NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

As posted many times bunch of skinflints won't compete under there ownership

We cannot spend money we haven't got ... or are people saying that the owners should do what Leeds did and gamble heavily on several high profile signings?

We do not have the money to compete with the likes of Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc

FSG are doing a lot to close that gap and statistically the gap is closing.

The club sat on its arse in the 1990s and did nothing to tap into global revenue streams until about ten years after those clubs started. So, while we have similar global fan-bases to Madrid, Man Utd etc, we are still playing catch up because of what happened 20-25 years ago.

FSG are about long-term sustainability - it's exactly what we need and what we should be doing.

https://twitter.com/chrismoore32/status/957380424212369408

This says it all.. the culmination of almost a decade of FSG ownership.. how people can still defend them I will never know.

 

To a certain extent we as fans we bring it on ourselves,dismiss the league cup as a mickey mouse cup,the shine has gone off the fa cup and we should concentrate on getting the top 4 gets banged out on a regular bases,then when we get knocked of said cups people cry about not winning cups anymore.And don't forget we had a good 60 odd year run of not winning the fa cup.It's F***ing sh*te that we aren't gonna win a domestic cup again but it ain't just down to the corporate side of the club.

We cannot spend money we haven't got ... or are people saying that the owners should do what Leeds did and gamble heavily on several high profile signings?

We do not have the money to compete with the likes of Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc

FSG are doing a lot to close that gap and statistically the gap is closing.

The club sat on its arse in the 1990s and did nothing to tap into global revenue streams until about ten years after those clubs started. So, while we have similar global fan-bases to Madrid, Man Utd etc, we are still playing catch up because of what happened 20-25 years ago.

FSG are about long-term sustainability - it's exactly what we need and what we should be doing.

Well we either have £142m or about £20m change after VVD and Naby......

So it’s either not spending or sell to buy......FSG apologists need to make their mind up.

*not aimed directly at you, in general.

The club sat on its arse in the 1990s and did nothing to tap into global revenue streams until about ten years after those clubs started. So, while we have similar global fan-bases to Madrid, Man Utd etc, we are still playing catch up because of what happened 20-25 years ago.

FSG are about long-term sustainability - it's exactly what we need and what we should be doing.

True.

Mr Moores and Mr Parry .   May we just remind you ...lest we forget.

True.

Mr Moores and Mr Parry .   May we just remind you ...lest we forget.

Yeah let's forget the treble in 2001 and Istanbul in 2005.

Know what I'd prefer.

We cannot spend money we haven't got ... or are people saying that the owners should do what Leeds did and gamble heavily on several high profile signings?

We do not have the money to compete with the likes of Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc

FSG are doing a lot to close that gap and statistically the gap is closing.

The club sat on its arse in the 1990s and did nothing to tap into global revenue streams until about ten years after those clubs started. So, while we have similar global fan-bases to Madrid, Man Utd etc, we are still playing catch up because of what happened 20-25 years ago.

FSG are about long-term sustainability - it's exactly what we need and what we should be doing.

How about the Trophy gap? Or is that not important?
Tell me one thing FSG have done that wasn't for their own benefit.

We cannot spend money we haven't got ... or are people saying that the owners should do what Leeds did and gamble heavily on several high profile signings?

We do not have the money to compete with the likes of Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc

FSG are doing a lot to close that gap and statistically the gap is closing.

The club sat on its arse in the 1990s and did nothing to tap into global revenue streams until about ten years after those clubs started. So, while we have similar global fan-bases to Madrid, Man Utd etc, we are still playing catch up because of what happened 20-25 years ago.

FSG are about long-term sustainability - it's exactly what we need and what we should be doing.

We got £142 million for Coutinho, so if we're self-sustainable, shouldn't that money be put back into the transfer kitty?

We cannot spend money we haven't got ... or are people saying that the owners should do what Leeds did and gamble heavily on several high profile signings?

We do not have the money to compete with the likes of Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc

FSG are doing a lot to close that gap and statistically the gap is closing.

The club sat on its arse in the 1990s and did nothing to tap into global revenue streams until about ten years after those clubs started. So, while we have similar global fan-bases to Madrid, Man Utd etc, we are still playing catch up because of what happened 20-25 years ago.

FSG are about long-term sustainability - it's exactly what we need and what we should be doing.

Deary me.

This is the biggest load of FSG apologist sh*te I've read since Swab stopped posting.

In fact...

Deary me.

This is the biggest load of FSG apologist sh*te I've read since Swab stopped posting.

In fact...

Yep we can only spend what we earn......except for £142m which we can spend but it’s just that Jürgen does “no spend” January OR actually that we have already 🤷‍♂️ because it’s “sell to buy”.

Clear as mud. What the f**k?!

