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      Wenger attacks Rafa criticism
      Oct 23, 2009 08:59:16 pm
      Wenger attacks Rafa criticism

       Arsene Wenger believes the criticism levelled at under-fire Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez is undeserved and "excessive".

      The Reds are in their worst run of form for 22 years, with four defeats in the Barclays Premier League already, and face a crunch clash at leaders Manchester United on Sunday lunchtime.

      Arsenal manager Wenger, though, feels the Spaniard - who won the Champions League against AC Milan in 2005, and reached the final again two years later - should be given more respect for what he has achieved.

      "It is always excessive," said Wenger, who himself received plenty of flak when the Gunners struggled for consistency this time last season.

      "We are, with a big club, in a job where you know that the moment the team goes through a difficult period, you get more stick than you should.

      "But we know in our job as well that it is all part of it.

      "I feel sorry that he gets that because he does not deserve it.

      "But we all basically understand within this job, that it is part of the rules."

      Wenger last secured a trophy with the FA Cup in 2005.

      The Gunners boss, though, believes managers of big clubs must be capable of dealing with unfavourable questioning.

      "In a big club, you need to be extremely strong because you get a lot of negative vibes," he added.

      "When you do not start well in the race for the Premier League, it's all negative around you.

      "What is happening to Liverpool today happened to us last year.

      "Every single question is negative for the whole season.

      "You need to be extremely strong inside the club to deal with that."

      http://msn.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5646848,00.html

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      Re: Wenger attacks Rafa criticism
      Reply #1: Oct 23, 2009 09:02:21 pm
      Wenger a manager i have the utmost respect for
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      Reply #2: Oct 23, 2009 09:04:05 pm
      Usually I don't.

      However I have much much more respect after reading that.
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      Reply #3: Oct 23, 2009 09:08:00 pm
      Wenger is a good manager at a good club,and I'm glad to see him supporting Rafa unlike the gobsh*te at the other end of the East Lancs road.
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      Reply #4: Oct 23, 2009 09:20:14 pm
      Is he only coming out with ths as we are playing against his best mate on Sunday?
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      Reply #5: Oct 23, 2009 09:20:34 pm
      Wenger isn't talking out of his arse(ne) for once.

      I think Arsenal got a lot of undeserved flak last year, and now we are getting stick as well (although some of it is deserved, tbh).
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      Reply #6: Oct 23, 2009 09:20:40 pm
      Let's thrash him in the Carling Cup.
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      Re: Wenger attacks Rafa criticism
      Reply #7: Oct 23, 2009 09:31:00 pm
      I still don't like Wenger, but at least he is talking some sense.
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      Reply #8: Oct 23, 2009 09:31:09 pm
      Good to see, never been a big fan of his but nice to get a bit of support. Now lets smash them in the Cup.
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      Reply #9: Oct 23, 2009 10:47:34 pm
      As the press say an intelligent man proving so with an absolutely spot on view on things.
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      Reply #10: Oct 23, 2009 11:06:10 pm
      Stunned that he has publicly backed Rafa but fair play to him
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      Reply #11: Oct 24, 2009 02:01:42 am
      Gone up a bit in my estimations.

      He has suffered a lot at the hands of the media and everyone slating him and calling for his head so good of him to say what he has.

      But still, let's hammer Arsenal!
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      Reply #12: Oct 24, 2009 02:17:07 am
      Surprised he actually saw the criticism in the papers!

      On a serious note though, I do respect Wenger, especially now that he's publicly backed Rafa. Good man. Hope you had a good birthday.
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      Re: Wenger attacks Rafa criticism
      Reply #13: Oct 24, 2009 05:19:31 am
      Always had some amount of respect for Wenger. This certainly increases my respect for him.

      still, go Liverpool and thrash Arsenal in our upcoming fixtures with them.  :laugh:
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      Reply #14: Oct 24, 2009 10:27:42 am
      Theres two sides to look at this, Taking into consideration Wenger has not won a trophy since 2005 he can hardly be critical of Rafa as in a sense then he is criticising his own failures as a manager of a top 4 side.

      How ever I would like to think Wenger is a decent intellectual bloke and a lot of the things he has said do ring true, regardless of the media and so called fans who call for Rafa's head the minute we have a run of poor form, its good to see one of our Rivals managers speaking up on Rafa's behalf with a well thought out knowledgeable opinion that shows his respect for Rafa and what he has a achieved here.
      « Last Edit: Oct 24, 2009 10:59:46 am by RedLFCBlood »
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      Reply #15: Oct 24, 2009 01:25:06 pm
      Isnt it strange though that last year it was Wenger and Arsenal getting the stick and now it's our turn with Rafa, I personally commend Arsene for sticking up for a fellow manager not in a dissimilar position to ours, I wonder who it will be next season?? Sparky at Man shitty, L ancelloti at the Chavs, Or even Dirty Harry at Spurs, One things for sure it wont be the F**k wit up the East lancs Rd will it?    Very strange indeed!!

      Anyway, Well said Arsene, But we're still gonna stuff ya in the Carling cup.

      YNWA     IRWT
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      Reply #16: Oct 24, 2009 01:28:43 pm
      well fair dues to him can't wait to thrash his 12 year olds though:)
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      Reply #17: Oct 24, 2009 01:58:44 pm
      Stunned that he has publicly backed Rafa but fair play to him
      My sentiments exactally , Brian.
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      Re: Wenger attacks Rafa criticism
      Reply #18: Oct 24, 2009 02:43:11 pm
      Good on yer Arsene.

