Players linked & thankfully haven't signed to LFC!

He took a gamble on a lad coming from the UAE league, F**k me there is no manager that would have thrown him staight in there. Zarate was unheard of at the time. It was a relegation battle. F**k sake I'm constantly hearing foreign players need time to settle yet you throw a lad coming from the UAE straight into a relegation battle.

Well Downing was played all season on the right for Villa does that make him a right midfielder

Well..

I see discussions about Bentley, N'Zogbi..& Zarate are drifting away from the topic main point!!!

Sylvain Marveaux!

Carlton Cole and Wayne Bridge are two that come to me straight away!

Gabriel Heinze, I'll be honest I've always thought he was sh*te and didn't want him, when Rafa wanted to sign him.

Sylvain Marveaux!

What's this lad like? I haven't watched him yet, so is he any good for e'm?

Swapping Alonso for Gareth Barry is another big one ha!

Poborsky, that is going a bit back, he picked Scum over us and F**k me he was terrible

Yeh didn't we sign Paddy Berger and Smicer instead, can't remember the specifics I spent much of the late 90's in a drug fuelled strobe light haze.

Yeh didn't we sign Paddy Berger and Smicer instead, can't remember the specifics I spent much of the late 90's in a drug fuelled strobe light haze.

Paddy Berger first under Evans, Smicer came later when Ged was in charge.

Berger was boss at the start, until Evo told him to stop shooting and pass more!

Ya after his chipped goal in the Euros every one thought he was sh*t hot, F**k me he was terrible at Utd they bought him fo 4.5 million at the time

He took a gamble on a lad coming from the UAE league, F**k me there is no manager that would have thrown him staight in there. Zarate was unheard of at the time. It was a relegation battle. F**k sake I'm constantly hearing foreign players need time to settle yet you throw a lad coming from the UAE straight into a relegation battle.

Well Downing was played all season on the right for Villa does that make him a right midfielder

Let me put this in simple terms so you understand.

Loan signing without a chance of extending the deal due to their position on the ladder.

Striker.

Could save Birmingham's season.

Stays on the bench for 75% of match on most occasions despite scoring 3 in 6 starts.

Birmingham relegated.

Understand, corbs? He could of Tevez'd them like he did with West Ham but no. He chose Forssell over him. The phasing in period ended after a couple weeks. If your intention is to sign someone on loan from a foreign country, you live and die by the sword. You don't wait until 3 months in for him to start (which he didn't do, Zarate didn't even start in their last couple matches!) and then start playing him.

He showed many signs he could cope and Mcleish chose other options.

Now back on to the main argument where it applies to this topic - Charles N'Zogbia.

He is a versatile winger that predominantly plays on the right to cut in on to his left while running at his man. No that doesn't F***ing mean Downing is a right winger. It means Charles N'Zogbia is a F***ing right winger because he plays/ed there for the best part of his last two seasons and the position he wanted to play.

Downing plays/ed on the right to change things up and float the two wingers to run at different men. N'Zogbia stayed on the right for Wigan and occasionally on the left when things weren't working - the exact opposite situation with Downing. He is on the left and goes to the right when things aren't working.

Tevez and Mascherano spent the first 4 months on the bench at West Ham. Really at loss to know why your bringing Zarate into an argument whether N'Zogbia would have been a good signing for.

 There is F**k all opposites between Downing and N'Zogbia they played the same roles for there clubs last season in what is seen as there best season at club level.

Paddy Berger first under Evans, Smicer came later when Ged was in charge.

Aye that's right HR, we signed Berger the same summer as United signed Poborsky wasn't it, we got the better deal, although I'd rather have had Nedved than anyt of the two even though Berger was a class act on his day, Nedved was F***ing outstanding.

Aye that's right HR, we signed Berger the same summer as United signed Poborsky wasn't it, we got the better deal, although I'd rather have had Nedved than anyt of the two even though Berger was a class act on his day, Nedved was F***ing outstanding.

He went to Lazio, then onto Juve didn't he, I think!!

And yeah quality player.

Bentley was never good and was massively over rated after one decent season with Blackburn

Like every English player in recent years (apart from Gerrard), Bentley was massively over-rated and over-priced ... Still, he's had 3 good seasons at Blackburn under Mark Hughes, not only 1 good season ...

nedved looked like patrick swayze... off topic but y'no

He went to Lazio, then onto Juve didn't he, I think!!

And yeah quality player.

Yeh mate he did, he was boss.

Quaresma - The next Ronaldo? Perhaps more a fans favourite than the managers , but I think we did actually go for him. Think he turned us down because he was asked to do more than just attack?

Remember seeing him at Liverpool a while back.... he was terrible.

Quaresma - The next Ronaldo? Perhaps more a fans favourite than the managers , but I think we did actually go for him. Think he turned us down because he was asked to do more than just attack?

Remember seeing him at Liverpool a while back.... he was terrible.

Trying to remember if it was Porto or Inter in the European Cup, either way vastly over-rated sh*te.

Kenwyne Jones.

Just don't rate the lad at all.

Of the recent ones, has to be Carlton Cole for me. He's still sh*te, and is woy still lining him up to sign him next window ?
On the longterm, Alonso for Barry as PODGE said. Has to be the worst bit of work Rafa ever undertook.

Porto huyton when we beat them four one. Even with voronin starting

Carlton Cole
John O'Shea
Wayne Bridge
Yossi Benayoun
David Bentley
Lee Catermole