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      Fernando Torres (The Post Liverpool years)

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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #529: Feb 02, 2011 02:09:16 pm
      Will someone explain to me how Chelsea are going to comply with these new financial rules. They announced a £70 million loss on the day they spent £75 million on transfers. Is Roman plannng on ignoring them.

      Exactly, plus they will need significant investment in other areas soon
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      I don't see how they can replace them and comply with the rules
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #530: Feb 02, 2011 02:12:37 pm
          ^    ^    ^
      sh*t creek and paddles spring to mind.
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      Reply #531: Feb 02, 2011 02:18:31 pm
      No mate it was his last chance to splash the cash before they came in.

      As I understand it, and I could be wrong, these fees will be included, divided by the years on contract, so £10m a year for Torres and £5m for Luis taken against their revenue.
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #532: Feb 02, 2011 02:45:20 pm
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      sh*t creek and paddles spring to mind.

      Shouldn't that sentence be without paddles?  :P
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #533: Feb 02, 2011 02:46:25 pm
      As I understand it, and I could be wrong, these fees will be included, divided by the years on contract, so £10m a year for Torres and £5m for Luis taken against their revenue.

      Doesn't work like that mate.  From this summer Clubs can only spend (buying players) their operating profit plus upto 15m euros each season.

      Chelsea don't have an operating profit and never will have so even if Roman puts in his own money to buy players their wages will keep them in the red.

      Players bought now will go into this years accounts.
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      Reply #534: Feb 02, 2011 03:02:39 pm
      I would imagine Roman is hoping the shirt sales carry over with Torres. If and when Carroll and Suarez start terrifying defenses and winning us games Roman might find an injury prone striker who has to operate alone upfront was a waste of 50 million given his current players
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #535: Feb 02, 2011 03:13:00 pm
      I would imagine Roman is hoping the shirt sales carry over with Torres.

      If Chelsea had fans like ours then that would be a reasonable assumption. Unfortunately for them, they are not a big club and will never sell the number of Torres shirts that we did.

      What if roman bought 20 million Torres shirts, would that be classed as profit?
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #536: Feb 02, 2011 03:25:27 pm
      He wanted to move probably because he thinks a player of his standard doesn't deserve to be where we currently are. Clearly shows that he thinks he's bigger than Liverpool and it was us who made him who he is today.

      His body language at the start of the season was an indication that he has always wanted to leave. I know he would leave eventually but not at this time, the time when the club is starting to improve and not to Chelsea. It would have been much more acceptable if he returned to Spain.

      Never gave Kenny a chance, never gave NESV a chance. Was backed by us even though he was playing poorly but took the opportunity to jump ship when the chance came. I actually don't think he put alot of thought into it. He joined a club in decline. Probably 90% of their squad is either 30+ years old or approaching 30 and he himself, is approaching 30.

      It's true, he has ambitions, but for himself whereas others, have ambitions for Liverpool.

      No apology, no gratitude, yeah, he clearly fits with that classless team.
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      Reply #537: Feb 02, 2011 03:28:33 pm
      Doesn't work like that mate.  From this summer Clubs can only spend (buying players) their operating profit plus upto 15m euros each season.

      Checked the rules... this is how I see it working -

      Your income from ticket sales, broadcasting, sponsorship, advertising, commercial activity has to exceed your expenses such as wages and other operating expenses and transfer fees amortised over the length of the contract

      http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/50/09/12/1500912_DOWNLOAD.pdf

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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #538: Feb 02, 2011 03:38:33 pm
      Can Abromovich now just decide to sponsor the club himself and put an extraordinary price on it?





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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #539: Feb 02, 2011 04:12:27 pm
      Checked the rules... this is how I see it working -

      Your income from ticket sales, broadcasting, sponsorship, advertising, commercial activity has to exceed your expenses such as wages and other operating expenses and transfer fees amortised over the length of the contract

      http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/50/09/12/1500912_DOWNLOAD.pdf



      Yeah as I said mate operating profit.  Chelsea don't make a profit - however, we do  ;D
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #540: Feb 02, 2011 04:27:01 pm
      There is a committee going to be set up to try and find clubs looking for loop holes
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      Reply #541: Feb 02, 2011 04:52:59 pm
      he was a red or so he said
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      but romans billions turned his head
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      At Lfc our blood runs red
      So F*ck off chav to us your dead
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      go blow ashley cole
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      Reply #542: Feb 02, 2011 04:56:01 pm
      Hey don't criticize Broughton, he sold the club
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #543: Feb 02, 2011 05:20:54 pm
      Aldo summing up what we all think really.

      It's a bit lengthy but a good read.

      John Aldridge: Fraud Fernando Torres spat in the face of Liverpool FC fans
      FERNANDO TORRES is a fake and a fraud who has spat in the faces of the Liverpool supporters who idolised him.

      In his book the striker talked about how much it meant to him to be a Liverpool player. He spoke about the history and tradition of the club and how much he loved the city. He seemed to embrace Liverpool’s values but now we know he didn’t mean it. It wasn’t real and I’m sure he will be saying the same things about playing for Chelsea.

      Torres is simply a mercenary who has gone for a huge pay rise.

      Liverpool fans stuck by him through thick and thin this season. They made excuses for his poor performances about his injuries still affecting him. But all the time Torres was taking the club and the fans for a ride. Once he had put in a transfer request Liverpool were right to let him go. There’s no point keeping someone who doesn’t want to be there.

      My five-year-old grandson refused to put his Torres shirt on over the weekend because even he was disgusted with him.

