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      Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Jan 16, 2012 11:14:32 pm
         

      Adidas AG (ADS) declined to renew its apparel deal with 18-time English soccer champion Liverpool because the price was too high given the team’s poor performance, the chief executive officer of the world’s second- biggest sporting goods maker said today.

      Liverpool, which is also a five-time European champion, has replaced Adidas with a club record, 6-year, 25 million pound ($38.3 million) contract with Warrior Sports, a subsidiary of New Balance Athletic Shoe Inc. The accord, Warrior’s first major soccer contract, begins next season and is worth almost double the current agreement with Adidas.

      Liverpool has struggled to recapture glories that made it the dominant team in English soccer during the 1970s and 80s. It hasn’t won a league championship since 1990 and was overtaken by Manchester United as the holder of most championships last season. Still, its famous red shirt remains among the most popular. Liverpool didn’t make the Champions League, the region’s top club competition, for this season. It’s seventh in the Premier League, 13 points behind leader Manchester City.

      “The gap between their performance on the field and what the number should be is not in balance,” Adidas CEO Herbert Hainer said in an interview in Munich today. “Then we said, ‘Okay we will not do it. That’s the end of the story.’” Liverpool didn’t respond.

      The team’s lack of success hasn’t stopped it signing other commercial agreements. London-based bank Standard Chartered is paying a record 81.5 million pounds to have its logo displayed on its jerseys for four years and the team’s sales department has also signed new sponsors like Turkish tourism.

      Benefits?

      The contract with Warrior may benefit the team further because it allows Liverpool to retain control over all merchandise not related to the clothing the team wears, something that it had ceded to Adidas. Still, it will no longer be able to rely on the sports-makers vast global supply chain.

      “ It all depends on the success and the effort and the popularity, the exposure on TV, revenue you can generate by merchandising,” Hainer said. “This all has to be brought in line between what you offer and what you get. We thought their asking and the delivering is not in the right balance.”

      Adidas faces a big year ahead. It’s a main partner to the two biggest sports events taking place, soccer’s European Championship and then the Olympic Games in London. Hainer said from a commercial point of view the soccer event will be a bigger boost, while the Olympics is the biggest platform the company has to show its commitment to sports. The company enjoyed record 1.5 billion euro ($1.9 billion) in sales in 2010 because of the World Cup in South Africa. He says it will do even better this year.

      “We will definitely beat the 1.5 billion euro revenue target in 2012: there’s no doubt for me,” said Hainer.


      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-16/liverpool-s-on-field-performance-didn-t-warrant-price-adidas-head-says.html


      So dose this mean  the like of Chelsea are selling more jerseys then us.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #1: Jan 16, 2012 11:17:50 pm
      I commented on this in the Warrior thread and I just feel it's a bit of sour grapes. Warrior came in with a fantastic offer that Adidas couldn't or wouldn't match.

      I'm sure they would love to still be our kit supplier and I can't imagine the likes of Chelsea selling more than us.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #2: Jan 17, 2012 12:30:36 am
      In terms of global sponshorship,this is akin to us losing CL status.We need to get back there quickly.Nowadays the game has been corrupted,in favour of Commercial interests,winning a domestic Cup competition,gives "bragging rites", but European football,especially the ECL determines the success of the club financially.We need to be in it,top 4 failure is not an option.NESV and Dalgleish/Comolli.need to respond now.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #3: Jan 17, 2012 01:04:23 am
      This is just Warrior stepping up to take a gamble. Warrior makes some great Lacross and Hockey gear! This is a bold move for them, they put all thier chips on this.  If it works out, LFC won't be the only team wearing it!
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #4: Jan 17, 2012 01:07:33 am
      I have no idea what this mean's for how many jersey's etc we're going to sell.But surely if we can spend that money wisely we can go back where we belong in the champions league and fighting for titles and that in itself will boost sales.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #5: Jan 17, 2012 01:40:50 am
      And when our performance were at the optimum with rafa in the league and europe the adidas sponsorship did not warrant the price they were paying as the exposure of the teams exploits under rafa were exceptional.

      Adidas have had it F***ing cheap with us.
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      Reply #6: Jan 17, 2012 02:11:22 am
      Absolutely the club's performance have not been good enough but the fact is Liverpool shirts sell like hot cakes around the world and that just makes the statement quite empty. It certainly a case of Warrior coming in and warding adidas off.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #7: Jan 17, 2012 08:55:37 am
      Adidas AG (ADS) declined to renew its apparel deal with 18-time English soccer champion Liverpool because the price was too high given the team’s poor performance, the chief executive officer of the world’s second- biggest sporting goods maker said today...

      ...“The gap between their performance on the field and what the number should be is not in balance,” Adidas CEO Herbert Hainer said in an interview in Munich today. “Then we said, ‘Okay we will not do it. That’s the end of the story.’”

