Ryan Shawcross (Stoke City)

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6550929,00.html

I do not want this to happen AT ALL.  Especially if we have to part with Lucas in exchange.  Big no for me.

Don't need him.

NO!

However when Agger is sold for peanuts in January, we might have to look at this more seriously.

Bloody hell

Not good enough, He is a Manc inside anyway :@

Don't need him.

NO!

However when Agger is sold for peanuts in January, we might have to look at this more seriously.

 

We don't need a centre half at the moment we have adequate cover here.

Nice to see us overrated to another over rated english centre half.

Nice to see us overrated to another over rated english centre half.

By a over rated manager!

Do we need another centre back?

Hope this doesn't mean Roy is trying to offload Dagger.

don't United have first option on Shawcross? They won't let him come to Liverpool. thankfully.

These rumors have taken quiet a turn in the last few days.

I thought he played well today against the Chavs and I wouldn't really mind him coming in to partner Agger at CB.

Mr hoof mark 2. Extremely clumsy in the tackle as well.. Quicker than Carragher but makes Carragher look like beckenbauer in possession

He would be perfect as 4th choice at low prices. Pecking order Carra (to be rested more often)->Agger->Skrtel->Shawcross

We then buy Cahill next year to replace Carra

If the Cahill deal doesn't happen then this might be a serious deal that we'll be considering.

I like this lad, done well yesterday against a bit of a re-juvenated Torres tw*t.

I'd have him for sure.

I thought Torres turned him quiet easily on a number of occasions.he should have won a pens for one of shawcross trademark clumsy tackles on him And overtime he seems to have the Carragher disease hoofing i call it.

he's a filthy animal. people say he's a good defender, i say he's just an uncultured thug. he can tackle, sure, when he just launches himself in people's faces.  can't pass either.

hell no.

Would have him if we don't get Cahill or Dann.

Definitely has a severe case of Hoofitus and just simply isn't the quality of player Liverpool should be interested in, there is absolutely nothing special about him. Belongs at a Stoke or relegation battling team as he has got fight in him but that's about it, nothing cultured, wont see anything that you can't see watching a local Sunday league team.

Disagree with that and I've watched him several times both on tv and at the Britannia. I'm one of those that moans about Carra's constant hoofing but I don't think Shawcross is that bad at all. I have no problem with a CB putting the ball in row Z on smashing it up the field to ease the pressure, sometimes that's the best option. My issue with Carragher is that he does it when he's got plenty of time on the ball in and attempt to set someone away up front. He hasn't got the passing range or vision so it generally just means wasting possession.
Shawcross is not another Agger, you're unlikely to see him bringing the ball out of defence and taking players on but he does the important things very well, putting in a crunching tackle or solid header and then laying it off to a more 'cultured' player (not easy to find in his current team  ).

We need a bit of grit at the back.

I dont care if whoever we sign is not a ball player. John Terry / Vidic both excellent defenders are not classed as ball players. Their job remains simple - win the ball at all costs and give it to someone that can make use of it end of.

So be it Shawcross / Cahill / Dann or anyone else providing "defending" is their first and only concern will do for me.

We need a bit of grit at the back.

I dont care if whoever we sign is not a ball player. John Terry / Vidic both excellent defenders are not classed as ball players. Their job remains simple - win the ball at all costs and give it to someone that can make use of it end of.

So be it Shawcross / Cahill / Dann or anyone else providing "defending" is their first and only concern will do for me.

This. Would also want more a Skrtel than Agger, exactly as you described.

We are looking for a long term replacement for Carra, buying this lad would be an insult to the man.

Utd reject nowhere near good enough.

Dalglish to Offer £10m Plus Poulsen for Stoke Centre-Back

Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish is keen to tie up a deal for a commanding centre-back before the end of the transfer window and is set to continue in his vein of signing young English players.

The latest player to be linked with a move to Anfield is Stoke's giant centre-back Ryan Shawcross, who has earned a reputation as one of the toughest defenders in the Premier League.

The former Manchester United youth player has been linked with a move to Liverpool on a number of occasions and Dalglish would like to find some cover with doubts over the fitness of Martin Skrtel and Daniel Agger.

Sotirios Kyrgiakos and Jamie Carragher also coming towards the end of theie careers and Dalglish knows that he will need to bring a young defender to the club.

Liverpool have already had an initial offer of £10million turned down by Stoke and with funds limited they will now try and offer a player-plus-cash deal.

According to caughtoffside.co.uk, Dalglish may now offer the services of central midfielder Christian Poulsen plus £10m for the 23-year-old defender.

The Denmark international has been told that he is surplus to requirements at Anfield and along with Alberto Aquilani, David Ngog and Joe Cole has been linked with a summer exit.

Stoke do not want to part with their talented young defender, but should Liverpool keep pursuing Shawcross then the player may find it hard to turn down a move to a club that hope to be pushing for a top four finish.

  sportsvibe.co.uk

Pulis turned that offer down already, he said either we pay £8m cash or £12m + Poulsen, take it or leave it

What"s left on his contract? it might not be a bad deal atall by the looks of it , if true.

