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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      billythered
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26703: Feb 21, 2021 12:43:12 pm
      There's no point FSG leaving until we have a football loving billionaire lined up to buy us.
      More importantly we need the manager that can make the best out of whatever budget the owners give him, and we already have that guy.
      I would definitely worry about the future after JĆ¼rgen leaves. I can't see another manager that could replace Klopp and achieve the same success under FSG.





      Well you donā€™t have to worry for another 3 years yet mate by which time we will have won No 20, No 7 & No 21, a statue of gold will have been commissioned of course and the new Kop expansion will be named after him The Klopp Kop, he will be appointed free man of the City & Toffees everywhere men & women will be forced to  bow & Courtsey before him.


      Arise Sir JĆ¼rgen !



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      Reply #26704: Feb 21, 2021 04:57:41 pm
      We are fu**ed under our current owners, won't speed we're run as a business for profit and are unable to compete with City, Chelsea, United and and now even Everton who can all outspend Liverpool, Klopp has worked wonders with the first team but with the horrendous injuries we have had our squad is so weak we are falling away from the top teams. I would hate to think what would happen if Klopp left
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      Reply #26705: Feb 21, 2021 06:44:45 pm
      We are fu**ed under our current owners, won't speed we're run as a business for profit and are unable to compete with City, Chelsea, United and and now even Everton who can all outspend Liverpool, Klopp has worked wonders with the first team but with the horrendous injuries we have had our squad is so weak we are falling away from the top teams. I would hate to think what would happen if Klopp left


      ā€œRun as a business for profitā€ ?


      Which profit is that because any ā€œprofitā€ is used by the club to buy players

      Have you even bothered to read the accounts


      Why do people continue to try and compare our spending to 1. Two clubs who spend oil billions and 2. One club that is run on leveraging debt against the club ?


      And Evertons spending will be debt against the club which will need to be balanced out
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      Reply #26706: Feb 21, 2021 06:48:39 pm
      They decided we needed a whole f**king summer without signing a player.

      Then we sign one striker to cover three positions.

      We sign Thiago and no centre back cover.

      We then get to Jan and they point blank refuse to sign anyone or back the manager. We then have our glass defender get injured for the season and they go and buy a bundesliga basement buy and a league two nobody.

      We have to watch our centre mids play centre back.

      We have no one to replace our sh*t front three with.

      We have no quality right back replacement.

      They make us loan out a striker to cover a loaned in defender then guess what, that striker is f**king banging them in at the new club whilst we're still stuck with Firmino who couldn't score against a girls U8's B team

      I actually completely agree with you. You canā€™t expect Klopp to keep performing miracles when the squad is decimated and the owners literally couldnā€™t give two hoots. The club is a multi billion dollar asset. Surely that alone is enough to warrant a bit of Lea way with a bank or two in regards to quality signings...

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      Reply #26707: Feb 21, 2021 06:52:38 pm

      ā€œRun as a business for profitā€ ?


      Which profit is that because any ā€œprofitā€ is used by the club to buy players

      Have you even bothered to read the accounts


      Why do people continue to try and compare our spending to 1. Two clubs who spend oil billions and 2. One club that is run on leveraging debt against the club ?


      And Evertons spending will be debt against the club which will need to be balanced out

      Sell to buy is not a conducive way to run a top level football club. At some point, investment is needed. Itā€™s a multi billion dollar club FFS. Shouldnā€™t be a case of consistently sell our top players to bring in new blood. Yes, it has worked to a point with VVD and Allison bought off the PC money. But in a time of need, such as this season, quality additions were needed.

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      Reply #26708: Feb 21, 2021 06:54:11 pm
      Sell to buy is not a conducive way to run a top level football club. At some point, investment is needed. Itā€™s a multi billion dollar club FFS. Shouldnā€™t be a case of consistently sell our top players to bring in new blood. Yes, it has worked to a point with VVD and Allison bought off the PC money. But in a time of need, such as this season, quality additions were needed.


