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      corballyred
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      Re: Jen Chang appointed New Communications Director
      Reply #276: Oct 30, 2012 06:13:16 pm
      Shocking he should be instantly dismissed.

      sh*te like this is why we need a good CEO.

      F***ing running about after people on twitter pathetic stuff and I've no doubt Ayres was aware of it as well.

      Is there anyone with half a brain running the club.
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      Reply #277: Oct 30, 2012 07:14:45 pm
      Oh My God

      #blamefsg
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      Re: Jen Chang appointed New Communications Director
      Reply #278: Oct 30, 2012 07:41:01 pm
      WUMs and Trolls.

      The world we live in.

      Pretty much it. Chang is a muppet for pursuing a muppet Twitter account and Cummins (snicker!) is a muppet for being a muppet on Twitter. No offense intended to the legacy of Jim Henson.
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      Re: Jen Chang appointed New Communications Director
      Reply #279: Oct 30, 2012 08:37:31 pm
      Who employed him George.
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      Reply #280: Oct 30, 2012 08:45:12 pm

      So it's FSG fault that he went and met this guy ?!?

      Should they lock up their employees at night now and attach trackers to them

      There is only one person at fault for this - Chang - no one else , it's all on him.

      #blamefsg
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      Re: Jen Chang appointed New Communications Director
      Reply #281: Oct 30, 2012 09:17:19 pm
      Who employed Chang. It is also alleged Ayres was aware of the meeting.

      Now George do you see why I want a top class CEO.

      Then maybe we won't have club employees chasing around people on twitter.
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      Reply #282: Oct 30, 2012 09:23:19 pm
      Alleged by who exactly CR ?

      Has it been proven ?

      Have you deemed Ayre guilty

      We work under a MD not a CEO - much of the sameness.
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      Reply #283: Oct 30, 2012 09:24:41 pm
      Might be just me but I want some balls at the club, we have had he piss taken out of us to many times by lower teams who have had strong owners/employees, Christ give me he main men in Sicily as communications directors and I will take it.
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      Re: Jen Chang appointed New Communications Director
      Reply #284: Oct 30, 2012 11:39:55 pm
      That's the end result when employess spent too much time on twitter and facebook instead of getting on with more important issues. The company I'm with now is very strict on employees conduct and anyone found twitting or facebooking during office hours will be given the first and final warning and second time caught will have to leave. The guy was born, bred and still working in  manchester, a Liverpool supporter? What a nonsense. 
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      Re: Jen Chang appointed New Communications Director
      Reply #285: Oct 30, 2012 11:50:48 pm
      Chang should not have gone down to that level but to ask the legal dept to give an official letter to this cummins fellow 48-hours to show proof of what he has written, failure which we will start legal proceedings, otherwise, a written apology to LFC on the matter. I'm terribly dissapointed with Chang  and Ayre. Can I now start another sean cummins saga and will I get another apology letter from Ayre? Perhaps Chang has good  intentions to get to the bottom of who this mole is, but I'm sure there are other ways to do it.
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      Reply #286: Oct 30, 2012 11:56:00 pm
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      Reply #287: Oct 31, 2012 11:57:17 am
      From Tony Barrett (Times)

      One evening in the summer of 2005, Robert Kraft retired to his bed having made a monumental decision – he was going to buy Liverpool Football Club. Talks with David Moores, the then Liverpool chairman, had gone better than he had expected and when the owner of the New England Patriots brought an end to what appeared to be a significant day his final thoughts were dominated by Anfield and the Premier League.

      The following morning, though, Kraft awoke with a start. Something felt wrong. Here he was in Brookline, Massachusetts, planning to take control of a 'sports franchise' which was based more than 3,000 miles away. The business magnate picked up the phone and immediately called Moores. He could not conclude the deal, he said. As far as Kraft was concerned, the limitations of being an absentee owner were such a concern that he feared being unable to do justice to both Liverpool and himself if he proceeded.

      Fast forward to the present day and Liverpool are conspiring to make that decision seem particularly wise. Under American ownership – this time in the guise of Fenway Sports Group – the Merseyside club seem only to list from one crisis to another, with some being more serious than others, as their Stateside proprietors seem unable or unwilling to find a way of bridging the geographical divide.

      Over the last week, a new farce has surrounded them, one which has caused deep and unnecessary embarrassment to a club which used to pride itself on doing things the right way; in their terms “the Liverpool Way”. It is a shambles which, in fairness, would not have been possible in a previous era but it was also one which was wholly avoidable in the present one.

