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      srslfc
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #18193: Oct 22, 2014 12:47:46 am
      If he fails ultimately then I'll look for reasons why, but it won't be over pictures on his wall, his dentistry or what motor he drives to the coop in

      Agree 100% here Jon.
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      Reply #18194: Oct 22, 2014 12:56:20 am
      I think that everyone overlooks the main problem at our Club at the moment. While everyone wants to discuss whether it's Brendan's fault or the players there is one point that nobody seems to wants to discuss.

      That point in question, Colin f**king Pascoe! He is basically Brendan's bi*ch and only has a job here because his lad is courting Brenadan's daughter and he wants to keep him close. Jobs for the f**king boys so to speak.

      Week after week i see the same defensive shambles and nothing changes, nothing improves. I can't remember which game i was watching the other week but this incident of which i speak happened during a substitution. I can't remember which player came off, i think it was Balotelli and Lambert was coming on. Pascoe picked up this A4 folder file and started flicking through it, trying to find a formation diagram to relay an instruction to Lambert. By the time the useless c**t had found the diagram after flicking through it like a complete fuckwit, Lambert had already gone onto the pitch. I wanted to laugh but i was so angry at how unprofessional it looked i wanted to stick my fist through the telly and smash his jaw in.

      Time after time i have raised the question on this forum, asking what it is that he actually does, yet nobody can seem to answer it. Anybody? I would really like to f**king know.

      Last Season our defence was an absolute f**king shambles but the contribution of Sturridge and Suarez towards our goal output sort of masked those inadequacies. When we were scoring for fun it didn't seem such an issue to some, but it absolutely was a major issue. We conceded 50 goals in the League last Season, more than City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton, United, Southampton and Crystal Palace, yet we finished second. Quite astonishing really, it kind of puts the contribution of Sturridge and Suarez into perspective.

      It seems that people harp on about the Gerrard slip and the Palace capitulation as being the turning points of our Season but they weren't. It was a catalogue of defensive errors, week after week after week that cost us the League. What have we done as a Club to address this problem?, absolutely f**k all.

      I look at Flanagan, Manquillo, Lovren, Skrtel, Sakho, Moreno, Enrique etc. and i see top quality defenders, so where is the problem? There is no f**ker there to organise them properly. They are not being drilled correctly and that lack of leadership in training is showing on the pitch.

      This Season, with goals drying up, the same recurring mistakes from last Season are having a greater impact. The magnitude has increased dramatically due to our inability to offset these mistakes by alleviating the pressure at the business end of the pitch.

      Brendan has got to bite the bullet on this one and accept he needs extra help with the defence. If he wants to keep an eye on Pascoe then fine, keep him on as something else but as an assistant in that dugout, he is completely and utterly out of his depth. I want to see an assistant barking orders, not flicking through a folder looking for drawings of Subbuteo players.

      We cannot go on like this, i've gone for a Liverpool win tonight but if we play like we did at QPR then i fear for us, i really do. I cannot believe we have regressed this far in a few months. I never ever envisaged this, i thought we'd kick on from last Season.

      Unless things change in the staffing department then i fear for our hopes of European qualification.

      Come on Redmen. Snap out of it.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #18195: Oct 22, 2014 01:01:04 am
      I think that everyone overlooks the main problem at our Club at the moment. While everyone wants to discuss whether it's Brendan's fault or the players there is one point that nobody seems to wants to discuss.

      That point in question, Colin F***ing Pascoe!

      You seriously think Colin Pascoe is 'the main problem at our club' right now Hardcore?

      He is basically Brendan's bi*ch and only has a job here because his lad is courting Brenadan's daughter and he wants to keep him close. Jobs for the f**king boys so to speak.

      Not a chance that is the only reason he has a job at LFC.
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      Reply #18196: Oct 22, 2014 01:08:05 am
      You seriously think Colin Pascoe is 'the main problem at our club' right now Hardcore?

      Not a chance that is the only reason he has a job at LFC.


      It's a fair point that Hardcore has raised and it's not the only time it's been asked. What does he do (Pascoe)?

