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      Mesut Ozil (Real Madrid)
      Dec 18, 2011 01:24:02 am

      Liverpool track Real Madrid forward

      Published 22:57 17/12/11
      By Tom Hopkinson

      Liverpool will monitor Mesut Ozil’s situation at Real Madrid after Jose Mourinho gave the midfielder a stark ultimatum.

      The inconsistent Germany star has been told by his manager that he will be on his way next summer unless there is a marked improvement.

      http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Liverpool-track-Real-Madrid-man-Mesut-Ozil-article844230.html
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      Re: Mesut Ozil (Real Madrid)
      Reply #1: Dec 18, 2011 01:51:10 am
      Absolutely no chance
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      Reply #2: Dec 18, 2011 01:52:09 am
      Daily Mirror spreading the sh*te from their rumour mill again I see.
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      Reply #3: Dec 18, 2011 01:55:30 am
      Daily Mirror spreading the sh*te from their rumour mill again I see.

      Well more from the people, which is owned by the mirror, can't see it though and reading the full story, it sounds like a bit of a kick up the arse from Jose.
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      Reply #4: Dec 18, 2011 02:06:46 am

      Why not ? This is the club that have sold Wesley Sneijder for €15 million, because they were making room for Kaka. Considering that they are strongly pursuing Eden Hazard, Mesut Ozil might very easy be on the market in the summer.
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      Reply #5: Dec 18, 2011 03:48:46 am
      Why not ? This is the club that have sold Wesley Sneijder for €15 million, because they were making room for Kaka. Considering that they are strongly pursuing Eden Hazard, Mesut Ozil might very easy be on the market in the summer.
      For someone who acts like he knows everything you really do make some stupid comments. If you think that Sneijder's situation back then is anything similar to Ozil''s current situation, well, then that says alot about your intelligence, or the lack there of.
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      Reply #6: Dec 18, 2011 03:52:22 am
      Ozil is an amazing player, we would be lucky to have him.
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      Reply #7: Dec 18, 2011 07:42:20 am
      For someone who acts like he knows everything you really do make some stupid comments. If you think that Sneijder's situation back then is anything similar to Ozil''s current situation, well, then that says alot about your intelligence, or the lack there of.

      For someone who acts like he knows everything about Dutch football, you should remember that Sneijder's situation back then was very similar to Ozil's current situation at Real Madrid: A very good first season, followed by a mediocre second season. At the end of the second season, Sneijder was replaced by Perez' new toy Kaka. With Real Madrid actively pursuing Eden Hazard, Ozil's situation at Real Maderid is not only similar to Sneijder's. It is pretty much identical.
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      Re: Mesut Ozil (Real Madrid)
      Reply #8: Dec 18, 2011 11:02:31 am
      I would love to have him here, but I really doubt it he would come
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      Reply #9: Dec 18, 2011 12:09:21 pm
      Ozil is an amazing player, we would be lucky to have him.

      Don't get too carried away, he has been sh*t for Real this season, which is why this is a warning from Jose for Mesut to improve or he'll be getting jettisoned in the summer.
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      Reply #10: Dec 18, 2011 07:39:17 pm
      I could dream.  big fan of this guy.
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      Reply #11: Dec 18, 2011 07:51:46 pm
      Don't get too carried away, he has been sh*t for Real this season, which is why this is a warning from Jose for Mesut to improve or he'll be getting jettisoned in the summer.

      You shouldn't read too much into form then HR. He's a quality player and always will be. If he isn't performing he's hardly the first world class player to underperform at Real and go on to play well elsewhere. We'd be hugely lucky to have Ozil at Liverpool, I'd welcome him with open arms.
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      Reply #12: Dec 18, 2011 07:58:56 pm
      This is Jose playing mind games getting the player to get his sh*t together.I think he is a great player would love him here,but i cant see it happening.
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      Reply #13: Dec 18, 2011 11:59:19 pm
      I would put money on no one associated with us has even went to see him play.
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      Reply #14: Dec 19, 2011 12:48:56 am
      Nice to be linked to a player of his caliber.

      The number 10 is vacant. And we could do with a young, talented CAM in our side.
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      Reply #15: Dec 19, 2011 11:17:30 am
      Would be a fantastic signing
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      Reply #16: Dec 19, 2011 01:18:30 pm
      This is Jose playing mind games getting the player to get his sh*t together. I think he is a great player would love him here,but i cant see it happening.

