Why are some fans being negative?

I think any newbie to this site should have to watch the history of LFC dvd, read Bill's, Kenny's, Jamie's and Steven's books....then have a test of this before they are allowed to comment upon LFC issues because quite frankly I get so pissed off with the bullshit spouted by newer followers to our great club.

The lack of knowledge over history, culture and attitude is so shocking at times.

Of course have an opinion but we are different to most every other club in the world and to be a follower is a life commitment where you need to know your stuff.

Support the scum or the chavs if you want some passing connection to a club...we are a institution.

People always feel braver and see themselves as being more intelligent when typing on a keyboard then  when in days gone by where you learnt from your elders or learnt your knowledge or tested your opinions from going to games and discussing them in the pub.

Love technology but this is a by product of the internet era.

Why do some Reds fans on here believe we won't win the league? I ask myself about your support to the club, you can't be a proper supporter of the club if you don't believe we can win.

People who say 'realistcially we cant win' talk a load of bollocks! Why the F**k not?! Did you see Istanbul?! "Realistically" we were never going to win the Champions League that year with the squad we had and as it was Rafa's first season but guess f***in what? We pulled it off and won the Champions League.

Football is and always will be unpredictable and thats what makes us love it. Why support this great team if you don't believe we can win every game and every trophy? The only thing that is "realisitic" in football is that anything and everything can happen in football. And to the small majority of Liverpool fans, you need to stop predicting and being pessimistic and start supporting your football team a bit more.

Believeeee!

In today's footballing/media/instant gratification mad world, this speaks volumes:



It reminds me it's a privilege and an honour to support Liverpool FC.

Also, required reading:



YNWA

We're all here cause we support the same team. We all want them to do well. I might not agree with the lads who feel the glass is half empty at the moment, but I still read the comments, along with all the others, consign some the the 'Trash' can in the mind, maybe take on board other points well made. It'd be a damn boring place to be if we're all shitting in the same field, facing the same way, 'baaaaaaa'ing' in unison. So keep the moans coming chaps...I'm confident we're on the right path The glass is definately half full !!!

In today's footballing/media/instant gratification mad world, this speaks volumes:



It reminds me it's a privilege and an honour to support Liverpool FC.

Also, required reading:



YNWA

Well said Rush.

Talking about negativity...

It says that the Socialism that Shankly lived by was not one of politics but of his humanitarian nature.
That the poverty he grew up in stood him well in life especially his personal humility.



F.F.S.
He would have turned in his grave last night to see on T.V. the Labour Party hiring the services of S.A.F.. to promote it.
What would he have said about that !?

Well said Rush.

Talking about negativity...

It says that the Socialism that Shankly lived by was not one of politics but of his humanitarian nature.
That the poverty he grew up in stood him well in life especially his personal humility.



F.F.S.
He would have turned in his grave last night to see on T.V. the Labour Party hiring the services of S.A.F.. to promote it.
What would he have said about that !?

And I couldn't help thinking, what would he have made of the Teves incident, refusing to play and all that.

And I couldn't help thinking, what would he have made of the Teves incident, refusing to play and all that.

"If a player had said to Bill Shankly 'I've got to speak to my agent', Bill would have hit him. And I would have held him while he hit him."

I know thats actually from Clough but I think Tevez would have done well to avoid a bloody nose!

"If a player had said to Bill Shankly 'I've got to speak to my agent', Bill would have hit him. And I would have held him while he hit him."

I know thats actually from Clough but I think Tevez would have done well to avoid a bloody nose!

And if Bill was alive after what that tw*t Clough had said about the Hillsborough disaster, Clough would of been F***ing destroyed by the man from Glenbuck.

"I will always remain convinced that those Liverpool fans who died were killed by Liverpool people" - Brian Clough. In other words a total F***ing c**t.

didnt know clough said that what a c**t !!!
found a video the other day 88/89 season and on the back it says about 95 fans dying just thought it was a bit strange anyone know why this is ?

justice for the 96

YNWA

didnt know clough said that what a c**t !!!
found a video the other day 88/89 season and on the back it says about 95 fans dying just thought it was a bit strange anyone know why this is ?

justice for the 96

YNWA

If I'm not mistaken, the 96th only died weeks later, in hospital. Maybe that's the reason.

I own a copy of Brian Clough's autobiography and that part about Hillsborough really was painful to read. He was always very supportive of police, but really went too far in that aspect. Shame cause I had a lot more admiration for him before reading this.

probably should of know that myself diego thanks anyway mate

YNWA

"If a player had said to Bill Shankly 'I've got to speak to my agent', Bill would have hit him. And I would have held him while he hit him."

