Huge risk in signing overpriced English players

There is a solution to all this. We are in the midst of a youth system overhaul. In the event that this is a success, so far the signs are positive, then we can afford to gamble on more expensive players. English ones will cost more, but then they are less likely to look for a move to Spain thus losing vital cogs in our squad. Personally I'm glad to see us linked to quality young players and not over the hill squad fillers

Agreed mate. 

Just think how much we can get for our young players that don't make LFC standard.  So long as they've had some PL experience with us we can ask for low £m's instead of a few hundred grand.

Exactly Debs. We give the likes of Spearing, Flanagan and Robinson a few years. If they work fantastic. If they don't then it's millions not thousands because of the experience they have. Save our money for first team stars and promote our own. I would love to see our current crop of youth team internationals given the chance. I have no doubt they will. Then teams will be falling over themselves to make us offers

English players do cost more, but also guess what?

They sell for more as well

Exactly Debs. We give the likes of Spearing, Flanagan and Robinson a few years. If they work fantastic. If they don't then it's millions not thousands because of the experience they have. Save our money for first team stars and promote our own. I would love to see our current crop of youth team internationals given the chance. I have no doubt they will. Then teams will be falling over themselves to make us offers

And that has a knock on effect of the best young players in England wanting to come to our Academy in the future 

 

50 mill for Torres
30 mill for Berbatov
30 mill for Shevchenko
30 mill for Veron
25 mill for Dzeko

Not exactly exclusive to British players is it? Lets be honest, there's as many average players from abroad going for high prices such as us selling Sissoko for 11 million, same as we sold Crouch for and less than what we paid for Alonso.

The fact that football is a joke nowadays means sh*t players will cost more and in a domino effect meaning average players will cost more and top class players will cost more. That's the way football is now. It's nothing to do with nationality, it's about football. Take Dani Pacheco for example, what would be the price people would want for him? Doubt many would accept two or three million. But in the same breath we're complaining about having to pay 10 million for Ipswich for Wickham.

We've supposedly put 8 million on Ngog. A back up forward who won't improve too much from here on in. Ipswich are putting the same price on their number one forward who has the potential to be a clinical Premiership finisher. It's a lot more than a players nationality. It's what a player means to a club and the fact that football has gone mad.

The fact that people think another human being is worth this sort of money is sickening. Fucks sake, might as well just go back to selling slaves in a market place. That's all clubs are doing now.

There's people defending their countries with their life every day, there's people ensuring the streets we walk at night are safe, there's people who save lives and bring new lives into the world every day, there's people cleaning the streets, there's people ensuring we can cross a road safely, there's people ensuring we have milk, eggs, meat on our plates. And every F***ing one of them is worth more than some tit who kicks a bag of air around a field for 90 minutes.

I'm disgusted by what football has become. It is no longer a sport. It's a F***ing disgrace. And until somebody steps in and actually puts a stop to it all then the longer it's gonna go on.

50 mill for Torres
30 mill for Berbatov
30 mill for Shevchenko
30 mill for Veron
25 mill for Dzeko

Not exactly exclusive to British players is it? Lets be honest, there's as many average players from abroad going for high prices such as us selling Sissoko for 11 million, same as we sold Crouch for and less than what we paid for Alonso.

The fact that football is a joke nowadays means sh*t players will cost more and in a domino effect meaning average players will cost more and top class players will cost more. That's the way football is now. It's nothing to do with nationality, it's about football. Take Dani Pacheco for example, what would be the price people would want for him? Doubt many would accept two or three million. But in the same breath we're complaining about having to pay 10 million for Ipswich for Wickham.

We've supposedly put 8 million on Ngog. A back up forward who won't improve too much from here on in. Ipswich are putting the same price on their number one forward who has the potential to be a clinical Premiership finisher. It's a lot more than a players nationality. It's what a player means to a club and the fact that football has gone mad.

The fact that people think another human being is worth this sort of money is sickening. Fucks sake, might as well just go back to selling slaves in a market place. That's all clubs are doing now.

There's people defending their countries with their life every day, there's people ensuring the streets we walk at night are safe, there's people who save lives and bring new lives into the world every day, there's people cleaning the streets, there's people ensuring we can cross a road safely, there's people ensuring we have milk, eggs, meat on our plates. And every f**king one of them is worth more than some tit who kicks a bag of air around a field for 90 minutes.

I'm disgusted by what football has become. It is no longer a sport. It's a f**king disgrace. And until somebody steps in and actually puts a stop to it all then the longer it's gonna go on.

Hit the nail on the head Billy!

A stand and applaud that post. I've thought it for awhile now.

