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      October Internationals...
      Oct 05, 2009 12:59:17 pm
      England's World Cup qualifier in Ukraine on Saturday will be shown exclusively live to subscribers on the internet who will pay at least £4.99.

      All previously broadcast England matches have been available on TV.

      Kentaro - an international agency appointed by the Ukrainian Football Federation - originally sold the UK rights for the game to Setanta.

      But after the pay-TV firm collapsed, digital sport specialist Perform was appointed to stream the match online.

      The match will be shown on the website www.ukrainevengland.com and viewers will be able to subscribe to it using PayPal, the electronic payment service.

      England have already qualified for the 2010 World Cup, winning all eight of their group matches.


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      No satellite or terrestial TV coverage - it's outrageous isn't it?

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      It is understood none of the traditional broadcasters were willing to pay the asking price to screen the game, which kicks off at 1715 BST.

      But the news has angered supporters who want to watch the action on television.

      Peter Silverstone, managing director of Kentaro, told BBC Sport: "You will watch as you would any other streaming on the internet, like YouTube or the BBC iPlayer - there will be a pop-up player that will show the match in a very good quality stream."

      Former England boss Sven-Goran Eriksson is part of the studio team for the match, while Kentaro has promised "a top commentary team".


      FA does not control away rights - Bevington
      The cost of watching the game was being advertised on Monday in the Daily Express as £4.99 if viewers signed up before midnight on Wednesday.

      Charges rise to £9.99 for those who subscribe on Thursday and Friday, and £11.99 on Saturday.

      Similar prices were advertised on the website of the Daily Telegraph, which promised a "high-quality stream available on Mac and PC".

      Silverstone insisted the project was "commercially viable".

      "We have a huge marketing effort behind us with the various newspaper groups that will promote the match on their websites," he said.

      "Commercially this will work and genuinely offers an exciting opportunity for us. We wouldn't embark on this project if we didn't feel it had strategic long-term value, this isn't a one-off shot."

      Silverstone said Kentaro would take a maximum of one million subscribers for the match - which he said equates to about 2.5 million viewers - because this would be the "safe number to stop at to ensure the optimal broadcast".

      The Odeon cinema chain will show the game live throughout the country, including at their flagship cinema at Leicester Square, but the match will not be available in pubs.

      Football Association spokesman Adrian Bevington admitted: "We would obviously like to see the game broadcast to as many people as possible" but insisted the matter was out of his organisation's hands.

      "These are the rights of the Ukrainian FA and the agents they've appointed to sell them," he told BBC Sport.

      "A traditional TV platform would be ideal to broadcast the game but it's not the case. It's not in our control."

      In the future it'll probably be the reality. I think it's a good way to gauge how many people are interested

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      ITV has the rights to home England games and, under the terms of their contract, has taken over Setanta's broadcast rights for away friendlies.

      However, that aspect of the deal does not cover away qualifying games, and neither the BBC, ITV, Sky nor Channel Five made a successful bid for the match.

      Perform streamed Manchester City and Spurs matches in the Uefa Cup last year when a TV deal could not be agreed - charging about £4 per game - and Bevington insisted: "We're obviously confident in the company that has got the rights - they're a very professional company".

      However, travelling England fan Mark Perryman said the fact the match was available only on the internet was "disastrous and an outrage."

      "A World Cup qualifier should be available for everybody on free-to-air TV," Perryman told BBC Sport.
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      "It seems to me there's a very simple solution - Fifa and Uefa should insist as a condition of entry that all nations sell their games to terrestrial stations, whether its the home or away market."

      England defender Rio Ferdinand said he thought the broadcasting of the match marked "a good step forward" though.


      England web match an outrage - Perryman
      "I read that online advertising has taken over from TV, so that tells you something about where it's going in terms of the digital world," he told BBC Sport.

      "So I'm sure it'll be the way forward and in the future it'll probably be the reality. I think it's a good way to gauge how many people are interested."

      And Andrew Croker, executive chairman of Perform, insisted England fans would "embrace" the internet broadcast.

      "I think consumers are pretty sophisticated now, particularly in the UK, where we have been in the vanguard of adopting new technology," he told BBC Sport.

      "I think people want a choice - the chance to watch football in a different way. This is pioneering, very exciting and I think people will enjoy it."


