You're Kenny, we need 5 changes, so who goes out and who comes in?

Apologies if there is a similar thread.

After yesterday's abysmal display from all but two or three players, and of the recent performances against lowly teams we should be brushing aside, is it time for Kenny to gamble and try something different,

we've had 22 games now to nurture, coach, tinkle and generally get the side playing as one unit, full of confidence and up there among the top 4 challenging/or at least being considered as serious challengers,

nothing seems to be working, lack of goals has cost us dear for example, yes we have had to do without Stevie, but we cant keep relying on him to pick us up everytime, we have missed Lucas to but again we should be able to cope,

so is it time to to give our so called main players a kick up the jacksey, and render them a spell in the ressies, so i reckon 5 changes are needed, so which 5 goes out and which 5 come in, these are mine......

Out, Maxi, Kuyt, Downing, Adam, Carroll,

In, Suso, Adorjan, Sterling, Coady, Morgan,

i'm not to bothered about reputations, i'm not even bothered with price tags, what i am bothered about tho is how much more frutration, disappointment, are we to put up with from professional footballers thinking they have made it because they represent LFC,

i hope Kenny absolutley hammers the players after yesterday, i'm sure he will, can you imagine what Shanks would have done?

i believe if after this month, we are out of the FA cup, have no real hope of CL football next season, we should start preparing for next season,start blooding the young guns, get them involved with the pace of the prem, the blood and thunder, get used to crowds and atmosphere's,

i dont expect Kenny to make wholesale changes for this wednesday's semi, that would be suicidal, so i would be saying to the players, you have two games to show why we brought you here,

IMO, its a must we buy now this window,maybe the Bolton game was the reminder to KD & DC  that we need to pronto,expecially a striker,

so lads and ladettes who would drop and who would you bring in?

Possibly 5 is too many at once Billy. You need to drip feed these lads in or they may not kick on, myself if I had to look at this I'd go with 2, the two I think have a real chance at this moment in time to make an impression.
I'd bring Coady in and Sterling, get them training with the first team and involved in the 16. These two for me are the closest to being able to make that step. With an outside chance from the bench here and there of young Morgan, but I just don't think he is quite ready yet.

Coady and Sterling I think could make an impact right now.

Possibly 5 is too many at once Billy. You need to drip feed these lads in or they may not kick on, myself if I had to look at this I'd go with 2, the two I think have a real chance at this moment in time to make an impression.
I'd bring Coady in and Sterling, get them training with the first team and involved in the 16. These two for me are the closest to being able to make that step. With an outside chance from the bench here and there of young Morgan, but I just don't think he is quite ready yet.

Coady and Sterling I think could make an impact right now.

You maybe right fella,to many at once, but, i don't think they would or could do much worse, especially after the results after this month, say for example we get to the Carling cup final, and do F**k all else, i would seriously think about it then,

i'm aware that to many changes at once would be a massive gamble, but how hungry would those lads be, have a solid back 4 of Kelly,Skrtle,Agger,Enrique, Gerrard and Coady sat in front,with Bellers and Sterling providing the width, and Suarez and Morgan up top, obviously Suarez is still out so maybe Adorjan in there with Adam, they play in the ressies so know each others game, massive gamble i agree but got to be worth a go.

Wouldn't mind Silva, Adorjan and Coady featuring in the squad.
As for dropping players,
I don't think Carroll and Downing could argue about being dropped and Adam's performance has been poor since we lost Lucas.

OUT: Adam, Downing, Maxi
IN: Kuyt, Spearing (if fit, if not Coates at DM), Shelvey

I'd prefer to see Agger played as DM if Spearing isn't fit or Carra even though I agree he doesn't really have the pace, but he does have the game intelligence to put him far ahead of the likes of Adam. Coady isn't ready to be thrown in at this point of the season, if he plays well sure it will do him the world of good but imagine him making a mistake that costs us a place in either cup, not what a developing young player needs and unfair to stick him in that situation.

Carroll needs dropping but our lack of options hurt hard, Bellamy up front on his own is asking a lot of him at his age but I'd prefer to take that option personally with Gerrard and Shelvey supporting behind him, Maxi on the left wing and Johnson on the right wing with Kelly coming in behind him.

                                 Reina
      Kelly          Skrtel          Agger      Enrique
                               Spearing
Johnson                                                    Maxi
                    Shelvey           Gerrard
                                Bellamy
               

Billy the young players you think should be  brought in might be up to it they may not be up to it , but the one thing they would give you is maximum effort and that should be the minimum this team gives , something this current bunch certainly is not.

