Its all done on mobiles and the internet. I used to play sunday league footy with a chelsea member, he told me that a lot of them have each others numbers on their phones, if they are travelling to games and the distance isnt far they may veer off and meet in fields and car parks for a rumble. Think travelling to Newcastle and knowing some Hartlepool crew or whatever they call them for example just a team thats near where they are going.

      Weird world, he was in his 40's and that was 7 years ago - he loved it.
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      Reply #49: Aug 26, 2009 09:20:49 am
      The BBC seem to be blaming the West Ham fans for the majority of the trouble and from the footage they are showing you can see the majority kicking off are the Hammers so called fans. Yesterday afternoon the threat of violence was being advertised on the internet as Millwall fans bragged about songs they would sing about Calum Davenport and Jack Collison and West Ham countered with what they would do to them in return.

      The point is if I can easily find this on the net then certainly the authorities did so as well and that is why I thought on the whole they handled the situation very well, but for me more praise should go to the West Ham stewards who dealt with a very serious situation to the best of their abilities and did their club proud unlike the pond life in some parts of the ground who don't give a flying fig for the club

      On Sunday a minority of West Ham fans sang to Jermaine Defoe “you should have died with your brother” and whilst they where shouted down by the majority normal fans it does show that far from evolving into proper supporters some grounds still look like “holding pens for the Jeremy Kyle show”(quote)

      Did you see some of the fat balding middle aged men (no I wasn't there!) masquerading as fans as they kept running on the pitch in some vain attempt to re enact their youthful psychopathic rampages, some of those men are old enough to be Grandads! But that didn't stop them as they caused havoc inside and outside Upton Park.

      You would hope family and friends would put them straight but sadly they are more likely to receive a pat on the back as some sort of misguided badge of courage.

      Every one of them was caught on CCTV and every one of them should get a lifetime ban, as thy brought shame and disgrace to what I have always thought was a great club.




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      Reply #50: Aug 26, 2009 12:11:26 pm
      Police have released images of so-called fans they're obviously after for last night's trouble.



      Looks like the cast of Eastenders!

      They can expect their doors to be booted in, in the next couple of weeks.
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      Reply #51: Aug 26, 2009 12:30:20 pm

      On Sunday a minority of West Ham fans sang to Jermaine Defoe “you should have died with your brother”




      That is disgusting.
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      Reply #52: Aug 26, 2009 12:31:46 pm
      Police have released images of so-called fans they're obviously after for last night's trouble.



      Looks like the cast of Eastenders!

      They can expect their doors to be booted in, in the next couple of weeks.

      Bald yin in the middle looks like Phil Mitchell a bit ;)
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      Reply #53: Aug 26, 2009 01:20:45 pm
      Why do the West Ham and Millwall fans hate each other so much?
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      Reply #54: Aug 26, 2009 04:11:38 pm
      I've no idea why they hate each other so much.

      I've got work colleagues in Italy, Spain and Germany and they know all about the rioting last night.  it's all over the media in those countries, which the football associations of those countries will love, as it will one again mark all supporters of English clubs as hooligans.  it's a real step back for us.  This is despite the fact that i've been to couple of matches in Italy (Seria B)  and the atmosphere is really hostile at every game.  they have Ultra fans who have to be segregated, and even fans from the same club have to be segregated!!  my mate follows his team (Brescia) and sent me pictures of an away game at Pisa where there were pitched battles around the stadium and in the streets.  he says this happens at nearly every game, but you never here it reported.

      as soon as some tw*ts start playin up here, the pictures are all over the world again! Anybody involved in last nights troubles, should be banned for life from any football stadium. >:( >:(
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      Reply #55: Aug 26, 2009 04:31:44 pm
      They all must have small cocks ...idiots!!!
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      Reply #56: Aug 26, 2009 05:25:03 pm
      Only solution in my eyes for these scumbags is -

      (As a repeat to the violence at Upton Park)

      1- Carling Cup = 5 yr ban for all fans
      2 - Fa cup = 5 yr ban for all fans
      3 - League = 1 season ban for all fans.

      I know it might seem harsh, especially on the innocent fans but I'd love to see who would start a riot knowing the circumstances if they did so.

      Time for a crack down on this madness, and a blow like this to any club could be disastrous.
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      Reply #57: Aug 26, 2009 05:55:32 pm
      They hate each other because they are both in London and they reckong they are the two hardest firms and they want to battle each other to see who comes out on top
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      Reply #58: Aug 27, 2009 09:15:46 am
      Knock them both out of Cup competition for this and next season, games to be played behind closed doors at home and/or no allocation of tickets to away games.

      Thats probably being very lenient too.
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      Reply #59: Aug 27, 2009 09:20:38 am
      F**king pricks of the highest order,this must affect our chances of getting the world cup held over here.
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      Re: The Real Sequel to Green Street.
      Reply #60: Aug 27, 2009 10:31:28 am
      Immature and stupid and one too many viewings of 'Green street Hooligans'. They probably see themselves as heroes. Well, hopefully after they get their punishments they won't have the same attitude.
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      Re: The Real Sequel to Green Street.
      Reply #61: Aug 27, 2009 11:20:07 am
      West Ham have strong rivalries with several other clubs. Most of these are with other London clubs, especially with their neighbours Tottenham Hotspur and also with Chelsea, which sublimates the age-old East versus West London rivalry.
      The "Champions" statue, of Moore, with the World Cup, Hurst, Peters and Ray Wilson, boarded-up for protection before the visit of Millwall on 25 August 2009

      The strongest and oldest rivalry is with Millwall know as The East London derby. The two sides are local rivals, having both formed originally around the works sides Thames Ironworks and Millwall Ironworks shipbuilding companies. They were rivals for the same contracts and the players lived in the same locality. The early history of both clubs are intertwined, with West Ham proving to be the more successful in a number of meetings between the two teams, resulting in West Ham being promoted at the expense of Millwall. Millwall later declined to join the fledgling Football League while West Ham went on to the top division and an FA Cup final. Later in the 1920s the rivalry was intensified during strike action started by the East End (perceived to be West Ham fans) which Isle Of Dogs-based companies (i.e. Millwall fans) refused to support, breeding illwill between the two camps.

      The rivalry between West Ham and Millwall has involved considerable violence and is one of the most notorious within the world of football hooliganism. However, they were drawn against each other in the second round of the 2009 Carling Cup and met on 25 August 2009 at Upton Park. This was the first time in four years that the two clubs had played each other, and the first ever in the Carling Cup. Clashes between hundred of fans occured outside the ground, resulting in violence erupting up to half a mile away from the stadium, with serious injuries, damage to property and several arrests reported by police. There were also several pitch invasions which brought a temporary halt to the game.[35]
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      Re: The Real Sequel to Green Street.
      Reply #62: Aug 28, 2009 09:47:51 am
      F***ing shocking this crap. My dad always says its the reason he can't get into football, the crowd violence, and i try to convince him theres more to it obviously. But at the same time you see stuff like this and think why the F**k does this happen in football? It's immature, and everyone of the cu*ts should be castrated, then let them see whos got bigger balls ::)
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      Re: The Real Sequel to Green Street.
      Reply #64: Aug 29, 2009 11:48:56 am
      Burberry-cap wearing chav cu*ts.

      Good job I'm not a copper because I would have been a 'bad' copper.

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