      I honestly do believe he is a yes man and can even believe he's got his job with Brendan because of his close ties to his family that has never sat too well with me. I'd always want someone who has the ability to disagree with Brendan, not always be right but at least occasionally bring something to the party, I don't believe Pascoe does that.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #18197: Oct 22, 2014 01:14:51 am
      You seriously think Colin Pascoe is 'the main problem at our club' right now Hardcore?

      Not a chance that is the only reason he has a job at LFC.


      I hope you didn't misinterpret that comment srslfc. The problem is that Pascoe shouldn't be assisting Brendan, a good defensive coach is what Brendan needs beside him.

      As for your second comment, i think you'd be surprised. A lot of my mates are Swansea supporters and they could tell you a story or two about that.
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      Reply #18198: Oct 22, 2014 01:20:25 am
      I hope you didn't misinterpret that comment srslfc. The problem is that Pascoe shouldn't be assisting Brendan, a good defensive coach is what Brendan needs beside him.

      Never going to happen mate.

      Brendan is an attack minded coach and I'd imagine likes like minded people working with him and will continue to work on trying to win games on the front foot instead of focussing on the defense.

      As for your second comment, i think you'd be surprised. A lot of my mates are Swansea supporters and they could tell you a story or two about that.

      Fair enough and you maybe know more than me about this but I think Brendan is no mug either and I always believe in a manager having people around him who he feels comfortable working with and Brendan is no different and if Colin is that guy then so be it.

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      Reply #18199: Oct 22, 2014 01:24:21 am

      Not a chance that is the only reason he has a job at LFC.


      Highly doubt it. Looks like, from a 5 minute dig around on twatter that the pair aren't together anymore.
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      Reply #18200: Oct 22, 2014 01:28:35 am
      Highly doubt it. Looks like, from a 5 minute dig around on twatter that the pair aren't together anymore.

      They were when he brought him.
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      Reply #18201: Oct 22, 2014 01:36:32 am

      Seen that. It was said during the "Being Liverpool" thing. I don't think they're together anymore but I do agree with the apparent lack of knowledge on Pascoes part. I'd love to see Steve Clarke back in.
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      Reply #18202: Oct 22, 2014 01:40:29 am
      Never going to happen mate.

      Brendan is an attack minded coach and I'd imagine likes like minded people working with him and will continue to work on trying to win games on the front foot instead of focussing on the defense.

      Fair enough and you maybe know more than me about this but I think Brendan is no mug either and I always believe in a manager having people around him who he feels comfortable working with and Brendan is no different and if Colin is that guy then so be it.



      Do you feel comfortable making those comments srslfc?

      Are you telling me that Colin Pascoe is an attack minded coach?

      You are quite happy that the defence remain a shambles as long as he concentrates on attack?

      Have we now become a carbon copy of Keegan's Newcastle?

      I'm having trouble understanding your last comment as well mate, not having a go or anything, but do you honestly believe in a manager surrounding himself with people he feels comfortable with?

      Brendan must surround himself with the best available staff he can find, and let me tell you, there are a damn sight more better football men around than Colin Pascoe. The trouble with managers that surround themselves with slippers is that they get too comfortable with them and can get lost in themselves because nobody stands up to them.

      You have to have strong characters around you to keep you on your toes. Men who are not afraid to upset the cosy atmosphere if they feel he is doing something wrong or neglecting certain aspects of his job.

      Look how well Benitez and Ayesteran worked together, Ayesteran was always questioning Benitez and challenging him and that was good for the team, good for the Club. You only have to look at what happened when Ayesteran left to see how important strong men are.
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      Reply #18203: Oct 22, 2014 01:42:57 am
      Seen that. It was said during the "Being Liverpool" thing. I don't think they're together anymore but I do agree with the apparent lack of knowledge on Pascoes part. I'd love to see Steve Clarke back in.

      I'm not having a go mate. I just don't see the point of Pascoe being here. He is out of his depth at our Club, in all honesty he was out of his depth at Swansea too.

      Didn't know it was mentioned on the "Being Liverpool" show. Still got it on my planner and cannot bring myself to watch it!
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      Reply #18204: Oct 22, 2014 01:48:31 am
      I'm not having a go mate. I just don't see the point of Pascoe being here. He is out of his depth at our Club, in all honesty he was out of his depth at Swansea too.

