Chelsea 2-0 Liverpool: Post match frustration

^^^ How can you admit having a Liverpool player as a scapegoat is a good thing?

^^^ How can you admit having a Liverpool player as a scapegoat is a good thing?

I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it is a fact.
I think he brings most of on him self. 

I'm really not a big fan of Lucas, although we are seeing some improvements from last season
 BUT to try and attribute this defeat to him, its not really fair, there were some players who were worse than him yesterday
  ynwa

Not going to single any player out for any praise whatsoever ,it was just a lousy game from start to finish.

Didnt understand rafa not playing benayoun because he is so creative and causes panic with his runs and close control.

Just a piss poor performance all round,and when torres starts gobbing off and whinging you know its going tits up.....

Playing Benayoun from the start of the game would have been a big risk.
He does offer us flair but we were at the bridge and playing on the break was always going to be the best option.
With a player like Yossi you have to be prepared to commit more players forward which would have meant emptying our Midfield.
Getting caught on the break would have been likely and we could have been out of the game by half time if mistakes were made.
In hindsight we made silly errors which cost us anyway but I think the selection and tactical set-up was fine yesterday in fairness to Rafa.
Mascherano is a excellent DM but he offers virtually nothing once he crosses the half-way line. We really need someone who can operate from box to box with equal effectiveness.

Lucas had a good game and held his own against a good Chelsea midfield winning tackles and completing 20 of the 21 passes he made successfully. His distribution of the ball is simple but he keeps the ball moving and rarely gives it away.

He is an attacking midfielder by trade and is being asked to operate in our own half which isn't his natural game but has done well for us so far this season.

Chelsea got players behind the ball in numbers when we tried to break and we rarely tested Hillario which was always going to be vital to us picking up any points from this match.

Explain to me how Lucas and Mascherano were our best players yet Essien still dominates. We are very poor at attacking and couldnt string fives passes together, instead we were hoofing it up to Torres and Gerrard who were extremely isolated. Benayoun and Babel shouldve started but Rafa likes to baffle us doesnt he. Yes Chelsea are great defensively but it doesnt help when you play 9 behind the ball. We hardly even created a chance and you can beat Hull 6-1 all you like but we are sh*te at attacking quality teams. Hoping Aquilani can add something to our game as we are in real trouble when Lyon and the scum come up.

We lost and suddenly all these attacks on Gerrard, Torres and all? At one time you worshipped them and it turned out yesterday those who worshipped them suddenly stabbing them and threw all these negative thoughts. Get real! It's Stamford Bridge FFS! I didn't think they played that badly. All I can think of was luck wasn't on our side. When Benny missed that easy chance I knew we didn't had the luck to win. Our lads fought bravely yesterday, standing tall with those p**ks at Bridge. We got lots of posession and we got our passes right but luck wasn't playing on our side. Did you expect we went there hoping to win? I do hope we won but hell it's not Craven Cottage to begin with.

Last season we got the best of result when we outplayed them in every department but yesterday it was a different story. Our midfield didn't have a grip and we let them control the midfield area too often. On contrary Johnson, Insua, Carra, Skrtel, Masch, Gerrard, Torres, Riera played well but only Anelka and Malouda got the better of us.

But I was a bit surprised when Rafa decided to pull out Riera rather than Kuyt as clearly for me, he's the better of them both. Kuyt for me not even playing well. He left his space wide open while he's busy playing at the centre of the pitch. Seems like he's ran out of ideas. While our left flank look a bit lively, our right side faded. For me, the worst performer yesterday was Kuyt and I'm judging by yesterday's game not whole 7 games played.

Explain to me how Lucas and Mascherano were our best players yet Essien still dominates. We are very poor at attacking and couldnt string fives passes together, instead we were hoofing it up to Torres and Gerrard who were extremely isolated. Benayoun and Babel shouldve started but Rafa likes to baffle us doesnt he. Yes Chelsea are great defensively but it doesnt help when you play 9 behind the ball. We hardly even created a chance and you can beat Hull 6-1 all you like but we are sh*te at attacking quality teams. Hoping Aquilani can add something to our game as we are in real trouble when Lyon and the scum come up.

How many players do you know capable of 'dominating' Essien in midfield??

I can't think of anyone and the only player that could get the better of him over 90 mins with him in this country is Gerrard who rarely plays CM anymore.

If you can't understand why playing Benayoun and Babel against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in the starting eleven is a bad idea then there is no hope for you I am afraid.

Babel is one of the worst players in the Premier League at tracking back and given that Chelsea are naturally going to have more of the ball playing at home we would have been like lambs to the slaughter and the game might have been over by half time.

Wanting Babel to play at all is quite a frightening thought as he is simply not up to this level of football which has been proven time and time again.