At the moment, WE have very promising young English talent. Flano, Kelly, Spearing, Robbo, Shelvey...if they had been playing for a lesser side this season then they would now all have ridiculous price tags on thier heads. If we manage to sign a few more young, hungry players who want to make a name for themselves rather than pick up thier wage packet every week then we are in with a shout of building a team that is capable to challange for top honours for years. This is the way to go about it and I have faith in Kenny. It is not as big of a risk signing young english players as they will sell on for a decent price, foriegn flops on the other hand will not.

There is no argument that Liverpool do need to sign players in the positions they are looking at, Sotiris Kyrgiakos isn’t up to the Kop faithful’s high standards, Jordan Henderson is being lined up as Gerrard’s replacement in the middle of the park and Liverpool have been crying out for an out and out winger like Downing all season. I would argue that Juan Mata of Valencia provides better value for money than Downing, especially with the Spaniard’s Champions League and World Cup experience. Gary Cahill has had a solid season but not overly consistent season with Bolton, why not make a move for Christopher Samba who is available at £10 million and has been a solid performer for Blackburn for three seasons and Stevie G will still be around in five years time minimum, why the desire to splash silly amounts of cash out on Jordan Henderson, who has had one quality game against Chelsea.

Agreed fully here.

The fact that people think another human being is worth this sort of money is sickening. Fucks sake, might as well just go back to selling slaves in a market place. That's all clubs are doing now.

There's people defending their countries with their life every day, there's people ensuring the streets we walk at night are safe, there's people who save lives and bring new lives into the world every day, there's people cleaning the streets, there's people ensuring we can cross a road safely, there's people ensuring we have milk, eggs, meat on our plates. And every F***ing one of them is worth more than some tit who kicks a bag of air around a field for 90 minutes.

I'm disgusted by what football has become. It is no longer a sport. It's a F***ing disgrace. And until somebody steps in and actually puts a stop to it all then the longer it's gonna go on.

Amen Billy!

Quality post.

50 mill for Torres
30 mill for Berbatov
30 mill for Shevchenko
30 mill for Veron
25 mill for Dzeko

Not exactly exclusive to British players is it? Lets be honest, there's as many average players from abroad going for high prices such as us selling Sissoko for 11 million, same as we sold Crouch for and less than what we paid for Alonso.

The fact that football is a joke nowadays means sh*t players will cost more and in a domino effect meaning average players will cost more and top class players will cost more. That's the way football is now. It's nothing to do with nationality, it's about football. Take Dani Pacheco for example, what would be the price people would want for him? Doubt many would accept two or three million. But in the same breath we're complaining about having to pay 10 million for Ipswich for Wickham.

We've supposedly put 8 million on Ngog. A back up forward who won't improve too much from here on in. Ipswich are putting the same price on their number one forward who has the potential to be a clinical Premiership finisher. It's a lot more than a players nationality. It's what a player means to a club and the fact that football has gone mad.

The fact that people think another human being is worth this sort of money is sickening. Fucks sake, might as well just go back to selling slaves in a market place. That's all clubs are doing now.

There's people defending their countries with their life every day, there's people ensuring the streets we walk at night are safe, there's people who save lives and bring new lives into the world every day, there's people cleaning the streets, there's people ensuring we can cross a road safely, there's people ensuring we have milk, eggs, meat on our plates. And every f**king one of them is worth more than some tit who kicks a bag of air around a field for 90 minutes.

I'm disgusted by what football has become. It is no longer a sport. It's a f**king disgrace. And until somebody steps in and actually puts a stop to it all then the longer it's gonna go on.

Great post!.

50 mill for Torres
30 mill for Berbatov
30 mill for Shevchenko
30 mill for Veron
25 mill for Dzeko

Not exactly exclusive to British players is it? Lets be honest, there's as many average players from abroad going for high prices such as us selling Sissoko for 11 million, same as we sold Crouch for and less than what we paid for Alonso.

The fact that football is a joke nowadays means sh*t players will cost more and in a domino effect meaning average players will cost more and top class players will cost more. That's the way football is now. It's nothing to do with nationality, it's about football. Take Dani Pacheco for example, what would be the price people would want for him? Doubt many would accept two or three million. But in the same breath we're complaining about having to pay 10 million for Ipswich for Wickham.

We've supposedly put 8 million on Ngog. A back up forward who won't improve too much from here on in. Ipswich are putting the same price on their number one forward who has the potential to be a clinical Premiership finisher. It's a lot more than a players nationality. It's what a player means to a club and the fact that football has gone mad.

