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Yet who has been sit out some 310 plus with a Cruciate Ligament Rupture...?  Before that he was out with Collateral Ligament  for 63 days and two other knee injuries totaling some 179 days 

552 days and counting vs Fakir's 271 days of knee injuries the last 35 days of which was a Bruised Knee "We were happy with what we saw on scans for the Ox"...

I would have taken the chance of a better player in Fekir a player that since that surgery has only missed 58 days of training du to a knee injury 23 days and a  Bruised Knee 35 days
 

What part don’t you understand?

Ox injury was a massive traumatic one that couldn’t have been foreseen. There clearly was no no prior damage concerning.

In Nabil’s case there is.

It really isn’t that complicated and clearly not a valid comparison.

What part don’t you understand?

Ox injury was a massive traumatic one that couldn’t have been foreseen. There clearly was no no prior damage concerning.

In Nabil’s case there is.

It really isn’t that complicated and clearly not a valid comparison.

Reid is incapable of understanding, that's not what trolls do.

Really need more attacking options this summer. Origi doesn’t cut it.

What part don’t you understand?

Ox injury was a massive traumatic one that couldn’t have been foreseen. There clearly was no no prior damage concerning.

In Nabil’s case there is.

It really isn’t that complicated and clearly not a valid comparison.

He can’t comprehend or understand past his own nose 👍

Yet who has been sit out some 310 plus with a Cruciate Ligament Rupture...?  Before that he was out with Collateral Ligament  for 63 days and two other knee injuries totaling some 179 days 

552 days and counting vs Fakir's 271 days of knee injuries the last 35 days of which was a Bruised Knee "We were happy with what we saw on scans for the Ox"...

I would have taken the chance of a better player in Fekir a player that since that surgery has only missed 58 days of training du to a knee injury 23 days and a  Bruised Knee 35 days

Sometimes try to read and comprehend don't just talk

You have one mouth and two eyes and  ears for a reason

We saw something about the work Fekir had done on his scans and how it had healed and in a medical examiners highly skilled and respected opinion he felt the was a likely hood of the knee going again

Chamberlain there wasn't that risk with that.. what happened to him was a freak accident and a blow up in a tackle
History wasn't a reason for Chamberlians injury

However in the medical opinion it was highly likely that Fekir could do his in a simple training exercise with no impact
Ie not worth the risk

The two aren't comparable..

What part don’t you understand?

Ox injury was a massive traumatic one that couldn’t have been foreseen. There clearly was no no prior damage concerning.

In Nabil’s case there is.

It really isn’t that complicated and clearly not a valid comparison.

An what don't you understand about the word "possible"... Fekir had surgery to fit the problem, it may never re-occur again

The Ox's career has been marred by injury. He had been out for some 510 days and missed two season + of games (81 in total) with injuries from 2012/13 season - 2016/17, and that was before he became a Liverpool player

To give that some perspective Daniel Sturridge has missed since 2008/09 season - 2016/17 some 573 games (537 if you discount the illness 12 days; and a Virus Infection 14 days) and has missed almost three whole seasons, some 106 games

Please note that in both cases I have not counted injuries and missed games of either the 2017/18 season or the 2018/19 season

https://www.transfermarkt.com/daniel-sturridge/verletzungen/spieler/47082
 
Despite having a shorter a flight career than Sturridge, AOC has been on the injury list only 27 days shorter than Sturridge before Liverpool signing him...

To me that is f**king incredible that we should spend money on AOC given his injury record yet Fekir with only a "Possible" Knee concern, have had corrective surgery (2015/16) and since that times has only had 58 days out with two injuries to his Knee, one keeping him out for 23 (16/17) days and a Bruised Knee (17/18) keeping him out for 35 days...

Now if for some other reason Klopp/LFC did not want him, that fine by me, But if it was because of  "Possible concerns about his Knee" that to me, considering they sign The Ox is Bullshit, and rings more true to do with money than the injury concerns.
You just except the bull they feed you without questioning it...

Another victory for the FSG spin Manchine 

An what don't you understand about the word "possible"... Fekir had surgery to fit the problem, it may never re-occur again

The Ox's career has been marred by injury. He had been out for some 510 days and missed two season + of games (81 in total) with injuries from 2012/13 season - 2016/17, and that was before he became a Liverpool player

To give that some perspective Daniel Sturridge has missed since 2008/09 season - 2016/17 some 573 games (537 if you discount the illness 12 days; and a Virus Infection 14 days) and has missed almost three whole seasons, some 106 games

Please note that in both cases I have not counted injuries and missed games of either the 2017/18 season or the 2018/19 season

https://www.transfermarkt.com/daniel-sturridge/verletzungen/spieler/47082
 
Despite having a shorter a flight career than Sturridge, AOC has been on the injury list only 27 days shorter than Sturridge before Liverpool signing him...