Why the hell would you drop maxi, hes our 3rd best goal threat this season for chances converted?

All those youth players are too inexperienced to move up at the moment but are all promising, although one or two more bad results will really end our 4th place hopes so maybe now is the time to blood them in.

Five changes would be too many for me but I'd love to see what Sterling can do off the bench in a couple of games. The lad is blessed with pace and trickery and he will get defenders on the back foot and run at players. His skill set is everything we don't have and everything we need at the moment. I don't know if he's ready but there's truly only one way to find out. Coady is the other lad who might be worth a look at given our problems at the DM position and our lack of balance when Spearing isn't available.

Want to see Sterling in...

The Bolton game sis the only one we have played badly in. Like Kenny said they had their minds on other games. I we have to work to get our team playing the way Kenny wants. It's no good buying a great play maker if there are no players to make clever runs off him. It's not like Madrid (who have spent heaps) are playing out of this world football, they just know the drill and stick to it. We need to keep playing our football. However it would be good to have a target man  like Torres who can score and stretch defences.

5 changes is maybe a little too much but I'd really like Shelvey to get a run of games and drop Adam to the bench.

I'll be honest and admit I haven't got to see any reserve football this season so don't know how the lads are progressing but Coady and Sterling are two who could offer something to the first team from what I seen of them.

I can't believe some of the things I'm reading,lads have use watched much of the reserve team this year?? Conor coady is a very basic footballer,no pace flys into rash tackles all the time and is very limited when it comes tonoassing,he hasn't got wot it takes to make the step up,just because he's a local lad ppl seem to think that gives them the right but it doesn't Adam Morgan is another I hear ppl talkin about but seriously lads have use watched him in the u18's recently?? Very very poor to say the least now I will say young sterling looks like a player who's got abit about him,wouldn't do him any harm gettin in round the 1st team squad

We've went from having players like alonso,mascherano in the DM position to lookin for players like coady spearing adam hendo and boys like tht to take us to the next level...  Reality check needed,Kenny needs to start lookin for quality players like we used to have,someone who can pick a pass which we're lacking ever since we lost xabi!!

5 changes isn't too many because ultimately there's at least 5 players, in the first team squad, who aren't performing to the standard Liverpool Football Club expect. Personally I've not been over impressed by Enrique in the last couple of weeks, he seems to of gone off the boil and was awful against Bolton as was Johnson on the other side - wouldn't mind seeing Kelly and Robinson being given their go to show these big name players that they're not infallible.

In the middle, Adam shouldn't be near the starting line up once our Jay is fit. Henderson, I still like the lad. Still see something in him though I do sometimes wonder what. Wouldn't mind Coady getting a run, allowing Jay to play a more advanced game as opposed to having to hold which isn't his natural game. His natural game is to be here, there and everywhere. Would also like Jackie Dunn to be rewarded with some games because he's a F***ing great player in the making.

Wide players, anyone but who've we currently got. Kuyt, Downing and Maxi simply aren't up to it. They're not good enough.

Up top, quite clear Andy Carroll isn't scoring goals. So swerve him out the side and lash Adam Morgan in.

F**k this bollocks of them not being old enough, some of our greatest players have been given debuts at an age when some would consider them not "old enough" and they've gone on to fair quite well. End of the day, they wouldn't be given a go if the first team players were doing a good enough job in the first place. They're replacing players playing under par - therefore there's nothing really to lose. If Morgan goes 5 games without a goal, what difference does it make to Andy Carroll going five games without a goal or on the other hand we could find ourselves a real gem and save us from splashing out millions on yet another F***ing average player.

Lash the kids in!

I'd definitely give Johnson a run on the wings and put Kelly right back.

Bring Shelvey into the squad and play Bellamy often if his knees allow.

Adam shouldn't be starting games at the moment.

If Morgan goes 5 games without a goal, what difference does it make to Andy Carroll going five games without a goal or on the other hand we could find ourselves a real gem and save us from splashing out millions on yet another f**king average player.

Excellent point here.

