General LFC Transfer rumours/gossip thread

the funny thing is, we aren't even going to spend kitty money on Mane. he will be funded by selling players Klopp doesn't want - Joe Allen and Christian Benteke are nothing to Klopp but over 30 million pounds in value to other clubs. that literally covers Mane - we might bring in a good first team quality winger, something we don't have at the club right now, without spending a cent of our kitty.

Karius will be covered by the sale of Mignolet - Matip is covered by not paying Toure - we are doing excellent business and improving the squad without spending a cent. so any fear or paranoia in "buying another Southampton player" or "overpaying for someone again" is complete nonsense without thought behind it, only fear coming from reading too many daily mail articles.

**sighs**

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/745009562483367936

 

The Mane rumours scare me.

Karius, Matip and Grujic have Klopp & Buvac written all over them. I can't help but feel that Mane is a committee signing. They need to give full control to Jürgen.

I could be completely wrong and maybe Klopp wants Mane here but I'm going with my gut.

Mane will be another 25-30m signing who just won't cut it here.

The Mane rumours scare me.

Karius, Matip and Grujic have Klopp & Buvac written all over them. I can't help but feel that Mane is a committee signing. They need to give full control to Jürgen.

I could be completely wrong and maybe Klopp wants Mane here but I'm going with my gut.

Mane will be another 25-30m signing who just won't cut it here.

You can relax mate, Klopp wanted Mane when he was playing in Austria before signing for Saints 

Liverpool FC have no interest in £10m Townsend move
 
 09:58, 21 Jun 2016
Updated  09:58, 21 Jun 2016 
By James Pearce
 
Reds not in race for Newcastle winger
 
Liverpool have no intention of joining the race to sign Newcastle United winger Andros Townsend.

The Reds have been linked with a move for the England international, who has a £10.5million buyout clause.

Reports suggested that Liverpool joined the list of Premier League clubs looking to take him away from St James' Park following their relegation to the Championship.

However, the ECHO understands that Townsend is not on Jürgen Klopp's list of summer targets.

Klopp is looking to bolster his attacking options before the start of the 2016/17 season but Townsend won't be among the new arrivals.

The Reds boss is keen on securing the services of Southampton's Sadio Mane, who would command a fee of around £30million.

Klopp has been a big admirer of the Senegal international since his time at Red Bull Salzburg. But any progress on that front is unlikely to happen until Saints appoint a new manager.

Manchester United and Tottenham are also keen on Mane, who came close to joining Liverpool before he signed for Southampton two years ago.

the Reds haven't given up hope of landing Bayern Munich's Mario Gotze, whose future will be sorted out after Euro 2016.

However, the Germany international has indicated he intends to stay with the Bundesliga outfit for the final year of his contract.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-no-interest-10m-11502369

Dangerous game denying interest in players. Now every time a player is linked and interest is not immediately denied, it will be taken as confirmation we are interested.

I'm going to add another couple of names to my "proven" list of players, the type of player which i feel we ought to be supplementing the signings of the Chilwells and the Grujic's with. Unlike many posters on here, I actually think that if Jürgen were allowed to, he might like to sign a couple of players off my list too.


Hamsik-The Slovakian fella. 28 years old, has played for Napoli for years both at home and in Europe, showed yesterday that he's a quality footballer.

Xacha-Has been excellent every game for Switzerland and is clearly very good. Arsenal have made a good purchase there.

Jao Moutinho-Another indisputeably quality footballer.   



Just to be clear I'm not saying we should sign these actual players, but these types of player.

the funny thing is, we aren't even going to spend kitty money on Mane. he will be funded by selling players Klopp doesn't want - Joe Allen and Christian Benteke are nothing to Klopp but over 30 million pounds in value to other clubs. that literally covers Mane - we might bring in a good first team quality winger, something we don't have at the club right now, without spending a cent of our kitty.

Karius will be covered by the sale of Mignolet - Matip is covered by not paying Toure - we are doing excellent business and improving the squad without spending a cent. so any fear or paranoia in "buying another Southampton player" or "overpaying for someone again" is complete nonsense without thought behind it, only fear coming from reading too many daily mail articles.

Ha! Migs wont be sold, what gives you that idea? But agree that we would kinda break even on spend and sales.

OUTs
Skrtel £5m, Markovic £8m, Mario £8m, Benteke £25m, Ibe £6m, Ilori £3m, Wisdom £3m, Alberto £2m, Bogdan+Tex £1m
Approx. £60m revenue thru sales

INs
Karius £4.7m, Grujic £5.1m, Matip (free), Zielinski £9.5m, Chilwell £5m, Moura/Mane £30m
Approx. £55m

I know Allen has impressed everyone in the Euros and proved he can be a good asset given a continuous run. Given that we don't look like adding anyone after Zielinski, I would prefer Allen over Hendo partnering Can as Allen has much more efficiency in terms of ball control, collecting a pass from defence and supply it to the attack. Agreed, we would rather have someone like Kovacic or Dahoud but for next season, I think Allen deserves a consistent chance in the playing 11.