To me that is f**king incredible that we should spend money on AOC given his injury record yet Fekir with only a "Possible" Knee concern, have had corrective surgery (2015/16) and since that times has only had 58 days out with two injuries to his Knee, one keeping him out for 23 (16/17) days and a Bruised Knee (17/18) keeping him out for 35 days...

Now if for some other reason Klopp/LFC did not want him, that fine by me, But if it was because of  "Possible concerns about his Knee" that to me, considering they sign The Ox is Bullshit, and rings more true to do with money than the injury concerns.
You just except the bull they feed you without questioning it...

Another victory for the FSG spin Manchine 

You really should.

That’s utter pish right there ☝️

Literally just googled a few things to support a hypothesis, stuck them together and sent it out.

Like lipstick on a pig - it does nothing for the point but does make you question the sanity of the person who did it.

You really should.

That’s utter pish right there ☝️

Literally just googled a few things to support a hypothesis, stuck them together and sent it out.

Like lipstick on a pig - it does nothing for the point but does make you question the sanity of the person who did it.

When all else fails do not attack the point attack the person making it...

When all else fails do not attack the point attack the person making it...

I’m a Fekir fan but mate come on, if the specialist have seen something & decided for the club that a prevention rather than cure is best in not buying Fekir you have to respect that professional opinion..But I guess that won’t satisfy the FSG haters..

Maybe we go back in the summer for him or maybe we get someone better..who knows but in the meantime enjoy the ride....B.

When all else fails do not attack the point attack the person making it...

There is no point - only a false premise backed up by un-related stats you clearly don’t know how to interpret.

Ox knee had no damage that concerned us before we signed him. He then suffered a freak, explosive knee injury. It was not related to any previous injuries.

Fekir’s knee showed clear signs of wear and tear and had been repaired in a way that we believed would inevitably lead to a future chronic issue on our dollar.

That’s all.

Again - IF we are satisfied with his knee then I’m all in. He’s a wonderful player. If not then I’m all out.

There is NO correlation to the Ox. What you are presenting as such is entirely baseless.

Is that clear enough for you?

A medical expert looked at the x Ray of Fekirs knee and said it showed the knee was very week and there is a chance of it happening again - amazing how someone can think they know better than medical experts

I’m a Fekir fan but mate come on, if the specialist have seen something & decided for the club that a prevention rather than cure is best in not buying Fekir you have to respect that professional opinion..But I guess that won’t satisfy the FSG haters..

Maybe we go back in the summer for him or maybe we get someone better..who knows but in the meantime enjoy the ride....B.

I respect what you a say Shabs, but had those same specialist had reviewed AOC medical reports properly and be more fastidious in going about their jobs they would not have signed AOC,or "IF" they were a thought the risk was worth taking they should be sacked...

Looking at both player medical history you have one how is injured every season spend a large part of that short EPL career out of action vs a player who had a bad injury, corrective surgery, and since that surgery has spent a extremely short period
23 days 20015/16 and 35 days 2016/17 with slight knocks which to me indicates the surgery when well...

It is not that I want LFC to sign Fekir, It is that I can not for the life of me see out LFC can justify signing the OX over sign Fekir base solely on a "Possible" problem when all the signs were that he had gotten over that problem...

Again, If for any other reason Klopp did not fancy signing him that's fine. Only don't expect me to buy into this "Possible concern" BS

Remember at the time this news broke the consensus here was that LFC still wanted him but at a reduced price

You really should.

That’s utter pish right there ☝️

Literally just googled a few things to support a hypothesis, stuck them together and sent it out.

Like lipstick on a pig - it does nothing for the point but does make you question the sanity of the person who did it.

It is odd that when you look up stats to back up your point you look to the internet, yet when i do it you frown on it
Pot,Kettle and all

It is odd that when you look up stats to back up your point you look to the internet, yet when i do it you frown on it
Pot,Kettle and all

 

Dude - you put them together like cause and...........vinegar; horse and helicopter; fish and bicycle.......

That’s the issue

Ox knee had no damage that concerned us before we signed him. He then suffered a freak, explosive knee injury. It was not related to any previous injuries.

Fekir’s knee showed clear signs of wear and tear and had been repaired in a way that we believed would inevitably lead to a future chronic issue on our dollar.

I do see where TRDR is coming from. With the knee injures Ox had previously, or to anyone who had a serious knee injures like what Ox (4 serious knee injures) and Ings (3 serious knee injures) had before joining us, even after recovery it has been said by medical experts that there is greater chance of a re-occuring injury or future problems to the knee. And whilst Fekir has only had one known serious injury to his knee, there's a lesser chance of problems for him in the future than Ings or Ox.

Whilst we don't know 100% exactly why we pulled out of the Fekir transfer, after reading so  many various reports as to why by journalists close to the  club, I came to the conclusion that we pulled out because they did not want to lower the price for an "injured" player, and if they were willing, I think we would have taken that chance and have him under the knife to fix the "problem" which would have probably led to him being months out.