We looked tired from the start, and I agree Gerrard and Torres were culprits. We passed badly, countless times Chelsea players intercepted our passes, which often were short of the intended targets. There was a defensive mindset from the start, which you can understand when you are playing Chelsea away, no doubt Rafa would have been pleased with a 0-0.
Having said that we have scored more than anyone, so the fact that we kept so much distance between midfield and attack was not a good tactic. We could have learned from Wigans approach that this Chelsea team are not unbeatable. In a long season lets not get too disapointed about the odd poor performance, this team have a habit of bouncing back hard after a week like this.
Torres has been on fire, so when things dont happen for him he deserves to be cut a bit of slack. Benayouns passing made a real difference when he came on and I would have played him from the start, although history shows Rafa will always play two holding midfielders in a big 4 clash.

can't take anymore of this thread , we played Chelsea in London ffs, ok it was not what we expected (as a result ) BUT we lost only with an unlucky mistake from our best player on the pitch  and chelsea (at home )only won on counter attacks , we did not play at our best , yet we were as good as them , it just was not our day , end of
  so this my final contribution to this thread , looking forward to the next game already .YNWA

How many players do you know capable of 'dominating' Essien in midfield??

I can't think of anyone and the only player that could get the better of him over 90 mins with him in this country is Gerrard who rarely plays CM anymore.

If you can't understand why playing Benayoun and Babel against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in the starting eleven is a bad idea then there is no hope for you I am afraid.

Babel is one of the worst players in the Premier League at tracking back and given that Chelsea are naturally going to have more of the ball playing at home we would have been like lambs to the slaughter and the game might have been over by half time.

Wanting Babel to play at all is quite a frightening thought as he is simply not up to this level of football which has been proven time and time again.

I can understand why you didn't want Babel to start but whats your reason for not starting Benayoun?

It's not as simple as Gerrard or Torres having a bad day. We're missing Alonso much more than we know.
No matter who we play up front they are going to struggle because the service is not there.
Alonso got through so much work in front of the back four and more often than most he was the one receiving the ball from the likes of Carra and Skrtel.
If you remember the same game last season Alonso was outstanding for us.

Let's hope Aquilani is the player we all hope he is.

He has a serious act to follow.

Alonso wanted to leave and was sold.

Any chance you can get that in to your head? Dalglish doesn't play for us either anymore and I'm sure he would have had a cracking game yesterday.

I remember Alonso belonged to Liverpool when we drew with Hull and Stoke last season at Anfield. Didn't help us out much there did he.

Hurry the F**k up Aquilani!

Alonso wanted to leave and was sold.

Any chance you can get that in to your head? Dalglish doesn't play for us either anymore and I'm sure he would have had a cracking game yesterday.

I remember Alonso belonged to Liverpool when we drew with Hull and Stoke last season at Anfield. Didn't help us out much there did he.

Wasn't Torres injured for those?

Alonso wanted to leave and was sold.

Any chance you can get that in to your head? Dalglish doesn't play for us either anymore and I'm sure he would have had a cracking game yesterday.

I remember Alonso belonged to Liverpool when we drew with Hull and Stoke last season at Anfield. Didn't help us out much there did he.

Alonso was whored around every football club in Europe last season so we could buy that pile of sh*te Barry if you remember. It was never a case of wanting to leave, he had no choice after the way he was treated. 

Alonso was whored around every football club in Europe last season so we could buy that pile of sh*te Barry if you remember. It was never a case of wanting to leave, he had no choice after the way he was treated. 

Alonso had been underperforming for the 2 previous seasons. He had a choice, and he chose Real Madrid.

I'd hardly call his two previous seasons "underperforming". He was injured for the better part of the 06-07 season and he publicly admitted the 07-08 season had been his worse form since becoming a Liverpool player.
But he never let us down and last season he was our best player.

I missed the match, but maybe it was for the better because i would have pulled out all my hair in frustration.

Can't comment on individual performances, its so frustrating because after the match against Hull the players should have been oozing with confidence but after reading the players' thread on here, it seems not many of them were at their normal best.

I just hope the players come back from International safe and sound so they can concentrate on the league.   

Should read Paul Tomkins on LFC.TV


Brings it all into perspective.


Good article.

I know its easy to be critical after a defeat. One of our main troubles is that yes we have a half decent starting VI however if some players such as Steven, Nino, Macha are having a below par performance we do not have anyone to step into their shoes and make a difference. Our bench is incredibly weak for a club aspiring to win the title. Even when Aquillani comes into the midfield, who will be on our bench to make a difference. Unfortunately the scumbags due to rich finances have that, whilst we hope that players who have a lot to prove can do it.

Alonso was whored around every football club in Europe last season so we could buy that pile of sh*te Barry if you remember. It was never a case of wanting to leave, he had no choice after the way he was treated. 

But with the financial state the club is in are you surprised we cashed in?

Should read Paul Tomkins on LFC.TV


Brings it all into perspective.


Good article.

agreed a very good read

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/NG166002091005-0944.htm