      The club donā€™t run on a ā€œsell to buyā€ policy

      Do you understand the finances and model of the club ? Where are you expecting the money to come from


      The club have spent a lot of money on players
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      Reply #26709: Feb 21, 2021 06:56:31 pm
      Just look at how Sterling has developed since the owners got 50m for him. Iā€™m sure had he known JC was incoming, he would have stayed.

      Heā€™s banging in goals left, right and centre and is surely one of the best attacking players in world football right now, but 50m was too good to turn down...
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      Reply #26710: Feb 21, 2021 06:58:29 pm
      Just look at how Sterling has developed since the owners got 50m for him. Iā€™m sure had he known JC was incoming, he would have stayed.

      Heā€™s banging in goals left, right and centre and is surely one of the best attacking players in world football right now, but 50m was too good to turn down...


      Sterling wanted to leave - he wasnā€™t interested in staying the minute the City millions arrived - but Iā€™ll take Mane and Salah over the little pr**k every day
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      Reply #26711: Feb 21, 2021 06:58:53 pm

      The club donā€™t run on a ā€œsell to buyā€ policy

      Do you understand the finances and model of the club ? Where are you expecting the money to come from


      The club have spent a lot of money on players

      Theyā€™ve spent very little on players. Most have been on the back of selling, open your eyes and smell the bullshit.

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      Reply #26712: Feb 21, 2021 07:00:19 pm

      Sterling wanted to leave - he wasnā€™t interested in staying the minute the City millions arrived - but Iā€™ll take Mane and Salah over the little pr**k every day

      He wanted to get away from Rodgers, which is understandable. Had he known Klopp was incoming, he would have happily stayed. He more or less said that not very long ago...

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      Reply #26713: Feb 21, 2021 07:03:52 pm
      Theyā€™ve spent very little on players. Most have been on the back of selling, open your eyes and smell the bullshit.

      The list of players they have bought


      Alisson
      VVD
      Gomez
      Robbo
      Fabinho
      Thiago
      Keita
      Ox
      Shaqiri
      Mane
      Firmino
      Salah
      Jota

      And many many more

      The transfer policy is outstanding - any player who is not needed or wanted has left and the club have used any funds to provide a team that won the league and CL

      Yet people say they have spent ā€œvery littleā€
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      Reply #26714: Feb 21, 2021 07:04:54 pm
      He wanted to get away from Rodgers, which is understandable. Had he known Klopp was incoming, he would have happily stayed. He more or less said that not very long ago...


      Stop making up nonsense


      Sterling left for the money to go to City - we moved on without him
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      Reply #26715: Feb 21, 2021 07:12:28 pm

      Stop making up nonsense


      Sterling left for the money to go to City - we moved on without him

      Call it what you like. Sterling basically said it in interview. Perhaps heā€™s the liar and youā€™re correct though.

      Or another way of looking at it. Donā€™t sell for 50m, have a player that is far more productive than say Firmino, value Sky rockets, but more importantly, has a massive hand in winning trophies...

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      Reply #26716: Feb 21, 2021 07:17:35 pm
      Call it what you like. Sterling basically said it in interview. Perhaps heā€™s the liar and youā€™re correct though.

      Or another way of looking at it. Donā€™t sell for 50m, have a player that is far more productive than say Firmino, value Sky rockets, but more importantly, has a massive hand in winning trophies...

      Why are you trying to go back 6 years to change history ?


      Sterling wanted out - he didnā€™t wanted to be at the club

      Firmino went onto help the team win the title and CL and people want to just dismiss his impact  :mad:

      Salah and Mane came into the role that Sterling played - would you rather he stayed and we didnā€™t sign them
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      Reply #26717: Feb 21, 2021 07:29:04 pm
      Why are you trying to go back 6 years to change history ?


      Sterling wanted out - he didnā€™t wanted to be at the club

      Firmino went onto help the team win the title and CL and people want to just dismiss his impact  :mad:

      Salah and Mane came into the role that Sterling played - would you rather he stayed and we didnā€™t sign them

      Or spout a list of player names and tell us the owners are fab. F**k it Iā€™ll turn it on itā€™s head to suit your agenda. The injuries a d lack of quality on the bench are all down to klopps methods and inability of the medical staff to keep players playing. Which in the end is the same thing. Down to  the owners...