Maybe a bit of difference is me saying give it a chance and see what happens vs. This is what's going to happen because this is what always happens.

Or perhaps AZ you are more optimistic than the yet still negative naysayers amongst us, I mean god forbid us trying to get better eh? 
Isn't the nature of the game to improve year on year or season by season so as once all the little pieces of the jigsaw are in place we might have something resembling a title winning side,  or am I expecting far too much and shouldn't expect us to challenge at all and stay very firmly in the land of mediocrity!

We might as well have stuck with the f***in 'Owl'!!

YNWA

Or perhaps AZ you are more optimistic than the yet still negative naysayers amongst us, I mean god forbid us trying to get better eh? 
Isn't the nature of the game to improve year on year or season by season so as once all the little pieces of the jigsaw are in place we might have something resembling a title winning side,  or am I expecting far too much and shouldn't expect us to challenge at all and stay very firmly in the land of mediocrity!

We might as well have stuck with the f***in 'Owl'!!

YNWA

Isn't there a difference between being skeptical on transfers and being optimistic about the season forthcoming? I fully expect a title challenge next season. I would assume that's defined as optimism no?

But I'm skeptical of the players that we are being linked with as of now. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive? 

I'm going to add another couple of names to my "proven" list of players, the type of player which i feel we ought to be supplementing the signings of the Chilwells and the Grujic's with. Unlike many posters on here, I actually think that if Jürgen were allowed to, he might like to sign a couple of players off my list too.


Hamsik-The Slovakian fella. 28 years old, has played for Napoli for years both at home and in Europe, showed yesterday that he's a quality footballer.

Xacha-Has been excellent every game for Switzerland and is clearly very good. Arsenal have made a good purchase there.

Jao Moutinho-Another indisputeably quality footballer.   



Just to be clear I'm not saying we should sign these actual players, but these types of player.

I agree with this and probably would take it a step further overall. Xhaka would have been my choice of marquee, first-team, major changing quality signing. It's unfortunate that he's signed with Arsenal already.

Moutinho is someone that I think would add a lot of quality to our team - or someone like him at least. He'd be an excellent #8 style option for us and he's basically a world-class version of Joe Allen. Recycles the ball extremely well, connects the backline to the attack, has superb vision, and knows how to properly weight passes and feed the attack while holding complete control over the pace of the game. We don't have anyone who currently does that exceedingly well, all we have are midfielders who are decent in all CM roles, but not a specialist in any.

Personally, I think we should be prioritizing both a true #6 and a true #8, while offloading some of our current options. Emre Can is a very versatile player and has the potential to be a very good one, but he is not a true #6 and anyone who thinks that he is or that he can be molded into one, I recommend that they watch Portugal play and focus on the likes of William Carvalho or Danilo Pereira, that is a true #6. Or Spain with Busquets, or Germany with Khedira, or Eric Dier on England. The #6 is someone who protects the backline at every single moment, has great positional sense, and strong discipline to hold his position, mark properly, and break down opposition attacks. They are an absolutely essential player in any team that has great aspirations and it's an easy tactical way to consistently improve your chances of victory.

I'm shocked that Klopp hasn't acknowledged or addressed this as a serious issue with our side given his Dortmund history of almost always playing two specialist players in those roles (Bender & Gundogan in 2012/13 for example) with a #10 in front of them.

Isn't there a difference between being skeptical on transfers and being optimistic about the season forthcoming? I fully expect a title challenge next season. I would assume that's defined as optimism no?

But I'm skeptical of the players that we are being linked with as of now. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive? 

I would not say I am jumping up and down over who we have bought or who we are linked with; that being said it's pretty much what i expected with this manager and if he is good with it than I am as I figure he knows far better than I who he wants/needs.

As for Billy's post I don't have a clue as to wtf he's speaking on as I expect us to continue to improve/challenge/ultimately win some silverware going forward; I've never said otherwise so don't quite know where the rant is coming from.

I would not say I am jumping up and down over who we have bought or who we are linked with; that being said it's pretty much what i expected with this manager and if he is good with it than I am as I figure he knows far better than I who he wants/needs.

As for Billy's post I don't have a clue as to wtf he's speKing on as I expect us to continue to improve/challenge/ultimately win some silverware going forward; I've never said otherwise so don't quite know where the rant is coming from.