      Everyone knows about it by now as it has been played out in both mainstream and social media. But for anyone who has avoided the online madhouse that is Twitter or steered clear of newspapers for a few days then the basics are that Jen Chang, Liverpool’s communications director, has been accused of threatening a supporter by the name of Sean Cummins who had been operating a spoof Twitter account under the pseudonym of Duncan Jenkins.

      Without going into detail, Chang denies the allegations and unless hard evidence is produced by Cummins it is hard to imagine how the shocking claims made against the FSG appointment will be upheld. But what is probably beyond dispute is that by tracking down and trying to stop the activities of a fan who was doing little more than tweet titbits of team and transfer news, Chang was guilty of the kind of naivety which has characterised Liverpool on far too many occasions since FSG took over the club two years ago.

      The street smart route – one which would have been followed in the days when the late Kevin Dooley and more recently Richard Green provided legal counsel – would have been to look into 'Jenkins's' tweets and then to accept that there are some things that go beyond the reach even of Liverpool Football Club. Basically, there are some fights that are worth fighting and some that are best avoided and a spoof Twitter account giving out information that was freely available in other areas of cyberspace, not to mention in the free world, definitely fell into the latter category.

      The country’s biggest football clubs have decisions of this type to make on an increasingly regular basis. The difference between the Liverpool of today and the one which Kraft considered buying is that it seems to make the wrong moves more often than the right ones.

      A young manager making his first tentative steps in a difficult job? Make him the subject of a fly-on-the-wall TV documentary. A top player accused of racially abusing a fellow professional? Don’t give him a QC. A desperate need to sign a forward? Allow deadline day to pass as confusion reigns.

      It is one bad move after another and each failing has, to a greater or lesser extent, undermined the stature and reputation of a club which is in danger of becoming a bigger parody than the Twitter account which drove it to distraction. That all of these situations have occurred since FSG took ownership suggests that such cock-ups are not a coincidence and that there is a deep fault line running through the club.

      Arguably the most plausible solution is inexperience. John W Henry, Liverpool’s principal owner, confessed upon purchase that he had much to learn about his new asset and also football in general. He has strived to overcome this by studying football with a zeal bordering on obsession and resorted to a reliance on statistics in an attempt to make up for his lack of natural feel for the game, but he has still managed to make a series of decisions which he has later regretted and which have helped usher Liverpool into their current malaise.

      Such inexperience would perhaps not be the debilitating problem that it is if it wasn’t for the fact that it is replicated throughout the club. Ian Ayre is Liverpool’s longest serving director but has only been at Anfield since 2007. Natalie Wignall, their legal counsel, dates back only to the time when Christian Purslow was in situ. Chang became director of communications last summer. Changes to their medical staff were made even more recently than that. In their pomp, Liverpool’s board of directors hardly changed from one decade to the next, now it is populated by newcomers, most of whom reside in the USA.

      It is against this backdrop that Brendan Rodgers, himself relatively inexperienced at the highest level, must attempt to revive Liverpool’s flagging fortunes. At 39 years old, he is Liverpool’s youngest manager since Kenny Dalglish stepped into Joe Fagan’s shoes at the age of just 34 in 1985. Unlike Dalglish, though, Rodgers is not blessed with a time-served board. If he wants to speak to his chairman he has to either call or email Tom Werner in Los Angeles, Dalglish merely had to knock on the door of John Smith’s office. He is also unable to call on the wise counsel of a Peter Robinson never mind a Bob Paisley.

      Liverpool do not boast such figures anymore, they are a brand new club in almost every conceivable way. The radical changes that have been made at Anfield over the past two years may eventually pay off. Mistakes that are being made now may come to be looked back on as important lessons learned in the fullness of time. But the worrying thing from Liverpool’s point of view is that so many of their most recent problems have been self-inflicted and unnecessary. Rodgers needed a forward, he didn’t get one; he could have done without a fly-on-the-wall documentary holding him up to
      scrutiny, but he got one; Luis Suarez needed a QC, he didn’t get one; Chang didn’t need to pursue a tweeter but he did anyway.