      Didn't know it was mentioned on the "Being Liverpool" show. Still got it on my planner and cannot bring myself to watch it!

      I know mate, but most would be in agreement with you about Pascoe anyways though. :)
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      Reply #18205: Oct 22, 2014 01:54:27 am
      If Brendan is dumb enough to be employing someone merely because of family ties then we are in trouble.
      Anyone that has an ounce of self awareness and ambition would not jeapordize their future by hitching themselves to some schlub just because his son is trying to hump your daughter.

      Not saying it's not true mind you, just that if it is true then we are the ones getting humped.
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      Reply #18206: Oct 22, 2014 03:09:07 am
      If Brendan is dumb enough to be employing someone merely because of family ties then we are in trouble.
      Anyone that has an ounce of self awareness and ambition would not jeapordize their future by hitching themselves to some schlub just because his son is trying to hump your daughter.

      Not saying it's not true mind you, just that if it is true then we are the ones getting humped.

      Just out of interest FLRed, do you think Pascoe is an adequate assistant to Brendan Rodgers? Especially considering the troubles we are having at the back at the moment?

      At least when Ayesteran, Lee and Clarke were here you could actually see they were being proactive during games.

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      Reply #18207: Oct 22, 2014 03:26:03 am
      Don't know squat about Pascoe or his coaching abillities if any?

      We do need some major instruction at the back whether it be a new specialised defensive coach or a new assistant all together.
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      Reply #18208: Oct 22, 2014 03:32:01 am
      Just out of interest FLRed, do you think Pascoe is an adequate assistant to Brendan Rodgers? Especially considering the troubles we are having at the back at the moment?

      At least when Ayesteran, Lee and Clarke were here you could actually see they were being proactive during games.


      I surely am not qualified to speak to what Pascoe is doing behind the scenes, I only see him consulting with Brendan during the matches. I think it would be hard for me to pass judgement on him without knowing exactly what role he is or isn't playing in the defensive side of the game plan. What I do know is that our defense is a problem and needs sorting. Whether it's Pascoe or Brendan that's the problem (or the players?) I hope someone has the wherewithal to get the problems rectified.
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      Reply #18209: Oct 22, 2014 05:57:08 am
      Whenever that Pascoe dude picks up his bunch of files during a game, I feel he is writing his autobiography. He has to show he is doing something active during the match. :roll:
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      Reply #18210: Oct 22, 2014 07:28:31 am
      . We say we lost the league last year due to Hendersons red or Stevies slip.

      No one who has any knowledge of the game thinks this
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      Reply #18211: Oct 22, 2014 08:07:57 am
      Does anyone know for sure that Pascoe is the defence coach?

      As far as I'm aware we have one head coach.
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      Reply #18212: Oct 22, 2014 08:14:53 am
      Does anyone know for sure that Pascoe is the defence coach?

      As far as I'm aware we have one head coach.

      He's not, he's assistant manager

      Mike marsh is first team coach

      Achterberg is keeper coach

      That's about it as far as I know apart from fitness people
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      Reply #18213: Oct 22, 2014 08:17:42 am
      Ain't Pascoe unbeaten as LFC manager whilst temporary in charge? :D
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      Reply #18214: Oct 22, 2014 08:58:24 am
      He can string together a few sentences.  that's about it.

      So he speaks Spanish no?

      Ojete pedante.  :P
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      Reply #18215: Oct 22, 2014 12:52:32 pm
      It's a fair point that Hardcore has raised and it's not the only time it's been asked. What does he do (Pascoe)?

      I honestly do believe he is a yes man and can even believe he's got his job with Brendan because of his close ties to his family that has never sat too well with me. I'd always want someone who has the ability to disagree with Brendan, not always be right but at least occasionally bring something to the party, I don't believe Pascoe does that.

      Last year I commented how Brendan had his corporate pals and minions all lined up as allies .

      Clarke is needed but BR would feel undermined.
      Remember who was rejected as Director of Football by Brendan?

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