Simply dnt get this Adam Morgan for the 1st team talk,the kid is playin shocking in the u18's and hasn't scored in a while there so wot makes you think he's the answer to our problems?? Granted Andys not playin well but for god sake it's not all his fault,buy a couple of wingers who cam cross a ball and play to his strengths and u mite see the player we thought we where buyin but honestly lads messi would struggle in our team at the min,simply to many players not up to LFC standard,Adam downing dirk maxi jay are all players not good enough to wear the reds shirt but Kenny plays them because they're british instead of going out and buyin 3/4 of the top talents in Europe like we did a few years back with,Nando xabi mascherano,all players bought of good money at a young age and turned out world class,stop with this buy british nonsense or let's be honest wot have we won as long time and how many world class players do we really have???

If Morgan goes 5 games without a goal, what difference does it make to Andy Carroll going five games without a goal or on the other hand we could find ourselves a real gem and save us from splashing out millions on yet another f**king average player.

I'm afraid Morgan is having a bit of a dry spell right now. Shows his frustration, I'd be inclined to give Ngoo the duty.
Anyway, Adorjan, Coady and Silva for Adam, Downing and Carroll. A DM is badly needed (Coady), Silva, unlike Downing, always tries to create something out of nothing and Adorjan would be brilliant feeding balls to Bellamy/Ngoo

            Reina
   Kelly Agger Coates Enrique
         
      Gerrard Coady/Spearo
Silva   Adorjan/Shelvey  Bellamy
                Ngoo

I'm afraid Morgan is having a bit of a dry spell right now. Shows his frustration, I'd be inclined to give Ngoo the duty.
Anyway, Adorjan, Coady and Silva for Adam, Downing and Carroll. A DM is badly needed (Coady), Silva, unlike Downing, always tries to create something out of nothing and Adorjan would be brilliant feeding balls to Bellamy/Ngoo

            Reina
   Kelly Agger Coates Enrique
         
      Gerrard Coady/Spearo
Silva   Adorjan/Shelvey  Bellamy
                Ngoo

Hang on mate, Morgan is having a dry spell so you'd pick Ngoo who has one goal all season for the reserves and non for the youth side. (that's if I've got me facts right). One goal all season is a dry spell surely?

And our problem is scoring goals, Morgan is the most natural finisher the club has at any level. He fits the bill as to what we need.

So Adam Morgan struggles to make an impact in the reserves, gets moved back down to the U18s and continues to struggle there but somehow we should be trying to give him first team minutes.  Makes sense.

If we had to promote a striker, I'd go with Eccleston personally.  I don't even think Adam Morgan will make the grade, he's far too one dimensional IMHO.  Having said that, I'd still love for nothing more than Morgan himself to pin these words on his locker and call me out for being incredibly wrong about it all after his seventh consecutive season with yet another double digit goal return, can't see it mind.

Anyways, back to playing Kenny.

OUT: Carragher (wages far too high for what he offers to the team), Aurelio (fitness), Adam (can't defend to an acceptable standard), Kuyt (last chance to cash in for a somewhat decent amount), Cole (see Carra).

IN: Chivu (replacement for Aurelio and Carragher), Badelj (far superior to Adam IMHO), Krasic (out of favour at Juventus, a different type of winger option) - all three would probably cost a total of £20m combined and there's a good chance we'd be saving money on wages too.

OUT: Carragher (wages far too high for what he offers to the team), Aurelio (fitness), Adam (can't defend to an acceptable standard), Kuyt (last chance to cash in for a somewhat decent amount), Cole (see Carra).

IN: Chivu (replacement for Aurelio and Carragher), Badelj (far superior to Adam IMHO), Krasic (out of favour at Juventus, a different type of winger option) - all three would probably cost a total of £20m combined and there's a good chance we'd be saving money on wages too.

I don't think this was a transfer-related thread - but fair points on the rest of your post.

I don't think this was a transfer-related thread - but fair points on the rest of your post.

Sorry, can't seem to edit it for whatever reason.  Appears I've misinterpreted the topic, not the first time and won't be my last.  Apologies.

To help steer back on topic:

Kelly, Shelvey, Maxi, Coates, Spearing are the five changes I'd be looking to make.

A couple of things before we hit the panic button and start selling players. Because I don't think Fenway Sports are going to give Kenny any more bags of gold soon.

Carroll looks out of sorts when he's playing it on the deck, and dropping too deep to try to make an impact. The guy lives or dies on decent crosses into the box. So, apart from Gerrard and Bellamy, we should have the coaches taking Adam, Downing, Johnson and Enrique to one side and getting them to knock crosses into the box, all frakking day. The lack of a decent ball on to Carroll's nut is beyond me - why buy him if you're not going to feed him with the fuel he needs? And that means stop the dumb 'whipping it in' ball from corners that 99 per cent of the time fails to beat the first defender.

