As a Besiktas fan I can talk about this stuff all day.if you remember the match against bjk in istanbul,that madness was a normal reaction of fans for bjk fans.also among other Turk fans.and if its an international game;fans get madder.In here we cant even watch the match sitting.because everyone stands up,jumps and stuff..so 'those mentals are curious about silent,noble english fans' anyway I envy you.at least you can sit.
Thought they had a new ground though, I thought that Ali Sen Yen stadium had been bulldozed, could be wrong like.
Ali sami yen hadnt been bulldozed and Türk Telekom Arena will not be ok before 2011.I think it'll be built in 2028.there are some money problems and stuff
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