The fact that people think another human being is worth this sort of money is sickening. Fucks sake, might as well just go back to selling slaves in a market place. That's all clubs are doing now.

There's people defending their countries with their life every day, there's people ensuring the streets we walk at night are safe, there's people who save lives and bring new lives into the world every day, there's people cleaning the streets, there's people ensuring we can cross a road safely, there's people ensuring we have milk, eggs, meat on our plates. And every f**king one of them is worth more than some tit who kicks a bag of air around a field for 90 minutes.

I'm disgusted by what football has become. It is no longer a sport. It's a f**king disgrace. And until somebody steps in and actually puts a stop to it all then the longer it's gonna go on.

Quality post that DLS.

My opinion is that even though these young kids may be English and thus over inflated pricewise, they are at least very very good quality players despite the fact they're of a very young age. Under our coaches they're only going to get better and better and if laying out say £10 million on Wickham now means we can sell him in 5 years or so at £30million then fill your boots i say.

They were all supposed to be top internationals when signed, the prices being bandied about for English players is insane especially when some of them are extremely limited  or unproven. Agree with the rest of your post though

Quality post that DLS.

My opinion is that even though these young kids may be English and thus over inflated pricewise, they are at least very very good quality players despite the fact they're of a very young age. Under our coaches they're only going to get better and better and if laying out say £10 million on Wickham now means we can sell him in 5 years or so at £30million then fill your boots i say.

I've already said it mate, it's not just English/British players that are overpriced. Most clubs around the world are gonna lash hefty price tags on their better players and certainly on their best young talent in order to keep other clubs off them so the players current club can reap the rewards of the players ability.

Many foreign lads cost through the nose as well. It's not exclusive to British players and people who believe it is need their heads testing. We're linked with Wickham for 10 million, try and sign Lasogga from Hertha Berlin and see how much they want for him. (Just Googled Germany's U-21s and picked a forward at random by the way, I haven't a clue who Lasogga is or if Hertha are a decent German side).

But I doubt they're gonna let their young star forward go on the cheap either. So it's not exclusive to British players. It's natural to over value your own property, especially those that you think will become valuable in the future.

You could argue that we've seen this before. Back when UEFA made a rule that you had to have some many 'home nation' players in your European cup squad Souness, desperate to win the trophy as a manager, sold good 'foreign players' like Houghton and Staunton and bought average englishmen like Walters and Thomas. You could almost trace this back as the start of our decline. I've also asked this before but when did the game change so much that you can no longer buy a good player for peanuts from Crewe, Northampton. Doncaster, Partick Thistle, Wrexham  etc and turn them into legends, you have to buy a £10m player from Croatia or Belarussia that no one had heard of?

Looking at the England game yesterday the only player I felt was any good, and would have was Leighton Baines!

I think all players are risks in the current climate. There are very few bankers especially in the long term.

So is it worth the gamble? Depends on if you want to win with English Players.

Generally English players are poor, if they were not they be playing abroad, Yes?

English players are not comfortable on the ball. The are taught from a very young age win at all costs. Look at brazil its all about skill and fun.

that's an interesting point. Totally different sport I know but I was listening to the cricket earlier and the point was made that if Muralitharan had been English he would have had his 'unusual' action coached out of him.

that's an interesting point. Totally different sport I know but I was listening to the cricket earlier and the point was made that if Muralitharan had been English he would have had his 'unusual' action coached out of him.

You mean he wouldn't of been allowed to chuck the ball had he been English?

The way to solve the problem - start young and look far and wide. If you buy young talent, have a fantastic youth system and build on your own club from the bottom grassroots level then we will be the beneficiaries and not the burgled over these ridiculous prices.

Been thinking about this topic for a while. I did think it was just English priced players that are overpriced but thinking about it, I think any player from the premier league is overpriced or expensive, doesn't matter if there English or not. Very very rare to get a good value buy from another premier league club. I think English players are more expensive from premier league clubs but you can get good value for English player from lower league clubs.

Every Liverpool fan is sick of the Likes of Poulsen,Ngog, Jovanovic, Dossena etc. No one wants any more cheap, old, crap foreign players. King Kenny knows what he's doing!

Fantastic post DLS. Completely agree that the money in football has gotten beyond a pisstake now.

Aside from that, I feel it is actually the homegrown rules that are going to see us suffer more than anything. I'm bothered about being forced to buy players with a certain nationality.

It's bad enough that the English national team has won F**k all for years and probably still won't despite a fair amount of good players. Imagine if we played in the Azerbaijan Barclays Premier League? We'd be goosed.

Beside the fact that I'm not bothered about how the national team is doing, I actually don't think the rules will make a blind bit of difference.