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      Roy Hodgson Targets British Players

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      Re: Roy Hodgson Targets British Players
      Reply #46: Jul 06, 2010 02:46:12 am
      I would rather see some young English talent brought in (just like Shelvey and Sterling).
      Exactly!
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      Reply #47: Jul 06, 2010 03:17:22 am
      So our ambitions are a top 4 place,and you expect it with the likes of Shelvey.Time to get a grip.Our Ressies are foll of potential stars,but they need to develop
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      Reply #48: Jul 06, 2010 11:01:56 am

      In light of the new ruling regarding home grown players, how about Danny Murphy?

      I watched him last season against United and he absolutely ran the show and it wasn't a one off. 

      Dare I say it, he is becoming more and more like Gary McAllister every year (and I'm not referring to his hairline).
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      Reply #49: Jul 06, 2010 11:10:38 am
      In light of the new ruling regarding home grown players, how about Danny Murphy?

      I watched him last season against United and he absolutely ran the show and it wasn't a one off.  

      Dare I say it, he is becoming more and more like Gary McAllister every year (and I'm not referring to his hairline).

      How about not!!

      Danny was an ok midfielder, but hardly world class, was replaced with a real world class player back in 2004, now rather than trying to improve the team, you want to go back and re-sign a player who is no better than we have now and we have plenty of central midfielders.
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      Reply #50: Jul 06, 2010 11:27:00 am
      British players mostly are over-rated and over-priced.

      Milner - £30m....for a hard working carthorse.

      And we only want £30m for Mash....off topic I know but kinda proves my point.

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      Reply #51: Jul 06, 2010 12:47:47 pm
      British players mostly are over-rated and over-priced.

      Milner - £30m....for a hard working carthorse.

      And we only want £30m for Mash....off topic I know but kinda proves my point.


      to be fair milner is only quoted at 30m because man city want him!
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      Reply #52: Jul 06, 2010 01:30:04 pm
      So what British players would you take?
      Or who do you think we could afford/actually get?
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      Reply #53: Jul 06, 2010 01:33:57 pm
      to be fair milner is only quoted at 30m because man city want him!

      And thats my point - over-rated and over priced.

      If we went in for say Scott Parker he would be quoted around £10m, Gary Cahill £15m, Carlton Cole was quoted at £12m at the end of last season.....too much for players who are average at best.

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      Reply #54: Jul 06, 2010 02:28:11 pm
      Roy Hodgson has revealed British players will be a top priority when it comes to bolstering Liverpool's squad this summer.
      Excellent news.

      I'm sure we're all aware how United and Chelsea really reached the heights of the Premier League with all their British players.

      And who could forget England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland's terrific World Cup campaigns.

      In light of the new ruling regarding home grown players, how about Danny Murphy?
      I'm fairly sure the players clean their own boots these days.
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      Reply #55: Jul 06, 2010 02:33:25 pm
      Excellent news.

      I'm sure we're all aware how United and Chelsea really reached the heights of the Premier League with all their British players.

      And who could forget England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland's terrific World Cup campaigns.
      I'm fairly sure the players clean their own boots these days.

      Very dry as always - made me laugh that...!!
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      Reply #56: Jul 06, 2010 03:52:23 pm

       We have a massive squad that needs trimming. As for the players I named it is down to opinion isnt it and I respect your opinion. Which of those I named would you keep. Degan Plessis and El Zhar offer nothing, Lucas is nowhere near Liverpool standard, Riera just moans in the press and offers nothing on the pitch and Kuyt' 2nd touch is always a tackle. I like Dirk, but he is a striker. If Hodgson does not want to play him as a striker we may as well cash in as Maxi or babel can play on the right or even johnson. If Hodgson wants to play him upfront and work on his game, his first touch for example then keep him and strenghen somewhere else.

      Woh, hold up their, all the players you mention some should go like Deagan and Pessis(to lightweight)not sure about El Zhar, but I don't agree about Lucas, if we are to function this season we need a holding player of his quality, yes I did say quality, it's just he's 23 and still learning, this year just could be his year so I would definitely give Lucas a little more time. Riera has shot his bolt and for all his quality he must go. Now the one you don't mind moving on is kuyt, a bad mistake that in anyone's language take Kuyt away from this team and then watch us function we'll end up looking like a one legged team. Kuyt gives us energy and yes I know his second touch isn't always the best but his first touch is sometimes very good and how many times has he scored the goal that matters, and why, because he hates losing and someone like that in your team is priceless. I like seeing Kuyt in midfield that way he covers more and he's so good at box to box, he gets everywhere and a guy like that you let go at your own peril, and you know your team will be haunted by such a mistake.
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      Reply #57: Jul 06, 2010 04:25:48 pm
      How about not!!

      Danny was an ok midfielder, but hardly world class, was replaced with a real world class player back in 2004, now rather than trying to improve the team, you want to go back and re-sign a player who is no better than we have now and we have plenty of central midfielders.

      no better than we have now??

      Benayoun is gone, we're still stuck with Lucas, Aquilani can't cut it, Kuyt is not good enough... I think Murphy would be a better option than every single one of those and they will probably be our regular starters for next season.
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      Reply #58: Jul 06, 2010 04:41:35 pm
      Excellent news.