Getting bored with some of the denial of the facts - getting like the “flat earth” society....,,

From the man who proved to be close to the VVD deal when Pearce, Joyce and Reddy weren't saying sh*t

https://twitter.com/RealKevinPalmer/status/957389454100049922

Providing the club is growing in value, and the Premier League is too, no one in FSG genuinely cares if Liverpool are competing for league and Champions League. Sure, it'd be nice. It'd be a bonus. It'd bring in a few more dollars in commercial revenue.

But Liverpool being the dominant side in England, which I assume all Liverpool fans ultimately want, is not the overall objective of these owners.

Keeping Liverpool in the 'Arsenal' zone is their business and hoping for some good luck and good management to bridge the gap is the best we can hope for.

Investing adequately, more than the pathetic sub £15m net spends, is a cost benefit calculation that FSG figure isn't worth it. It's clear to see.

I think Jürgen Klipp wants to win the league for Liverpool.

But everyone else at boardroom and ownership level?

I bet the first item on the agenda for them and the financials. The football is secondary and as a result, Liverpool remain second best.

How about the Trophy gap? Or is that not important?
Tell me one thing FSG have done that wasn't for their own benefit.

Winning trophies will come - but my point was that we are not yet in a position to be as competitive in the transfer market as those top clubs.

I don't get the FSG / Own benefit point. As owners of the club, everything they do with the club will be for their own benefit. However what they have done is a number of things that will continue to benefit the club if / when they pass ownership on to someone else: the additional seats at Anfield - those will still be there after they have gone; the newly-revamped club stores will still be there; as will the upgrades they're planning to Melwood / the Academy.

We got £142 million for Coutinho, so if we're self-sustainable, shouldn't that money be put back into the transfer kitty?

I don't know how much is in the transfer kitty (and neither do any of us on here).

The point I was making is that I would rather the club spent within its means (whatever that might be) and did not overspend and leave us in a position similar to Leeds.

Statistically we are closing the gap on the richest clubs - this is not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact - so we are getting closer to the point where we can go out and spend the sort of money that Barcelona / Man Uts etc can currently spend

From the man who proved to be close to the VVD deal when Pearce, Joyce and Reddy weren't saying sh*t

https://twitter.com/RealKevinPalmer/status/957389454100049922

Like nightclub bouncers when it gets busy, one in one out.

It's the FSG way.

Winning trophies will come - but my point was that we are not yet in a position to be as competitive in the transfer market as those top clubs.

You make it sound as if we’re f**king Portsmouth. We are one of the richest clubs in the world. We might not be able to compete for a 500k a week Sanchez, but we certainly shouldn’t be operating a sell to buy policy and an average net spend of 15mill per window.

About those trophies...any idea when they will come, because I’m getting pretty f**king impatient hearing that 10 years down the line.

Providing the club is growing in value, and the Premier League is too, no one in FSG genuinely cares if Liverpool are competing for league and Champions League. Sure, it'd be nice. It'd be a bonus. It'd bring in a few more dollars in commercial revenue.

The value of a club and its commercial revenue are inextricably linked: on-field success will raise the value of the club enormously. It is absolutely in FSG's best interests of the team to succeed and win trophies.

You make it sound as if we’re f**king Portsmouth, we are one of the richest clubs in the world. We might not be able to compete for a 500k a week Sanchez, but we certainly shouldn’t be operating a sell to buy policy and an average net spend of 15mill per window.

About those trophies...any idea when they will come, because I’m getting pretty f**king impatient hearing that 10 years down the line.

Hey mate stay patient. Just another 7 years more.

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Just to clear up any confusion, I liked that by accident.

Hey mate stay patient. Just another 7 years more.

Maybe by that point we will have pushed the boat out to 25 mill net spend a window.

Of course our rivals will all be hitting 120mill plus at that point, but at least we will win the net spend league that we never dreamt of...

You make it sound as if we’re f**king Portsmouth, we are one of the richest clubs in the world. We might not be able to compete for a 500k a week Sanchez, but we certainly shouldn’t be operating a sell to buy policy and an average net spend of 15mill per window.

About those trophies...any idea when they will come, because I’m getting pretty f**king impatient hearing that 10 years down the line.

We're in the top 10 richest clubs but we aren't at the top ... Man Utd are. With the work that FSG are doing we will be able to compete for a £500k per week player - that's the long-term goal and we are getting closer to that reality.

Fully agree with you about the trophies - I'd love us to be winning more too

You make it sound as if we’re f**king Portsmouth. We are one of the richest clubs in the world. We might not be able to compete for a 500k a week Sanchez, but we certainly shouldn’t be operating a sell to buy policy and an average net spend of 15mill per window.

About those trophies...any idea when they will come, because I’m getting pretty f**king impatient hearing that 10 years down the line.

Liverpool are "willing to wait " for trophies, a natural extension of the hugely successful transfer policy of pretending you may be ambitious...but just not yet.

Deary me.

This is the biggest load of FSG apologist sh*te I've read since Swab stopped posting.

In fact...

This is so simplistic ... why is it so difficult for you to engage in grown-up, meaningful, discussion?