Let Downing have a run of games playing where he's supposed to. He's got the pace and him, Bellamy and Suarez - when he's back - up front can cause havoc.

Get Jockey to show Enrique where row Z is at Anfield. Tell him it's not important that he try to dribble out of defence every single time.

Adam, for me, is the weakest link. He might put in more miles than anyone else during a game, but he gives away too many free kicks in dangerous areas and his passing is worse than ordinary. And he's supposed to be our creative hub?

Blood some youngsters. I'd love to see Sterling unleashed. And Kelly at right back, pushing Johnson up the wing, As Dunlop Liddell Shankly said. And why not for Wednesday? I don't think it would be suicide, because if we keep the same players and we put on a performance like we did against Bolton, City will walk it.

One sale I reckon we should rush through: Kuyt's legs have gone. A shadow of what he was even last season. He's 32 and he hasn't stopped running for ten years. We could get, what, £3M for him if we let him go now?

                       Reina

Kelly       Skrtel        Agger       Johnson

            Coady         Gerrard

Silva             Shelvey              Enrique

                     Carroll   

Subs: Doni, Carra, Coates, Henderson, Downing, Bellamy, Kuyt.   

Picking a forward line up is where I have the most difficulty.
I know we can take it we are going to struggle for balance without Lucas or Spearing,
but upfront we have seen the likes of Kuyt and Maxi fall off from what was a scintillating end to last season.
Add to that Downing and Carroll not delivering and it becomes very difficult to try and guess what Kenny should
do to rectify the situation.

So Adam Morgan struggles to make an impact in the reserves, gets moved back down to the U18s and continues to struggle there but somehow we should be trying to give him first team minutes.  Makes sense.

If we had to promote a striker, I'd go with Eccleston personally.  I don't even think Adam Morgan will make the grade, he's far too one dimensional IMHO.  Having said that, I'd still love for nothing more than Morgan himself to pin these words on his locker and call me out for being incredibly wrong about it all after his seventh consecutive season with yet another double digit goal return, can't see it mind.

Anyways, back to playing Kenny.

OUT: Carragher (wages far too high for what he offers to the team), Aurelio (fitness), Adam (can't defend to an acceptable standard), Kuyt (last chance to cash in for a somewhat decent amount), Cole (see Carra).

IN: Chivu (replacement for Aurelio and Carragher), Badelj (far superior to Adam IMHO), Krasic (out of favour at Juventus, a different type of winger option) - all three would probably cost a total of £20m combined and there's a good chance we'd be saving money on wages too.

So rather than pick a young promising forward, you'd rather spend money on somebody not good enough for Juventus - makes sense eh? Get a grip lad. And you'd rather pick Eccleston with three reserve goals over Morgan who has four reserve goals - makes sense eh? Get a grip lad. Now I'd expect a lad with first team experience, both here and in the lower leagues, to be doing a whole lot better than a lad who is in his first year with the reserves - wouldn't you?

Eccleston will never make it here because he's not good enough. That's why he's been loaned out to League 1 sides for three consecutive seasons. Whereas the quality youngsters get loaned out then make their mark on the first team - Kelly at Huddersfield, Spearing at Leicester. Hopefully Shelvey at Blackpool.

"Not good enough for Juventus" is a load of rubbish.

Reina

Kelly       Skrtel        Agger       Johnson

            Coady         Gerrard

Silva             Shelvey              Enrique

                     Carroll

Which Silva are you taking about? Toni Silva?

I'd give Joe Cole a chance to prove himself  - he is having a great season

anyone?

"Not good enough for Juventus" is a load of rubbish.



Which Silva are you taking about? Toni Silva?

Toni Brito Silva.
That's the one.
Would like to see one of our reserve players feature, a bit like Flanagan and Robinson at the back of last year.
They filled in when needed in problem positions for us and right now I'd give Coady and Silva some opportunities in what I think are problem positions
for us right now.

Adam needs to be dropped = far too inconsistent.