Everything we've been told is that Klopp doesn't buy ready made stars...although the chase of Texiera (arguably) and Gotze (for sure) seem to point to the fact that maybe Klopp "hasn't" but it doesn't mean he "wouldn't"?

Like  you, I'm pretty calm about how he is going to buy even if I'm underwhelmed a bit.  That speaks more to my lack of knowledge than his shortcomings though and just because I'm underwhelmed now doesn't mean I won't be overwhelmed down the road. BUT.....the bottom line is you can't change someone feeling underwhelmed just by telling them "That's the way he's always done it".

Just like you can't chide people in England for desiring a nice warm sunny day even though it rains all the time (or so I'm told).

I would not say I am jumping up and down over who we have bought or who we are linked with; that being said it's pretty much what i expected with this manager and if he is good with it than I am as I figure he knows far better than I who he wants/needs.

As for Billy's post I don't have a clue as to wtf he's speaking on as I expect us to continue to improve/challenge/ultimately win some silverware going forward; I've never said otherwise so don't quite know where the rant is coming from.

Relax mate I think he's on your side  .

Relax mate I think he's on your side  .

We're all on the same side.

We all want to see Liverpool crushing all our domestic rivals into the dirt and winning European Cups.

We just sometimes disagree about how we get there.

Everything we've been told is that Klopp doesn't buy ready made stars...although the chase of Texiera (arguably) and Gotze (for sure) seem to point to the fact that maybe Klopp "hasn't" but it doesn't mean he "wouldn't"?

Like  you, I'm pretty calm about how he is going to buy even if I'm underwhelmed a bit.  That speaks more to my lack of knowledge than his shortcomings though and just because I'm underwhelmed now doesn't mean I won't be overwhelmed down the road. BUT.....the bottom line is you can't change someone feeling underwhelmed just by telling them "That's the way he's always done it".

Just like you can't chide people in England for desiring a nice warm sunny day even though it rains all the time (or so I'm told).

I would say FL...imho neither one of these players are stars,...they would absolutely walk into our first team bit I don't see.them as stars. Semantics I suppose but Gotze is living off his Dortmund/WC rep and can't get a sniff at Bayern and the other one is playing in China.

I think Gotze would be a statement signing for the Club but honestly I recall Carroll supposedly being a statement at the time (highest British xfer fee) and even Benteke being a statement of support for Brendan... neither one of those worked out very well. I don't discount the idea of him buying a big player but again IMO he has other areas that need addressing and then perhaps it will happen.

Isn't there a difference between being skeptical on transfers and being optimistic about the season forthcoming? I fully expect a title challenge next season. I would assume that's defined as optimism no?

But I'm skeptical of the players that we are being linked with as of now. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive? 

Being linked with and actually buying players is totally different to FL, we can speculate all we want, we can be as sceptical as much as we want to, however I can't see the point in being sceptical about speculation's if you get what I mean,

Until 'A' player is actually confirmed as a genuine target and we tender a bid any speculation is purely speculation, confused? 
Your scepticism of supposed targets is of your opinion, some say for instance Mane won't necessarily be a good signing others think otherwise, and could be construed as negativity,
Personally I think he would be a good signing as does our manager so considering our manager believes he'll be good for us wouldn't that be more inclined to be a positive also,
Still confused?
Well so am I  , need to get off the doobie's

YNWA

So we have bid €45 million for Hamsik apparently.

Most likely bullshit but few "sources" are running with it.

So we have bid €45 million for Hamsik apparently.

Most likely bullshit but few "sources" are running with it.

Knowing the way that De Laurentiis does business, I'm sure we will end up overpaying big time to get him or any Napoli player for that matter. The guy is f**king nuts.

Being linked with and actually buying players is totally different to FL, we can speculate all we want, we can be as sceptical as much as we want to, however I can't see the point in being sceptical about speculation's if you get what I mean,

Until 'A' player is actually confirmed as a genuine target and we tender a bid any speculation is purely speculation, confused? 
Your scepticism of supposed targets is of your opinion, some say for instance Mane won't necessarily be a good signing others think otherwise, and could be construed as negativity,
Personally I think he would be a good signing as does our manager so considering our manager believes he'll be good for us wouldn't that be more inclined to be a positive also,
Still confused?
Well so am I  , need to get off the doobie's

YNWA

I think your speculating that any speculation is just pure speculation is just speculating mate.

I think your speculating that any speculation is just pure speculation is just speculating mate.

Gary aren't you just speculating on what Billy is speculating on?

So we have bid €45 million for Hamsik apparently.

Most likely bullshit but few "sources" are running with it.

Yea, definitely an FSG signing.....45m for a 29 year old Italian???

Gary aren't you just speculating on what Billy is speculating on?

I think that's pure speculation mate.