      Torres will say he’s gone to Chelsea to win trophies but there’s no guarantee he will achieve that there. Okay, they have a better squad than Liverpool but they are in transition as well.

      The timing of his decision to demand a move was terrible but then maybe Liverpool are better off without him.

      To be honest, he had been doing my head in all season. I was sick and tired of seeing him mope around the pitch and being out-battled and out-fought. There has only been one game this season that he won for us and that was Chelsea at home which looking back he obviously just put a shift in to try to impress them and get the move he wanted.

      Torres is gone now and with the money we’ve raised from selling him and Ryan Babel we’ve signed two quality centre forwards in Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez. That’s very shrewd business by Kenny Dalglish.

      I’ve always been a massive fan of Carroll who is the best up and coming young striker in this country. He’s made huge strides in a short period of time. He’s like a better version of Duncan Ferguson who was a terrific player. He’s excellent in the air, has a good touch and plays with a lot of passion. When he made his England debut against France I thought he was terrific and Liverpool have got a great prospect. He’s proved his quality over the past year and has changed more games single-handedly for Newcastle in that time than Torres did for Liverpool.

      People have questioned the price tag of £35million. Of course we paid over the odds for Carroll but it’s all relevant. After all Torres was overvalued as well. Getting £50million for a player who hasn’t performed over the past 12 months is good business. It wasn’t long ago people were saying we would be lucky to get £30million for him. He’s been hampered by injuries and Chelsea have taken a big gamble. The question is can they turn him back into the player he was when he first arrived at Anfield?

      Carroll is an honest lad and he won’t shirk the responsibility of leading the line like Torres did. He will hold it up a lot better and he will fight for the club. His aerial ability will be key at both ends of the pitch. Carroll’s goal scoring record of one in every two games is very good for a young striker and Suarez’s is even better than that. From what I’ve seen of the Uruguayan I’ve been very impressed, I think they will compliment each other really well.

      Their partnership might take a little while to bed in but if they hit it off they will do a lot of damage. We’ve got two new strikers who could give us a lot more than we got from Torres. After all we weren’t getting much from him.

      I’ve got to say in difficult circumstances Kenny and Damien Comolli have done a great job.

      In off-loading Babel and Paul Konchesky they have got rid of two players who were just not good enough for Liverpool Football Club. Reluctantly, they sold Torres but in his place we’ve signed genuine quality and there’s reason to be optimistic about the coming months.

      Liverpool maybe languishing in seventh place but Sunday’s trip to Stamford Bridge has suddenly become one of the biggest games for a long time. It’s ironic that Fernando Torres’ debut for Chelsea looks set to come against us and it certainly adds a lot of extra spice to the match. It’s a massive boost to have Jamie Carragher back fit ahead of schedule and I’m sure he will relish the opportunity to mark Torres.

      I know we’ve kept clean sheets in our last two games but Carragher has been really missed since he dislocated his shoulder against Spurs back in November, we need him back out there.

      It’s an intriguing game and there’s no doubt Chelsea are vulnerable. They are an ageing team with chinks in their armour. Everton gave them a great run for their money in the Cup last weekend and were unlucky not to win. They caused Chelsea a lot of problems and it’s just a shame Andy Carroll isn’t fit. Chelsea’s home form hasn’t been great this season and if we defend properly there’s no reason why we can’t get a victory.

      I expect there to be a real buzz around Anfield tonight. Fernando Torres may have gone but we’ve just signed two quality strikers in his place and we have to look to the future.

      The game against Stoke marks the start of a new chapter in Liverpool’s history. After the morale-boosting wins against Wolves and Fulham it’s crucial we keep the momentum going. Stoke are very direct and we need to be up for the physical battle.

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/02/02/john-aldridge-fraudulent-fernando-torres-spat-in-the-face-of-liverpool-fc-fans-100252-28098077/

      Didn't think about the point I've put in bold but it's more than likely the truth. It's the only game this season he looked like his old self. He clearly just wanted to put himself in the 'shop window' for Chelsea.
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #544: Feb 02, 2011 05:20:58 pm
      Like to share this text from a Chelski mate:Whats the differencenbetween Fernando Torres & Heather Mills?

      Ones a one footed,lying,decieving C***,who'll do anything for money.The other was married to Paul McCartney.
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #545: Feb 02, 2011 05:35:37 pm
      Interesting article and is exactly right, IMO.
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #546: Feb 02, 2011 07:21:08 pm
      Good article there- and is sadly very true.

      Onwards and upwards!  :)
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #547: Feb 02, 2011 07:43:58 pm
      Farewell compilation to the player who betrayed us. Let's not forget all the joy he brought to us Liverpool fans


      Farewell, Fernando Torres


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      Reply #548: Feb 02, 2011 09:58:11 pm
      He has gone to a club with better chances of winning silverwear this season. He is an idiot though because looking at the Chelsea squad, Drogba is aging as is Anelka, Lampard, cole, Terry. You can't believe Kakuta and Sturridge can replace these players. He should have gone to spain in the summer if he did want to leave.
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      Reply #549: Feb 02, 2011 10:14:10 pm
      That video has got me depressed on such a good night for Suarez :(
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #550: Feb 02, 2011 10:18:03 pm
      Why are you watching videos of that F***ing snake? Get yourself to the post-match party.
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      Re: Fernando Torres (The Chelsea years)
      Reply #551: Feb 02, 2011 10:32:26 pm
      Still have respect for him as a footballer alone and but doesn't deserve a video of farewell, to be honest.

      Didn't even thank nor apologise to us.

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