      I'm sure we're all aware how United and Chelsea really reached the heights of the Premier League with all their British players.

      And who could forget England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland's terrific World Cup campaigns.
      I'm fairly sure the players clean their own boots these days.

      It's all about encouraging them and supporting them. England is in a brilliant position to take advantage of its youth but the Premier League don't care about young English talent. And why do we have useless cack like Degan, Plessis and El Zhar when those places could go to young British players who I'm sure we'd all agree could do a better job than the players mentioned.
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      Reply #59: Jul 06, 2010 04:43:37 pm
      no better than we have now??

      Benayoun is gone, we're still stuck with Lucas, Aquilani can't cut it, Kuyt is not good enough... I think Murphy would be a better option than every single one of those and they will probably be our regular starters for next season.

      I suppose everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if they are wrong. I disagree with you about two of those players and the other one, as far as I'm concerned is on a par with Murphy.
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      Reply #60: Jul 06, 2010 04:43:52 pm
      Didn't read them all.  But I believe insua classes as homegrown or very soon classed as homegrown.  His been with us for years.

      We need to pull a arsenal, buy a bunch of talent from abroard.  You get them at 18 and younger, then at 21 they will be homegrown. 
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      Reply #61: Jul 06, 2010 04:47:08 pm
      no better than we have now??

      Benayoun is gone, we're still stuck with Lucas, Aquilani can't cut it, Kuyt is not good enough... I think Murphy would be a better option than every single one of those and they will probably be our regular starters for next season.
      You jest of course....caught sight of your karma tho and you're probably serious.
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      Reply #62: Jul 06, 2010 04:50:09 pm
      If you're trained at a club for 3 years before 21 years old, you can be classified as home grown. I think Insua turns 21 this year and he was already with us since he was 18. Cesc Fabregas is classified as home grown since moving to Arsenal at 16.

      I actually think having British players would do good for the club. It would be even better if they all came through the academy. For example, Barcelona's team consists of players that came through their academy. Only thing is, there are probably not many good British players at the moment. Even if there were any, they are probably overpriced.
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      Reply #63: Jul 07, 2010 02:36:58 am
      I actually think having British players would do good for the club. It would be even better if they all came through the academy. For example, Barcelona's team consists of players that came through their academy. Only thing is, there are probably not many good British players at the moment. Even if there were any, they are probably overpriced.
      A club creates youth to some extend, there's plenty of talent in any country but you need to scout and mould them. Barcelona don't produce these creative technical players by accident, it's because every single one of their teams from the youth up plays creative technical attacking football in similar formations, and their training is focussed on that too. They're doing the same as what Ajax used to do. Not a surprise Cruyff has been heavily involved in both of their academies. You're not going to produce players like Iniesta, Sneijder or even Ozil unless you create an environment where players are inspired to be creative.
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      Reply #64: Jul 07, 2010 11:17:30 am
      Home-grown players are defined as having been registered for at least three seasons at an England or Welsh club between the ages of 16 and 21.

      This whole, ill-conceived, home-grown rule baffles the F***ing b'jaysus out of me.  :-\

      Let's look at young Jack Robinson, for example: English born, but because he's only 17 in September and hasn't been registered for at least three seasons isn't home-grown. What the F**k?

      What Roy is saying is that he would like as many of that 25 man squad to be over 21. To do this he needs more "senior", home-grown players. How the F**k that encourages youth development, i don't know.

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      Reply #65: Jul 07, 2010 03:56:31 pm
      This whole, ill-conceived, home-grown rule baffles the F***ing b'jaysus out of me.  :-\

      Let's look at young Jack Robinson, for example: English born, but because he's only 17 in September and hasn't been registered for at least three seasons isn't home-grown. What the F**k?

      What Roy is saying is that he would like as many of that 25 man squad to be over 21. To do this he needs more "senior", home-grown players. How the F**k that encourages youth development, i don't know.



      There is another part of the rules that deals with this, you can have as many players as you want under the age of 21.  They don't need to be registered as part of the squad in the same way.
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      Reply #66: Jul 07, 2010 11:37:22 pm
      Fair play Bubba i see your point, but yeh there is that Roddenberry, that's on FM ;)

      Which Brit's would you take?
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      Reply #67: Jul 08, 2010 12:44:06 am
      Roy Hodgson Targets British Players!! Crazy b***ard! quick, someone phone the fuzz :f_tongueincheek:
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      Reply #68: Jul 08, 2010 10:43:56 am
      There is another part of the rules that deals with this, you can have as many players as you want under the age of 21.  They don't need to be registered as part of the squad in the same way.

      Yeah 'berry, i know.  :-\

      I was just pointing out that Jack, for example, can't be considered home-grown and therefore (instead of adding him to the 25) we must look to buy someone who is. Now just how that encourages "youth development" F**k only knows.

      I'll explain my point another way: if Jack was allowed to be included in the 25 we could spend what little we have on a "foreign" player who wasn't over-priced but every bit as talented as an English/home-grown player. I really couldn't give a flying F**k if Eng-er-land win the 2022 World Cup to be honest.




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