So rather than pick a young promising forward, you'd rather spend money on somebody not good enough for Juventus - makes sense eh? Get a grip lad. And you'd rather pick Eccleston with three reserve goals over Morgan who has four reserve goals - makes sense eh? Get a grip lad. Now I'd expect a lad with first team experience, both here and in the lower leagues, to be doing a whole lot better than a lad who is in his first year with the reserves - wouldn't you?

Eccleston will never make it here because he's not good enough. That's why he's been loaned out to League 1 sides for three consecutive seasons. Whereas the quality youngsters get loaned out then make their mark on the first team - Kelly at Huddersfield, Spearing at Leicester. Hopefully Shelvey at Blackpool.

No, I'd pick up an excellent squad option who is currently out of favour at Juventus because the coach plays a different type of football to the one Krasic offers but I've since been informed that this isn't a thread to get into the nitty gritty of transfers and considering "you don't watch Serie A" (your words, not mine), we'll just leave it at that.  If Adam Morgan can rise above the scrap to oust the likes of Bijev, Eccleston, Pacheco, Ngoo and Amoo from ahead of him in the pecking order, he'll be doing well for himself and I wish him all the best.

Again, goals scored means very little to me because I'm a strong believer in the collective sum of the team will always be greater than the collective talent of all the individuals (it's not like there's a massive difference in the amount of goals scored, one player doesn't have say 15 goals and the other 2, 3 goals vs 4 goals is pretty much no different, also Eccleston scored 1 or 2 while on loan - I know for a fact definitely 1 but possibly even 2).  Eccleston is far more confident, trickier, pacier and links up better.  Morgan a better finisher and uses his body slightly better.  Both have their merits, Eccleston gets the nod ahead of Morgan for me.  I don't think either will make it here but currently, Eccleston is closer to the first squad than Morgan - just how I see it based on watching reserve performances.

I'd go for two players who are available relatively young and cheap.

Krasic and Granero.

Say bye bye to Maxi and Kuyt.

Overall I think that would compliment our current lot.

Granero would offer some much needed stability and creativity in midfield.

Krasic would offer us some balance from the right hand side.

1) Drop Carroll, Adam and Downing. And I mean from the squad, not the first team. Give them a kick up the arse. If things still aren't going well, transfer list them.

2) Promote a few youngsters. Even if it's not starting games regularly, get the likes of Silva, Morgan and Sterling in and around the first team. They might not be doing brilliantly in the reserves/youth team but a role in a League Cup Semi Final might drive them on to work harder in the reserves and push into the first team on a more regular basis.

3) Make sure the midfield is balanced. Steven Gerrard is the most creative midfielder in the team by a F***ing mile. Don't restrict him. Get Spearing, Coates or Agger alongside him so that he has a bit of freedom to push forward like he did against Newcastle to devastating effect.

4) Look at a couple of sensible additions in the last week of the transfer window. An extra midfielder, winger or striker (maybe even more than one) could be the difference for us this season.

5) Just ask for 100%. At the end of the day, we aren't going to sign a lot of players in the next week or so. So we have to make use of what we have. And these players, whilst they might not be the best, can all offer one thing. 100% effort. They can work and fight hard when they put that red shirt on and a lot of the time that makes up for lack of quality. Saturday was a very painful day to be a Red, not because we lost, but because a lot of the players didn't F***ing fight hard enough. If we lose, we lost but at least go down fighting. If we can cut out that type of performance (it wasn't much better against Stoke the previous week if I'm honest) then we'll start going places.

I've thought about this and I'm not so sure about five changes being needed but what the F**k I'll give it a go... based solely on Saturday's display and nothing else.


* Coady (1) or Coates (2) in the 'holding' role if Jay's unavailable with Gerrard & Shelvey (3) in front.

* Sterling (4) gets a run out on the right (if we are playing with wide players) - not Kuyt and not Henderson.

* Morgan (5) gets a regular place coming off the bench.

Like others have said, I'm not sure the "five changes" approach is the best way to go about getting the best out of the team. A lot of it what is needed revolves around coaching and managing the players as opposed to team selection per se. I think it's clear that we haven't seen anything like the best from certain players this season. The likes of Carroll, Downing and Henderson, all attacking players, barely have any goals or assists between them. Neither have they shown anywhere near enough bottle or fight to change that, or make a significant positive impact on the team's performances. Getting more out of these three would be a good place to start. There's a place here for simple good man-management because a lot of it I think is down to mentality. It's not a fundamental lack of ability that's preventing Henderson from getting stuck into tackles or taking more of a risk when he passes the ball and nor is it a question of ability when Carroll's competing in the air, or Downing in taking on full backs and getting in good crosses. They need coached or rollocked into performing to a higher standard. A spell on the bench might be a good idea for one or two of them. Introducing Shelvey ahead of Henderson, for instance, might not be a bad idea seeing as he's at least had some attacking impact when he's played. It's harder with a player like Carroll because the alternative is Kuyt, although one further alternative might be to stick Bellamy up top with Kuyt until Suarez returns.