      Here is the list of Real Madrid's "rejects" in the last 5 years:

      Arjen Robben
      Wesley Sneijder
      Roberto Soldado
      Rafael van der Vaart
      Alvaro Negredo
      Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
      Antonio Cassano
      Jonathan Woodgate
      Fernando Gago
      Dani Parejo
      Cicinho
      Jose Manuel Jurado
      Diego Lopez
      Julio Baptista
      Javier Saviola
      Ezequiel Garay
      Javi Garcia
      Juanfran
      Pedro Leon
      Royston Drenthe
      Miguel Torres
      Adrian Gonzalez
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      Reply #17: Dec 19, 2011 03:08:07 pm
      I doubt this will happen as I see the perceived "ultimatum" from Mourinho as being a mere kick in the ass to motivate one of his players.  However, I also understand where MacRed is coming from - Madrid have fu**ed off some true world class players in the past few years because they have had their heads turned by the next big thing playing somewhere else.  They will certainly be looking to sign Neymar and a few others this summer, so I could see them allowing Mesut to leave.  If they do, it will be a very stupid bit of business on their part IMO. 

      As much as I hate Ronaldo because of his association with the Scum, I can appreciate and respect the fact that he is a very hard working player and he has truly put in the time to become one of the great players to ever play the game.  The fact that he thinks so highly of Mesut means a lot:

      Ozil joined the Blancos from Werder Bremen in the summer of 2010 and has become an important first team member and Ronaldo is very pleased to have the attacking midfielder at his side at the Bernabeu.

      "Yes, Mesut has made me better. If you have great players around you, your play becomes stronger," Ronaldo was quoted as saying by Kicker.

      "Ozil is fantastic. He can read the game and knows when he needs to play the pass, when he should take a dribble - that's simply class.

      "We have a really good connection and this is still getting better. I love to play with him, he is fantastic."

      Ronaldo then discussed his personal development and stated that he still has room for improvement in certain areas of his game.

      "Well, you never know your limits. And of course I can do a few things better."

      Ronaldo has scored 13 goals in 11 Liga encounters in the 2011-12 campaign.

      http://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/2011/11/07/2746806/real-madrids-cristiano-ronaldo-mesut-ozil-has-made-me-a
      « Last Edit: Dec 19, 2011 03:24:17 pm by harrydunn08 »
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      Reply #18: Dec 19, 2011 03:12:27 pm
      Would love him here.
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      Reply #19: Dec 19, 2011 03:55:01 pm
      We'd need to secure Champions League football before I think he'd consider coming here.
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      Reply #20: Dec 19, 2011 04:23:52 pm
      Would absolutely love to see him here! The boy is class, proven, and worth breaking the bank for, IMO. But it's highly unlikely this January, and his stock will only rise even higher after the Euros (unless he has a God-awful tournament, also unlikely). Like RedLFCBlood said, we would at least have to have secured a Champions League spot before he'd consider. Such an unrealistic rumor, though.
      « Last Edit: Dec 19, 2011 04:51:18 pm by TheRedMosquito »
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      Reply #21: Dec 19, 2011 07:00:54 pm
      For someone who acts like he knows everything about Dutch football, you should remember that Sneijder's situation back then was very similar to Ozil's current situation at Real Madrid: A very good first season, followed by a mediocre second season. At the end of the second season, Sneijder was replaced by Perez' new toy Kaka. With Real Madrid actively pursuing Eden Hazard, Ozil's situation at Real Maderid is not only similar to Sneijder's. It is pretty much identical.
      Sneijder was injured for the first 3 months of his 2nd season, and after that was frequently played out of position and rotated with the newly signed Van der Vaart and Guti. But Pellegrini really wanted to keep both Robben and Sneijder. The main reason for Sneijder's transfer was Perez' new presidency, he cleared out the team, and bought a new one. Completely different situation.
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      Reply #22: Dec 19, 2011 07:28:49 pm
      Sneijder was injured for the first 3 months of his 2nd season, and after that was frequently played out of position and rotated with the newly signed Van der Vaart and Guti. But Pellegrini really wanted to keep both Robben and Sneijder. The main reason for Sneijder's transfer was Perez' new presidency, he cleared out the team, and bought a new one. Completely different situation.

      I believe that the point Mac is trying to make is that Madrid have a history of selling off very talented players because they get starry eyed by new starlets that they can bring in.  Mesut is a great player, but Madrid seem to be very interested in both Neymar and Hazard at the moment and they may be looking to make space in their roster for the addition of these two in the summer.  Mesut, Callejon, and Kaka are a few players who may be sacrificed in order to make room for the new wave of players signed by the club next summer....
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      Reply #23: Dec 19, 2011 07:32:28 pm
      Just sh*t stirring as he is out of form. Absolute class player, though. I think he would hold up to the "physical" demands of the premiership, as he holds off defenders very well.

      Probably zero chance, though. But it would be great :)
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      Reply #24: Dec 19, 2011 07:39:22 pm
      I remember when Rafa had agreed a fee for Ozil before that world cup where he showed everyone what he could do and his price tag shot up.