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-16/liverpool-s-on-field-performance-didn-t-warrant-price-adidas-head-says.html

      This statement sounds a lot like sour grapes to be honest. Yeah I can see that Adidas wouldn't be getting as much T.V. coverage, (advertising), as before but the fact remains: our replica shirt an merchandise sales are always very high.

      Surely sales are the point behind advertising and their loss in sales would out-weigh their sponsorship costs? Strange.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #8: Jan 17, 2012 09:50:08 am
       I think it's poor form. If you don't do the deal, you walk away and deal with someone else which I'm sure Adidas will anyway. What you don't do is bleat about "performance on the pitch" and other such bollocks. We ask a price, they pay it or they don't.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #9: Jan 17, 2012 09:54:15 am
      Totally agree, bigmick. Not sure what they hoped to achieve from such a statement other than to make themselves look like tw*ts. It sounds like the Warrior deal is done so ADIDAS aren't going to get a better price out of us.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #10: Jan 17, 2012 09:58:04 am
      I would imagine Adidas were keen to keep the contract and were blown away by Warrior and are now pissed off they don't have Liverpool FC on their books.

      I struggle to think of any club who Adidas have who would sell more merchandise than us and they have lost that now.

      The whole deal with Warrior seems like it will only benefit the club so I'm not too bothered what Adidas think or say about it.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #11: Jan 17, 2012 10:00:13 am
      What, and the performances of someone like Derby or Stoke did warrant being with Adidas ??? I
      Like Adidas as much as the next guy but as others have said, just sounds like sour grapes. Warrior came in with a better offer and Adidas didn't want to match it. Have to e honest though, would far prefer Adidas. Think Warrior shirts look cheap and fake. Maybe that will change when I see it in the flesh as opposed to in pictures.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #12: Jan 17, 2012 10:00:51 am
      Yeah cos all these teams are pulling trees up ............


       Chelsea
       Derby County
       Forest Green Rovers
       Hull City
       Liverpool(Ending 2012/13)
       Macclesfield Town
       Middlesbrough
       North Ferriby United
       Sholing
       Stoke City
       Swindon Town
       Vauxhall Motors
       West Bromwich Albion
       Worksop Town
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #13: Jan 17, 2012 10:05:56 am
      Yeah cos all these teams are pulling trees up ............


       Chelsea
       Derby County
       Forest Green Rovers
       Hull City
       Liverpool(Ending 2012/13)
       Macclesfield Town
       Middlesbrough
       North Ferriby United
       Sholing
       Stoke City
       Swindon Town
       Vauxhall Motors
       West Bromwich Albion
       Worksop Town

       I don't think Adidas's point (such as it is) is that a team is required to win the Champions League every season in order to warrant branded shirts. Clearly they are making a corrulation (quite rightly) between the price and the amount of success/exposure. That is only natural for them to do that (they wouldn't give a pub team 10 million quid a year obviously), but it is ethically extemely poor business to discuss things so bitterly.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #14: Jan 17, 2012 10:12:35 am
      Should be in the Warrior thread really.

      The deal ends this summer.

      New Warrior kits in June/July.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #15: Jan 17, 2012 10:16:14 am
      Won't be the first time Adidas messed up...

      Michael Jordan: Adidas's Biggest Mistake!
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #16: Jan 17, 2012 10:56:01 am
      Adidas rep sound bitter!
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #17: Jan 17, 2012 12:10:20 pm
      The premise of an investment is that the party who makes such a commitment for their eventual profit does so in good faith and in a long term situation.
      Sponsorship qualifies an investment and to act as Adidas have done is reneging on their side of the deal, to say nothing of making negative comments about their former business associate.
      Thoroughly short sighted work practice describes it perfectly.
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #18: Jan 17, 2012 12:37:27 pm
      It's not us it's you Adidas.
      It's over.
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      Re: Liverpool?? Performance Didn?? Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #19: Jan 17, 2012 12:41:18 pm
      I take it Adidas weren't in favour of the N.A.P.M campaign. ;)
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #20: Jan 17, 2012 02:14:51 pm
      The deal ends this summer.
      New Warrior kits in June/July.
      Christ !!...Thats another whoppin hole in my wallet when my kids want the new one home away & third....
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      Re: Liverpool’s Performance Didn’t Warrant Price, Adidas CEO Says
      Reply #21: Jan 17, 2012 05:10:20 pm
      Christ !!...Thats another whoppin hole in my wallet when my kids want the new one home away & third....
      Hang on to the old one's mate, they'll be worth more than you paid for soon enough - F**k it just hang on to them anyway.
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      Reply #22: Jan 17, 2012 05:38:34 pm
      Now aren't we Adidas 2nd biggest selling jersey world wide, and not far behind real Madrid. 

      Yeah they are sour.  They wanted us cheap.  But are they forgetting how big our brand is worldwide?

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