      Not very often that another manager comes out and publicly backs Rafa so nice one :)
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      Reply #19: Oct 24, 2009 03:49:59 pm
      Well said Wenger! I do respect him in sense of his footballing philosophy but no hard feelings when beat you next time in Carling Cup.
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      Reply #20: Oct 24, 2009 04:55:22 pm
      I have always respected the man and his opinions ,he speaks his mind and there are similarities to be drawn with our own manager. Wenger will persevere with what he believes to be right and can at times be open to accusations of stubbornness , he is a strict disciplinarian and is known for confronting players over seemingly trivial matters that to his mantra are not acceptable. These are aspects of management common to both men and I have no doubt Mr Benitez will appreciate these comments from Arsene Wenger.
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      Reply #21: Oct 24, 2009 07:54:20 pm
      Glad to hear support for Rafa from a fellow manager and he went through the same last season,at least Rafa can lend him a shoulder to cry on when we knock them out the cup.
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      Reply #22: Oct 24, 2009 08:00:54 pm
      Very true. Just shows how fickle fans can be.

      Last season Wenger was an idiot, and I think it was in the Tomkins piece about O'Neill and the Villa fans.

      You really cannot start or end a season poorly these days, or have a dodgy patch in the middle, without everyone calling for your head.
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      Reply #23: Oct 24, 2009 08:40:36 pm
      Got a lot of time for Wenger but his last trophy was a while before Benitez.  And with the firm financial footing Arsenal have - he has had the opportunity to spend which he hasn't taken.

      The media give Arsene a far easier ride than Benitez.
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      Reply #24: Oct 24, 2009 08:44:42 pm
      Got a lot of time for Wenger but his last trophy was a while before Benitez.  And with the firm financial footing Arsenal have - he has had the opportunity to spend which he hasn't taken.

      The media give Arsene a far easier ride than Benitez.

      Very true, they have gotten their new stadium and all that as well and still no trophy since the week before Benitez got his first. It's always about the kids at Arsenal though, they are always an "up and coming" side in the view of the media.. been that way for 4-5 years!!

      Still, good on him for saying what he did. He didn't have to say that, so well in.
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      Reply #25: Oct 24, 2009 09:58:34 pm
      The words of one of the best managers in the world.

      If we didnt have Rafa id have him.
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      Reply #26: Nov 04, 2009 03:21:27 pm
      Don't know if this has been posted already. Wenger defends Rafa again.

      http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N166328091104-1336.htm

      WENGER: BENITEZ IS A 'SUPER MANAGER'

      Arsene Wenger today labelled Rafa Benitez a 'super manager' as the Liverpool boss looks to revive our Champions League campaign in Lyon.
      The Arsenal chief was quizzed on Liverpool's mixed start to the season which has left them needing victory in France tonight to get back into Group E contention.
       
      Wenger pointed to Benitez's superb record in management as proof he was the right man to turn Liverpool's campaign around.
       
      "Rafa Benitez is a super manager," said the Frenchman.
       
      "We live in a world where democratic judgment is only in the present, and that's why it's very important to have directors who are strong enough to resist, as well to explain why they resist."
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      Reply #27: Nov 04, 2009 03:28:22 pm
      Ive only just come across this thread and I do admit I do have a lot of respect for what Arsene has done with Arsenal on a whole, nice sentiments from him though too!
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      Reply #28: Nov 04, 2009 03:50:38 pm
      Well said Arsene. I think, he is in a position to understand Rafa's situation and that's how he said something really sensible. Respect.
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      Reply #29: Nov 04, 2009 03:53:50 pm
      Could you imagine Fergie saying that? Not in a million years :D

      You would of thought Wenger would take the piss out of Rafa after them beating us. But I guess he isn't as bitter as I first thought.

      Well said Wenger.
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      Reply #30: Nov 04, 2009 05:14:09 pm
      Respect for Arsene and Arsenal., I've always have.
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      Reply #31: Nov 04, 2009 05:32:00 pm
      + Respect for Wenger.

      He may be a moaner, but he's a very respectable man.

      If he was on the forum I'd plus him for that, then neg him for his selective blindness ;)
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      Reply #32: Nov 04, 2009 06:01:18 pm
      Interesting that he's sticking up for Rafa, then again the pair haven't really ever had any disputes.

      I noticed before the Carling Cup game they seemed very friendly with each other.

      To be honest I never liked Wenger - but this year, it's not just because of this, but in general he has seemingly become a better person/more honest manager.

      Has anyone else thought that or just me?
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      Reply #33: Nov 04, 2009 06:48:40 pm
      Interesting that he's sticking up for Rafa, then again the pair haven't really ever had any disputes.

      I noticed before the Carling Cup game they seemed very friendly with each other.

      To be honest I never liked Wenger - but this year, it's not just because of this, but in general he has seemingly become a better person/more honest manager.

      Has anyone else thought that or just me?
      He is only affable because his team are winning wait till they get beat
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      Reply #34: Nov 04, 2009 07:29:27 pm
      Good to hear him back Rafa and comes from someone who knows what he is talking about.
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      Reply #35: Nov 06, 2009 09:51:32 am
      Even before such complimentary comments i generally thought of him as a decent bloke and good manager..  Nice wun dawg. Ayudat!!

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