I know thats actually from Clough but I think Tevez would have done well to avoid a bloody nose!

Clough loved Shankly, but according to several books on Shankly and Tommy Smith's autobiography, Shankly wasn't that keen on Clough.

found a video the other day 88/89 season and on the back it says about 95 fans dying just thought it was a bit strange anyone know why this is ?

justice for the 96

YNWA

If I'm not mistaken, the 96th only died weeks later, in hospital. Maybe that's the reason.

Wasn't weeks mate. Tony Bland the 96th victim had his life support machine switched off by his parents in 1993.

cheers mate but am ashamed i didnt know that to be honest

justice for the 96

YNWA

didnt know clough said that what a c**t !!!
found a video the other day 88/89 season and on the back it says about 95 fans dying just thought it was a bit strange anyone know why this is ?

justice for the 96

YNWA

I think at the time Clough said it it was indeed 95, but our comrade Tony Bland was in a coma and subsequently died, rip Tony,

back on topic;

I think it ironic that the title of this thread is tarnished by even more negativity, mac red has lost it IMO, by contradicting himself consistently,we should all be aspiring to win the title until its mathematically impossible to do so,Corbally sometimes doesn't know whether he's coming or going but at least he admits occasionaly that his heart rules his mind ie the fat b***ard comment, of course everyone is entitled to their opinion that goes without saying, but honestly, try making those opinions in a constructive manner rather than being negative, Mac red i think we can all guess deep down that winning the prem COULD be a bridge too far but for F**k sake we dont want to be reminded of it when things dont go our way, negativity breeds negativity,i'm positive about that, in fact i'm positivley positive, i'm also positive that the owners, directors, manager, coaches, players and most fans are positve that we are heading in a positive direction, positively.

I dont mean to single you out personaly Mac red, your not the only one, its just that your so negative in your opinion.

  In Kenny we Positively trust    YNWA

well said billy thats what every liverpool fan should be thinking, F**k every other team
we are liverpool fc the best club in the world
cmon you reds

YNWA

" Get out of Anfield now son....and keep walking .... even when you reach the Mersey"

We need a Shankly to Tevez thread.

After we win the Derby on Saturday, there better not be one F***ing negative b***ard on here. If you can't enjoy beating our biggest and local rivals without the need to still slag someone or something off then you're not right in the head.

Not only that but we've got two weeks till our next game to enjoy and celebrate the win over the bitters. F***ing happy days these two weeks are gonna be.

After we win the Derby on Saturday, there better not be one F***ing negative b***ard on here. If you can't enjoy beating our biggest and local rivals without the need to still slag someone or something off then you're not right in the head.

Not only that but we've got two weeks till our next game to enjoy and celebrate the win over the bitters. F***ing happy days these two weeks are gonna be.

Make that three weeks mate, cause we're gonna kick the sh*t out of them manc bas**rds too!

They may have a realistic expectation of where we might/should end up at the end of the season, but I doubt this affects pre-game talks/plans, in which I suspect, we plan to win the game up next, then the one after that & the next.  Now if by some miracle we win, the next game, and we plan to win the next & win that... you see the pattern?  Have realistic expectations for a whole is fine, but Kenny & the team plan to win every game they go into, fans hope for the same & while improbable, it is not impossible.

Thank God for positive posters,well said Rodders,as for me I go into every new season believing we can win the lot.Negative posters should realise that success breeds success,for example the 1960s,70s and 80s what more proof would anybody need.

Has to be said this has been no more so highlighted than in todays match thread, people moaning and twisting and being negative as F**k wanting both Suarez and Carroll taken off and who popped up with the goals to win the game.

Wouldn't care we wernt playing so badly and we always looked like we'd go onto win the game which we duely did.

I think we're stuck with the negative ones.  The psychology of it is interesting, but I'm not going to speculate as to their internal state.

Remember they were also here all pre-season saying it wasn't acceptable to let goals in and lose friendly games   

Sometimes I wonder if we were embodied with too much power in our efforts to rid the club of Hicks & Gillett & Roy and now some of our fans are still baying for blood, we've had sweeping changes at teh club, perhaps some of us should apply that to our mindset too.

Sometimes I wonder if we were embodied with too much power in our efforts to rid the club of Hicks & Gillett & Roy and now some of our fans are still baying for blood, we've had sweeping changes at teh club, perhaps some of us should apply that to our mindset too.

No mate, they're just F***ing idiots who need something to moan about.

We beat our local rivals, Carroll scores and we're just generally celebrating everything so the moaning bas**rds are nowhere. Good F***ing riddance I say.