In the absence of Lucas and given the unsuitability of our other mid's to the holding role, I think it would be a good idea to continue with Spearing as and when he's fit.We all saw against Bolton how easily they broke through our midfield and defense to be in on goal, and we'll struggle to keep outr good defensive record if that isn't rectified. Part of it is down to a basic lack of concentration but we can mitigate that by selecting the right midfield combo . Adam isn't a very competent defensive midfielder and never has been (he's another who needs a rapid kick up the backside), while Gerrard's game is much more about looking forward than it is holding his position and anticipating threats in front of the back four. Spearing's game, on the other hand, has that very focus and he's a tidy passer as well so I'd stick with him.

Obviously the scope for the greatest impact would be a new signing or two in the attacking department, but that's for another thread.

We have two pivotal games coming up starting from Wednesday,i don't expect there to be wholesale changes but i do expect whoever is chosen to play to give absolutely everything they have for Kenny,the club and we fans, same as Saturday against Manure, if after we are still in both comps then fine we move on, but if we are dumped out of both then i would start planning for next season, and make the necessary changes,ok 5 changes at once may be too much to handle,but we Suarez coming back fairly soon,and i would build a side to accomodate him,

so i would bring in Coady, Sterling, and Morgan to start with, to replace Adam, Kuyt and Carroll, ease them in gently is the key, too much to soon can F**k them up, 20 mins here and there will allow easier transition,

Spearing if fit has to do the Lucas role, with Gerrard alongside, i'd have Shelvey instead of Hendo, he offers alot more imo,ie; he will tackle, in my opening post i mentioned Maxi,but if i'm honest i was a bit hasty, although he has to step up big for me, maybe Luis's abscence has had a real effect on him,

we have to do something because what Kenny and Clarkey have been trying to achieve was just sh*t on against Bolton, we were not playing particularly well anyway but Saturday's display was totally unacceptable,

i agree with Kenny in that if thats the players attitude,any player,then they can F**k right off,

the next few weeks will shape our season, i'd like to think a trip to Anfield South at least once is on the cards, and still in with a chance of CL football next season, if not, it's back to the drawing board for me, plan for next season and finish as high as possible.

And our problem is scoring goals, Morgan is the most natural finisher the club has at any level. He fits the bill as to what we need.

That is an over simplification of the issue. Its like saying someone doesnt get laid because he are lousy in the sack. If you cant get a woman in bed, its irrelevant weather you are good or bad at sex per se. We stink in play construction (thats courting), we really do. Most of the "chances" we seem to be wasting this year are not clear cut ones, and im not saying there are no problems in the finishing.

That is an over simplification of the issue. Its like saying someone doesnt get laid because he are lousy in the sack. If you cant get a woman in bed, its irrelevant weather you are good or bad at sex per se. We stink in play construction (thats courting), we really do. Most of the "chances" we seem to be wasting this year are not clear cut ones, and im not saying there are no problems in the finishing.

Maybe it got lost in translation 

That is an over simplification of the issue. Its like saying someone doesnt get laid because he are lousy in the sack. If you cant get a woman in bed, its irrelevant weather you are good or bad at sex per se. We stink in play construction (thats courting), we really do. Most of the "chances" we seem to be wasting this year are not clear cut ones, and im not saying there are no problems in the finishing.

No our problem is scoring, not creating.

For example - clear cut chances in games we've lost/drawn

Sunderland home - missed penalty
Stoke away - Adam and Henderson missing sitters within seconds of each other, Suarez missing a sitter at the death of the game.
Spurs away - got twatted.
United home - Henderson header over the bar from about 6 yards out at the end of the game.
Norwch home - Ruddy man of the match because we weren't clinical enough.
Swansea home - Worm man of the match because we weren't clinical enough.
Man City home - Hart man of the match because we weren't clinical enough.
Fulham away - countless chances going amiss.
Wigan away - missed penalty.
Blackburn home - Carroll header at the very end.
Man City away - Downing missing a sitter.
Stoke home - possibly the worst performance at Anfield all season.
Bolton away - didn't miss any clear chances, didn't create any.