      Hadn't he agreed a very modest fee with Bremen, but the previous owners weren't up for funding it?

      Anyway, as much as I doubt this will happen, it does give me butterflies thinking about the possibility!
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      Reply #25: Dec 19, 2011 07:40:56 pm
      I believe that the point Mac is trying to make is that Madrid have a history of selling off very talented players because they get starry eyed by new starlets that they can bring in.  Mesut is a great player, but Madrid seem to be very interested in both Neymar and Hazard at the moment and they may be looking to make space in their roster for the addition of these two in the summer.  Mesut, Callejon, and Kaka are a few players who may be sacrificed in order to make room for the new wave of players signed by the club next summer....
      Yeah, but back in that situation Perez did whatever he wanted and the manager didn't have any say. Mourinho has a big say now, and he wouldn't just write him off. Contrary to Perez I think Mourinho actually knows what he's doing. He's just trying to motivate Ozil and get him back on track. The kid's just having some personal issues. I'd sooner expect Kaka, Granero, Altintop and Callejon to be out the door. Either way, at most he'll be sold this summer, not this winter. But apparently we're also speculating already on who we might buy this summer.
      « Last Edit: Dec 19, 2011 07:59:34 pm by Bier »
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      Reply #26: Dec 19, 2011 08:11:05 pm
      Yeah, but back in that situation Perez did whatever he wanted and the manager didn't have any say. Mourinho has a big say now, and he wouldn't just write him off. Contrary to Perez I think Mourinho actually knows what he's doing. He's just trying to motivate Ozil and get him back on track. The kid's just having some personal issues. I'd sooner expect Kaka, Granero, Altintop and Callejon to be out the door. Either way, at most he'll be sold this summer, not this winter. But apparently we're also speculating already on who we might buy this summer.

      I completely agree with all of this.  I just wouldn't be surprised if Madrid do decide to move for Hazard, Neymar, Hulk, Lucas Moura, etc this summer and allow some of their current crop including Mesut to move on.  They have a recent history of making ridiculous transfer decisions, so I can't put anything past them.....
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      Reply #27: Dec 19, 2011 08:18:57 pm
      But those decisions were often made out of desperation. Real is likely going to win La Liga this season. They need to keep building on what they have, or they can start over. Mourinho knows that.

      But if his personal issues do continue to keep him from performing, then that's actually worrying for his future aswell.
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      Reply #28: Dec 19, 2011 08:39:40 pm
      He will not move in Janurary though we might have interest in the Summer.
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      Reply #29: Dec 20, 2011 12:52:05 am
      not even in a dream
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      Reply #30: Dec 20, 2011 02:29:20 am
      Yeah, but back in that situation Perez did whatever he wanted and the manager didn't have any say. Mourinho has a big say now, and he wouldn't just write him off. Contrary to Perez I think Mourinho actually knows what he's doing. He's just trying to motivate Ozil and get him back on track. The kid's just having some personal issues. I'd sooner expect Kaka, Granero, Altintop and Callejon to be out the door. Either way, at most he'll be sold this summer, not this winter. But apparently we're also speculating already on who we might buy this summer.

      Perez has sacked much bigger managers than Maureen. If Perez wants Hazard and Neymar, Ozil will be gone in the summer.
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      Reply #31: Dec 20, 2011 03:08:55 am
      But he doesn't want to sack Mourinho. And it's pretty obvious Mourinho has been given alot of control compared to some managers before him.
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      Reply #32: Dec 20, 2011 08:48:54 am
      But he doesn't want to sack Mourinho. And it's pretty obvious Mourinho has been given alot of control compared to some managers before him.

      If Maureen doesn't win the Champions League or La Liga title this season, he will be sacked. It has always been, and always will be that way under Perez.
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      Reply #33: Dec 20, 2011 10:02:49 am
      If Maureen doesn't win the Champions League or La Liga title this season, he will be sacked. It has always been, and always will be that way under Perez.


      True and didn't Madrid fire Del Bosque after winning the league?

      Ozil is a fantastic player and one I would love here.
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      Reply #34: Dec 20, 2011 10:07:07 am
      The finest player at "giving it the eyes" I've ever seen, think he'd be a great addition in all seriousness.
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      Reply #35: Dec 20, 2011 05:44:35 pm
      True and didn't Madrid fire Del Bosque after winning the league?

      Ozil is a fantastic player and one I would love here.

      And Fabio Capello, because their football was too "boring"
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      Reply #36: Dec 24, 2011 11:01:25 am
      Ozil won't come here. That's that.
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      Reply #37: Dec 24, 2011 03:14:38 pm
      I would jizz my pants multiple times if he came here. Severely doubt he will though.

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