      How FSG puts such failings right isn’t clear. They could sack some more employees and replace them with new appointments but that option has already been pursued with vigour and without any indications up to this point that it is ready to pay off. They could appoint a so-called football man with experience and street smarts but they appeared to throw the baby out with the bath water on that front when Dalglish’s ties with the club were severed last summer. They could appoint a respected former player or even an outsider to act as a buffer between Rodgers and the board, only the manager has already made it clear that he would not approve of the creation of such a position.

      There are no easy answers to Liverpool’s problems and the added complications caused by geographical distance, time difference and physical detachment are making it even more difficult for FSG to come up with the necessary solutions. It was such a scenario that helped prompt Robert Kraft’s change of heart and FSG’s ongoing struggles at Anfield are making its fellow American’s U-turn look like the kind of smart move that their club currently seems incapable of making.
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      Re: Jen Chang appointed New Communications Director
      Reply #288: Oct 31, 2012 12:00:11 pm
      Chang is a tw*t and is very lucky to keep his job and Jenkins is a publicity seeking tw*t who deserves a good slap.
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      Reply #289: Oct 31, 2012 12:50:32 pm

      :lmao:

      On a serious note, what a bellend Chang is.  Dreadful behaviour by our PR man.
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      Reply #290: Oct 31, 2012 01:11:54 pm
      In all seriousness....if I did something like that at my job I'd be fired. Not sure why Chang is so important that he hasn't been let go. Surely there are other PR people out there the club could turn to?
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      Reply #291: Oct 31, 2012 01:14:13 pm
      Fired? maybe he was taking orders from Boston to sniff out the mole?.
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      Reply #292: Oct 31, 2012 01:37:04 pm
      Fired? maybe he was taking orders from Boston to sniff out the mole?.
      I don't care if he was taking orders from the Queen of England. As a supposedly intelligent human, he should have known better than to engage in the kind of behavior he engaged in.
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      Reply #293: Nov 01, 2012 02:22:00 pm
      I don't care if he was taking orders from the Queen of England. As a supposedly intelligent human, he should have known better than to engage in the kind of behavior he engaged in.


      Exactly what kind of behavior did he engage in ?.

      All I've seen is dm's on twitter and email's where Chang has acted respectfully.

      Anything outside of that is he said/she said, with no proof at all regarding what Chang is alleged to have said.

      Do we really live in a society where we take the word of a known attention seeker as god dammit ?

      I despair at times, I honestly really do.
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      Reply #294: Nov 01, 2012 02:35:54 pm

      Exactly what kind of behavior did he engage in ?.

      All I've seen is dm's on twitter and email's where Chang has acted respectfully.

      Anything outside of that is he said/she said, with no proof at all regarding what Chang is alleged to have said.

      Do we really live in a society where we take the word of a known attention seeker as god dammit ?

      I despair at times, I honestly really do.

      You are right, the club completed their investigation and made a formal apology based on heresay.
      Thanks for playing.
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      Reply #295: Nov 01, 2012 03:04:26 pm
      Can I be the first to say that I couldn't give a F**k.

      Storm in a F***ing teacup from a publicity seeking tw*t out to make a name for himself, and an employee who showed incredible naivety.

      FLRed, maybe just maybe the club decided it was best to close the whole stupid chapter, and issued the apology so it wouldn't drag on and give the fuckwit the satisfaction of extra publicity.
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      Reply #296: Nov 01, 2012 03:24:07 pm
      Can I be the first to say that I couldn't give a f**k.

      Storm in a f**king teacup from a publicity seeking tw*t out to make a name for himself, and an employee who showed incredible naivety.

      FLRed, maybe just maybe the club decided it was best to close the whole stupid chapter, and issued the apology so it wouldn't drag on and give the fuckwit the satisfaction of extra publicity.

      Maybe so. All I'm saying is that Chang obviously engaged in some sort of behavior when really all he had to do was ignore the whole thing. He brought negativity to the club regardless of whether we care about it or not. He's supposed to be head of PR and he failed miserably at it. For that alone they should find someone better suited.

      OR

      If we are going to try and smoke out creeps like the aformentioned "Duncan" then we do it the right way with some aluminum bats from guys in black leather blazers.  ;)
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      Reply #297: Nov 01, 2012 03:42:21 pm

      I bet you'd like that wouldn't you Fenway Lover Red? :laugh:
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      Reply #298: Nov 01, 2012 03:45:14 pm
      I bet you'd like that wouldn't you Fenway Lover Red? :laugh:
      Call me Gay all you want, but call me anything related to Fenway and those are fighting words son.

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