Ultimately, in pretty much every game we've lost or drawn this season we've had more than enough chances to win the game. Our problem has been scoring, not creating.

No our problem is scoring, not creating.

For example - clear cut chances in games we've lost/drawn

Sunderland home - missed penalty
Stoke away - Adam and Henderson missing sitters within seconds of each other, Suarez missing a sitter at the death of the game.
Spurs away - got twatted.
United home - Henderson header over the bar from about 6 yards out at the end of the game.
Norwch home - Ruddy man of the match because we weren't clinical enough.
Swansea home - Worm man of the match because we weren't clinical enough.
Man City home - Hart man of the match because we weren't clinical enough.
Fulham away - countless chances going amiss.
Wigan away - missed penalty.
Blackburn home - Carroll header at the very end.
Man City away - Downing missing a sitter.
Stoke home - possibly the worst performance at Anfield all season.
Bolton away - didn't miss any clear chances, didn't create any.

Ultimately, in pretty much every game we've lost or drawn this season we've had more than enough chances to win the game. Our problem has been scoring, not creating.

Not enough clear chances. Top flight teams get almost double the chances (clear chances, not "he dribbled past 7 players and then missed a one on one vs the keeper)we do. No creation on midfield whatsoever puts extra pressure on the strikers, more specifically on Suarez who has to create 90% of what he shoots. If our striker needs to get down to the midfield to get the ball we are in deep sh*t.

Lets agree to disagree

Not enough clear chances. Top flight teams get almost double the chances (clear chances, not "he dribbled past 7 players and then missed a one on one vs the keeper)we do. No creation on midfield whatsoever puts extra pressure on the strikers, more specifically on Suarez who has to create 90% of what he shoots. If our striker needs to get down to the midfield to get the ball we are in deep sh*t.

Lets agree to disagree

I agree with your post, we don't create clear chances. Our wingers are inefficient and our there won't be central midfielders in the box since Downing cannot dribble and cross in the box like he is supposed to do. Maxi or Bellamy however tend to cut inside. We still need wingers; as for strikers maybe Kenny wants the team to find form before signing. However everybody sees that Downing is not good enough, that or wingers are not good enough.

I'd go for two players who are available relatively young and cheap.

Krasic and Granero.

Say bye bye to Maxi and Kuyt.

Overall I think that would compliment our current lot.

Granero would offer some much needed stability and creativity in midfield.

Krasic would offer us some balance from the right hand side.

Krasic and Granero would be good for the price(s) being reported by the media. I really hope Kenny is preparing something, otherwise we can only dream of challenging for the title in 2-3 years. If we don't finish with 1/2 cups or top 4, our club will sink. We need to find form rapidly; how? maybe by playing well and winning or adding another Suarez to our team like last January.

Ultimately, in pretty much every game we've lost or drawn this season we've had more than enough chances to win the game. Our problem has been scoring, not creating.

I totally agree with you Billy, also there is the countless times we've hit the woodwork that had it not just been for a bit more luck we'd have won games that we've drawn.

Joe Cole to be given a chance in Pre-Season and beginning of next season?

Slowly getting back to his best.

Joe Cole to be given a chance in Pre-Season and beginning of next season?

Slowly getting back to his best.

Joe "Alberto" Cole.. Every pre season?

Part of me would love to see Joe back and firing and think if he was fit he could do a great job behind the striker.

Can't see it though, think he has burnt his bridges here.

Ha ha.
Does sound like some Chef advise alright.
So long as he doesn't start singing this:
Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls Song

That is an over simplification of the issue. Its like saying someone doesnt get laid because he are lousy in the sack. If you cant get a woman in bed, its irrelevant weather you are good or bad at sex per se. We stink in play construction (thats courting), we really do. Most of the "chances" we seem to be wasting this year are not clear cut ones, and im not saying there are no problems in the finishing.

At least that got my mind off the chances we keep missing...

I remember in the mid 90s when we were great at construction... We would construct the F**k out teams... But at the moments that counted we fell a bit limp..

Reminds me of my 90s heyday of constructing...
Nowadays though I can't be fu**ed to construct and often don't give a sh*t if I'm good or bad ( per se)










What were we talking about?

Spurs away - got twatted.