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      Reply #26718: Feb 21, 2021 07:34:22 pm
      Or spout a list of player names and tell us the owners are fab. F**k it Iā€™ll turn it on itā€™s head to suit your agenda. The injuries a d lack of quality on the bench are all down to klopps methods and inability of the medical staff to keep players playing. Which in the end is the same thing. Down to  the owners...


      Sorry but what !!


      So Klopp is now getting the blame for the players being injured


      And that list of players helped the club win the CL and league  :mad:
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      Reply #26719: Feb 21, 2021 07:41:11 pm

      Sorry but what !!


      So Klopp is now getting the blame for the players being injured


      And that list of players helped the club win the CL and league  :mad:

      Are you dense? Iā€™m playing you at your own game. Youā€™re the one telling everyone how fabulous the owners are, so that must mean if itā€™s not the owners responsible for lack of squad depth by not spending, then it must be the medical staff and JK for his brand of football for players being injured. Which ultimately means itā€™s the owners at fault for hiring.

      So whose fault is it? Klopps and the medical staff for their training methods, or the owners for their lack of investment? Take your time...

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      Reply #26720: Feb 21, 2021 07:57:34 pm
      Are you dense? Iā€™m playing you at your own game. Youā€™re the one telling everyone how fabulous the owners are, so that must mean if itā€™s not the owners responsible for lack of squad depth by not spending, then it must be the medical staff and JK for his brand of football for players being injured. Which ultimately means itā€™s the owners at fault for hiring.

      So whose fault is it? Klopps and the medical staff for their training methods, or the owners for their lack of investment? Take your time...

      Are you stupid ?

      Do you even have the first clue about the level of injuries we have ?


      City last year lost one CB and their season was gone - we have lost the spine of the team due to serious injury this season - no team can cope with the level of injuries we have had this season


      There is no ā€œfaultā€ no blame - itā€™s an unprecedented level of injuries we have had to face and itā€™s taken itā€™s toll.


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      Reply #26721: Feb 21, 2021 08:17:27 pm
      Chronic lack of under investment has led to the fact the understudies are just not good enough.
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      Reply #26722: Feb 21, 2021 08:19:17 pm
      Are you stupid ?

      Do you even have the first clue about the level of injuries we have ?


      City last year lost one CB and their season was gone - we have lost the spine of the team due to serious injury this season - no team can cope with the level of injuries we have had this season


      There is no ā€œfaultā€ no blame - itā€™s an unprecedented level of injuries we have had to face and itā€™s taken itā€™s toll.




      And yet with the level of injuries, a squad lacking in depth of quality and players with known persistent injuries (ala matip, keita, etc), we are in the position we are because??

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      Reply #26723: Feb 21, 2021 08:23:58 pm
      And yet with the level of injuries, a squad lacking in depth of quality and players with known persistent injuries (ala matip, keita, etc), we are in the position we are because??


      Because the squad is not as bad as what people keeping suggesting - the players that are playing week in week out arent the no hopers certain fans keep stating
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      Reply #26724: Feb 21, 2021 08:26:01 pm
      Chronic lack of under investment has led to the fact the understudies are just not good enough.

      Do people really expect us to have the level of squad that allows multiple like for like people sat on the bench ?


      Itā€™s not some computer game where the bench and squad is full of Ā£50mil players are waiting.


      Where do people expect rbe money to come from to pay for that sort of squad
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      Reply #26725: Feb 21, 2021 08:28:29 pm
      Do people really expect us to have the level of squad that allows multiple like for like people sat on the bench ?


      Itā€™s not some computer game where the bench and squad is full of Ā£50mil players are waiting.


      Where do people expect rbe money to come from to pay for that sort of squad


      So go one do you get paid by FSG to go around looking for any posts slightly negative of the owners, I mean you never actually post anything about the football?

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