As I have said on another thread, I am not the biggest fan of Shawcross, but if we can get him for £10million and unload Poulsen from our wage bill in the process, I am willing to reconsider it ... Ryan Shawcross is pretty limited as a player, but he has some qualities that our defence is lacking ...

Those complaining about Shawcross need to take a look at our defence

Terminator has become like the T4 version of the film, Soto is no way near good enough and agger is very injury prone. Shawcross would be a very good addition to our team and I think he would probably go on to become our best cb if we got him. We really do need to sort out that area, its a huge weakness.

Question is how much are the owners willing to bring in while the deadwood is still in the club

likes of Cole, Maxi, Poulsen, Soto and Degen are on big wages but are useless, they must be taking out at least 10m per season on wages

Pulis turned that offer down already, he said either we pay £8m cash or £12m + Poulsen, take it or leave it

I entered a pub raffle to win a Stoke shirt signed by Shawcross and came second, winning a football (not signed). Hope we don't get him now or I'll be gutted I missed out, .

We are looking for a long term replacement for Carra, buying this lad would be an insult to the man.

Utd reject nowhere near good enough.

Peter Beardsley!!

Not so keen on this fella as Cahill.  Has a tendency to be, shall we say, rather brutal and sometimes reckless in the tackling stakes.  Am happy to be proved wrong though.

Dalglish lines up Shawcross offer

17 August 2011

Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish is believed to be ready to offer Stoke £10m plus Christian Poulsen to land Ryan Shawcross.

The Reds are after a proven centre-back and have been linked heavily with Birmingham's Scott Dann this summer.

However, no deal has materialised for him and now Dalglish is looking elsewhere as he looks for more competition for places in defence.

Dalglish has Jamie Carragher, Daniel Agger and Sotirios Kyrgiakos as options while Martin Skrtel is currently out injured.

However, he is keen to recruit another centre-back and believes Shawcross could be the answer.

Liverpool have watched the Potters skipper for the past 12 months but have so far failed to come up with an offer suitable to land the 23-year-old.

It is thought a cash plus player deal may tempt Stoke chief Tony Pulis into doing a deal.

Pulis does not want to lose Shawcross but may be forced into agreeing to the transfer if the player makes it clear he wants to move.

http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/08/17/Dalglish-lines-up-Shawcross-offer/gnid-105026/

Dalglish to Offer £10m Plus Poulsen for Stoke Centre-Back

Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish is keen to tie up a deal for a commanding centre-back before the end of the transfer window and is set to continue in his vein of signing young English players.

The latest player to be linked with a move to Anfield is Stoke's giant centre-back Ryan Shawcross, who has earned a reputation as one of the toughest defenders in the Premier League.

The former Manchester United youth player has been linked with a move to Liverpool on a number of occasions and Dalglish would like to find some cover with doubts over the fitness of Martin Skrtel and Daniel Agger.

Sotirios Kyrgiakos and Jamie Carragher also coming towards the end of theie careers and Dalglish knows that he will need to bring a young defender to the club.

Liverpool have already had an initial offer of £10million turned down by Stoke and with funds limited they will now try and offer a player-plus-cash deal.

According to caughtoffside.co.uk, Dalglish may now offer the services of central midfielder Christian Poulsen plus £10m for the 23-year-old defender.

The Denmark international has been told that he is surplus to requirements at Anfield and along with Alberto Aquilani, David Ngog and Joe Cole has been linked with a summer exit.

Stoke do not want to part with their talented young defender, but should Liverpool keep pursuing Shawcross then the player may find it hard to turn down a move to a club that hope to be pushing for a top four finish.

  sportsvibe.co.uk

Dalglish lines up Shawcross offer

17 August 2011

Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish is believed to be ready to offer Stoke £10m plus Christian Poulsen to land Ryan Shawcross.

The Reds are after a proven centre-back and have been linked heavily with Birmingham's Scott Dann this summer.

However, no deal has materialised for him and now Dalglish is looking elsewhere as he looks for more competition for places in defence.

Dalglish has Jamie Carragher, Daniel Agger and Sotirios Kyrgiakos as options while Martin Skrtel is currently out injured.

However, he is keen to recruit another centre-back and believes Shawcross could be the answer.

Liverpool have watched the Potters skipper for the past 12 months but have so far failed to come up with an offer suitable to land the 23-year-old.

It is thought a cash plus player deal may tempt Stoke chief Tony Pulis into doing a deal.

Pulis does not want to lose Shawcross but may be forced into agreeing to the transfer if the player makes it clear he wants to move.

http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/08/17/Dalglish-lines-up-Shawcross-offer/gnid-105026/

Spot the difference.

People can spin it anyway you want he is an extremely limited centre half that hoofs anything that comes near him football or man. He is cumbersome in the tackle and can be turned extremely easily. Not what the club should be looking at to be honest the only thing i see going for him is he is english

I'd honestly prefer to see Kelly given a chance at CB rather than Shawcross come in, absolutely no real quality about him, just an ordinary player.