I do see where TRDR is coming from. With the knee injures Ox had previously, or to anyone who had a serious knee injures like what Ox (4 serious knee injures) and Ings (3 serious knee injures) had before joining us, even after recovery it has been said by medical experts that there is greater chance of a re-occuring injury or future problems to the knee. And whilst Fekir has only had one known serious injury to his knee, there's a lesser chance of problems for him in the future than Ings or Ox.

Whilst we don't know 100% exactly why we pulled out of the Fekir transfer, after reading so  many various reports as to why by journalists close to the  club, I came to the conclusion that we pulled out because they did not want to lower the price for an "injured" player, and if they were willing, I think we would have taken that chance and have him under the knife to fix the "problem" which would have probably led to him being months out.

I don’t PM but I do respect your opinion.

He’s citing unrelated information and calling coincidence as correlation.

Other than involving knees - the two scenarios are entirely unrelated.

Ox has had a couple of unrelated knee injuries and Fekir has a weak knee.

The medical issues I’ve mentioned have been widely reported. The voices close to the club say we pulled out, period.

Lyon leaked the price stuff - presumably to try and get a new buyer.

I don’t PM but I do respect your opinion.

He’s citing unrelated information and calling coincidence as correlation.

Other than involving knees - the two scenarios are entirely unrelated.

Ox has had a couple of unrelated knee injuries and Fekir has a weak knee.

The medical issues I’ve mentioned have been widely reported. The voices close to the club say we pulled out, period.

Lyon leaked the price stuff - presumably to try and get a new buyer.

This.

It wasn't the injury per se...it was how it was repaired that gave the club pause.

Yes Ox had his own injury issues, but honesty, sometimes players do have bad luck. Just because you are injured once doesn't necessarily mean you'll be injured again if the injury was repaired/rehabbed correctly.

Although, having dealt with ankle injuries for most of my life, I can tell you that you end up favoring the injury especially if it's recurring and that in and of itself can cause you other issues. It changed the way I competed (basketball) to the point where I wasn't able to be as aggressive or explosive as I really should have been because I was worried about re-injury.

That's where I'm at with Ox (and even Joe) will they trust their rehab and trust the joints to be 100%? Because I'm guessing the repairs were done right, but you still have the mental part to deal with.

Ox has had a couple of unrelated knee injuries and Fekir has a weak knee.

I wouldn't quite say unrelated. Ox had four knee ligament injuries in the last 4-5 years prior to joining us, and theoretically, that would make you more susceptible to another ligament damage even after recovery?

Yeah, it was a feak accident, but to put it out there, I do wonder, had a player with no prior multiple knee ligament damage made the same tackle, would they have held up stronger than Ox?

Anyway, I prefer to move on and talk about transfers. I don't think we'll be back in for Fekir, and if we are, I don't think he will be interested now.

The only 4 players I 100% want are, Rabiot, Brandt ,De Ligt and Wan Bissaka!!!

I wouldn't quite say unrelated. Ox had four knee ligament injuries in the last 4-5 years prior to joining us, and theoretically, that would make you more susceptible to another ligament damage even after recovery?

Yeah, it was a feak accident, but to put it out there, I do wonder, had a player with no prior multiple knee ligament damage made the same tackle, would they have held up stronger than Ox?

Anyway, I prefer to move on and talk about transfers. I don't think we'll be back in for Fekir, and if we are, I don't think he will be interested now.

The only 4 players I 100% want are, Rabiot, Brandt and De Ligt and Wan Bissaka!!!

Clearly the medical staff didn’t agree.

Yes, no, maybes and no ta for me.

Ox has had a couple of unrelated knee injuries and Fekir has a weak knee.

 

Fekir has a weak knee

I remember reading somewhere how Harry Kewell was plagued week knee related and groin problems at Liverpool and only when he departed from the club and when back to Australia di the doctors back home fix what they claimed was a simple problem,

Torres claim that there were problems with the medical staff and their treatment of his injuries at LFC

Two players complaining about similar things with our medical staff...?

Dropping the ball with AOC pass injury record...?

I would't trust them to make a judgement on a player

Fekir has a weak knee

Obviously not. My mistake.

That’ll be why no-one has signed him and Aulas keeps saying “he’s on the verge of a new deal” every 5 mins.........

Utter drivel you post boy.

I remember reading somewhere how Harry Kewell was plagued week knee related and groin problems at Liverpool and only when he departed from the club and when back to Australia di the doctors back home fix what they claimed was a simple problem,

Torres claim that there were problems with the medical staff and their treatment of his injuries at LFC

Two players complaining about similar things with our medical staff...?

Dropping the ball with AOC pass injury record...?

I would't trust them to make a judgement on a player

Different medical teams

Different owners

Different manager's

Not at all related

Fekir has a weak knee

You havent read what he is saying have You? At all

For all you have looked at their medical history ( 😂😂😂😂😂😂) independent (qualified) doctors have given the club advise