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      For one I won't be paying to watch this
      « Last Edit: Oct 10, 2009 07:28:01 pm by JD »
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #1: Oct 05, 2009 01:03:37 pm
      Another rip off
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #2: Oct 05, 2009 01:04:50 pm
      I agree I'm not watching it either, well not pay to watch it anyway. £4.99 is steep, very steep. Never mind what the price goes up to on the day of the game. I would love to see the viewer figures after this match and see how many people paided to watch it.
      I think I may be checking justin.tv just before the match.
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #3: Oct 05, 2009 02:38:02 pm
      Whilst not fussed personally about this match, I do think it's outrageous to have to pay a fiver to watch your national team.
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #4: Oct 05, 2009 03:37:56 pm
      Cracking idea for them to have it online.

      Going to make it even easier to get some great free streams. ;)

      (Seriously though - I'm not hugely bothered - England are going the World Cup anyway - but I find the fact that any England 'competitive' fixture should not be on free to air broadcasters in England)
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #5: Oct 05, 2009 03:53:26 pm
      Cracking idea for them to have it online.

      Going to make it even easier to get some great free streams. ;)

      (Seriously though - I'm not hugely bothered - England are going the World Cup anyway - but I find the fact that any England 'competitive' fixture should not be on free to air broadcasters in England)


      Only problem is some of these free streams might get a lawsuit on their hands if they show it
      « Last Edit: Oct 05, 2009 10:13:07 pm by MsGerrard, Reason: Fixed your quote. »
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #6: Oct 05, 2009 06:20:26 pm
      Good. Another excuse for me to avoid it.
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #7: Oct 05, 2009 08:03:49 pm
      For all those who want to watch this game but can not, I have 1 word for you "RADIO", we used to use it in the old days, actually it was a "WIRELESS" back then. :lmao: let your imagination work for a change., that word again RADIO.

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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #8: Oct 05, 2009 08:57:45 pm
      So? Its England. You couldnt even pay ME a fiver to watch it.
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #9: Oct 05, 2009 08:59:10 pm
      £5? What a F***ing joke.

      Just show it on terrestrial for F**k's sake.
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #10: Oct 05, 2009 09:14:52 pm
      Every game should be on BBC, the f***in money they make off the TV license.
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #11: Oct 05, 2009 10:08:40 pm
      Apparently if you've got an internet account with Bet365 you can watch it on their site for free.

      Not too fussed. Won't be watching it.
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #12: Oct 05, 2009 10:09:17 pm
      Charge to watch an England game ? no chance of me watching it then ! there is so much money going into the national team it should be broadcast live every game free! i do feel sorry for the poor sods who pay at the gate to watch an England game and they put in a couldn't give a damn performance .bloody cheek !
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #13: Oct 05, 2009 10:13:25 pm
      I've got better things to do than watch England in a pointless match, but I still have to say what a F***ing joke this is.
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      Reply #14: Oct 05, 2009 10:15:01 pm
      I wonder how many people will actually pay to watch it? What's the population of London again?  ;)
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      Reply #15: Oct 05, 2009 10:15:10 pm
      Every game should be on BBC, the f***in money they make off the TV license.

      Couldn't agree more, what the hell are we paying our licence fee for if we can't watch these sort of games.

      Disgraceful.
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      Reply #16: Oct 05, 2009 10:21:36 pm
      It was the Ukraine Gov that set the value and even Sky wouldn't meet it...so it must have been well beyond BBC etc
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      Reply #17: Oct 05, 2009 10:22:24 pm
      I wonder how many people will actually pay to watch it? What's the population of London again?  ;)

      Just rang old trafford and asked them.

      They said about 67 thousand.
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #18: Oct 05, 2009 10:36:07 pm
      Just rang old trafford and asked them.

      They said about 67 thousand.

      After they told you it was a local shop for local people?
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      Reply #19: Oct 05, 2009 10:40:21 pm
      Heard about this being screened in Odeon this morning in Film Studies funnily enough.  Noted it down as a point for the advantages for the cinema.

      But you won't see me F***ing going.  Stick your qualifier England.
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      Re: England game Internet only!!!
      Reply #20: Oct 05, 2009 11:04:58 pm
      Not arsed really, would only prob watch it on BBC if nowt else on in the pub  ;) ;D
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      Reply #21: Oct 05, 2009 11:46:24 pm
      Not arsed really, would only prob watch it on BBC if nowt else on in the pub  ;) ;D

      That's a thing. I wonder how many pubs will have it on then?
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      Reply #22: Oct 05, 2009 11:54:06 pm
      That's the point it's not aired anywhere but the net......no pubs can broadcast it

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