I like him...

People can spin it anyway you want he is an extremely limited centre half that hoofs anything that comes near him football or man. He is cumbersome in the tackle and can be turned extremely easily. Not what the club should be looking at to be honest the only thing I see going for him is he is english

Well, he certainly has his limitations, but he also has some qualities ... He is good in the air, both in his own and the opponents' box ... I don't think that he is an improvement over Agger or Skrtel, but he has a good fitness record, is a better player than Kyrgiakos, and is 9 years younger than Carragher ... For £10 million plus Poulsen off our wage bill, he will be an improvement to our squad ...

I want someone to come in that is better than we have. I don't think paying 10million for a squad player is the way forward. Id be disappointed if this is the best option our scouting department can come up with. F**k sake our signing doesn't have to be english

People can spin it anyway you want he is an extremely limited centre half that hoofs anything that comes near him football or man. He is cumbersome in the tackle and can be turned extremely easily. Not what the club should be looking at to be honest the only thing I see going for him is he is english

I'm not that keen either, but he is 23 and playing for Stoke, where you have to be a no-nonsense defender.  We don't know how he'd play in a pass & move system, or how he will progress in the coming years. 

I know how he'd play in the pass and move system, someone would pass to him and he'd move the ball 60yards down the pitch.

He would be a desperation signing really don't like him as a player

Think Shawcross will be no better then Carragher in terms of hoofing the ball, not his fault but its all his known, while playing with Stoke, his a great defender but if we are moaning about the easy option of lumping the ball, i don't think Shawcross will change that.

It's not just that Vsuarez it's the level of quality a play exudes, I have a standard in my head that Liverpool is above the likes of Shawcross. Maybe I'm stuck in the past and we need to accept we can't attract the top stars at the moment but this is mid-table fodder not premiership / champs league class defender we're talking about. Godin would be my preferred option but I can see a case made for Cahill and fall back option of Dann anything lower than that standards is scraping the barrel for me.

It's not just that Vsuarez it's the level of quality a play exudes, I have a standard in my head that Liverpool is above the likes of Shawcross. Maybe I'm stuck in the past and we need to accept we can't attract the top stars at the moment but this is mid-table fodder not premiership / champs league class defender we're talking about. Godin would be my preferred option but I can see a case made for Cahill and fall back option of Dann anything lower than that standards is scraping the barrel for me.

I rate Shawcross higher then Dann though, Dann for me does not look anything special and there is no doubt Shawcross is good at what he does, defending for me its just i don't want that type of defender, a no nonsense one, i would prefer a more rounded defender, someone who will be patient with the ball and pass it, and attempt to move the team forward, something Shawcross like Carragher does not offer.

Cahill over Shawcross any day of the week. Not impressed with this rumour!!

One thing we've witnessed over the years, at Anfield, is you don't have to be the best centre back in the world.  Especially if you have a great centre back partnership.   I can see Shawcross and Agger working, but not so much Shawcross with Carra and to a lesser extent Skrtel.

With the other centre backs we've looked at, I think a case can be made for Dann & Cahill working better with our current centre back choices.  

There is loads of centre halves better than the lad, we might as well target Robert Huth if we are going for this lad, he will be cheaper and does the exact same job for Stoke except he is more a threat from set pieces. Remember the uproar when Hodgson wanted to buy him last year. Don't expect us to sign Shawcross because to be honest he is not good enough

Lets just sign someone from outside this league.

To be honest, whoever we buy out of them two then we'll be overpaying. I reckon we could get Benedikt Howedes for less. At least try for Hummels or Subotic. Players like these of high quality and not overpriced.

All of these add strength at the back, an aerial presence and can play proper football how we want it without the English price tag. If we overpay, it's because of their quality, not because of their nationality.

I think he's ok, but I'd much prefer Cahill

Would prefer Cahill meself,With the Ngog deal nearly there i thought a swap deal was on the cards.This lad i am not to sure thought utd had first option on him or is that just bullshit.

Stoke City tell Liverpool FC to forget Ryan Shawcross bid

Stoke City manager Tony Pulis has told to Liverpool that Ryan Shawcross is not for sale.

Kenny Dalglish has been tracking the 23-year-old as potential final piece in the Reds' defensive set up, with the centre-back role remaining an area for concern.

Matthew Upson and Jonathan Woodgate's arrivals at the Britannia Stadium this summer had suggested that the Potters were potentially paving the way for Shawcross's departure.

But Pulis, speaking ahead of his side's Europa League qualifier with FC Thun, insists that his Chester-born skipper will not be allowed to leave the club as he aims to strengthen.

He said: "We have got no need to sell Ryan. We want to spend money if we can.

"I think the chairman and the board have made it quite clear that their intentions are to try to improve the squad this year.

"We are very pleased with the defenders we’ve got, now we have to improve ourmidfield and forward line."

Click Liverpool

Oh well.

I'm devastated...

I dont belive you Tony if we want him he will come.