The Next 10 Games...

First of all, I love the optimism on here, but we have to be a bit more realistic. When you set mental targets you will not meet them and that will result in a bad run of form as players, fans and the manager will beat them selfs up.

Arsenal V Liverpool  - We can win this, but would take a draw. They are top of the pile and playing good football. An away win is never a formality at Arsenal. 1 Point
Liverpool V Fulham - Fulham look to be improving, but at home we should have too much for them. 3 points
Everton V Liverpool - Derby day, fave of the season. They are playing well and its never easy. 1 Point                 
Hull V Liverpool - Must win game, cant drop points here and we shoulnt. 3 Points
Liverpool V Norwich - Another win needed. Suarez hatrick. 3 Points
Liverpool V West Ham - Hate playing big Sam's teams but we should be able to power through. 3 Points
Tottenham V Liverpool - Spurs have been a bogey team over the last 4 years. Cant see us getting a lot here. 0 Points
Liverpool V Cardiff - Should roll these over and no reason to think we wont. 3 Points
Man City V Liverpool - Away at City is no walk in the park. They look a bit rough, but its 9 games away... 0 Points
Chelsea V Liverpool - As above, I cant see us rolling the Chavs. Bad end to a tough month... 0 Points

Now, a bit negative to be honest... But after the Chelsea game it will be the half way point in the season. We would be on 37 Points - play the same way and we finish on 74 points.

In the 08 - 09 season that would have been enough, and every season past then for the Top 4. We then have to face Arsenal, Spurs, City and Chelsea at home in the second half of the season. This gives us a great advantage as we will take points off our rivals.

Thats a realistic target then hopefully get one or two players in Jan and push on from there, put it this way were in a much stronger position than the Mancs and City for 4th Spot. And  hopfully we win at home to fulham the same weekend Arsenal loose to the mancs meaning we can push ahead.

First of all, I love the optimism on here, but we have to be a bit more realistic. When you set mental targets you will not meet them and that will result in a bad run of form as players, fans and the manager will beat them selfs up.

Arsenal V Liverpool  - We can win this, but would take a draw. They are top of the pile and playing good football. An away win is never a formality at Arsenal. 1 Point
Liverpool V Fulham - Fulham look to be improving, but at home we should have too much for them. 3 points
Everton V Liverpool - Derby day, fave of the season. They are playing well and its never easy. 1 Point                 
Hull V Liverpool - Must win game, cant drop points here and we shoulnt. 3 Points
Liverpool V Norwich - Another win needed. Suarez hatrick. 3 Points
Liverpool V West Ham - Hate playing big Sam's teams but we should be able to power through. 3 Points
Tottenham V Liverpool - Spurs have been a bogey team over the last 4 years. Cant see us getting a lot here. 0 Points
Liverpool V Cardiff - Should roll these over and no reason to think we wont. 3 Points
Man City V Liverpool - Away at City is no walk in the park. They look a bit rough, but its 9 games away... 0 Points
Chelsea V Liverpool - As above, I cant see us rolling the Chavs. Bad end to a tough month... 0 Points

Now, a bit negative to be honest... But after the Chelsea game it will be the half way point in the season. We would be on 37 Points - play the same way and we finish on 74 points.

In the 08 - 09 season that would have been enough, and every season past then for the Top 4. We then have to face Arsenal, Spurs, City and Chelsea at home in the second half of the season. This gives us a great advantage as we will take points off our rivals.

That's roughly what I was thinking. I'd expect us to do well in the second half of the season though as all our games against rivals bar united are at home.

Maybe its a good thing then we get all these so called tough games back to back and away as 2nd half when we are stronger we will have to play them at home which is an advantage to us. Fingers crossed we send out a message this weekend and come away with 3 points.

Expect to get 19 points from those 10 games.
Anything above that would be great!

Have always said, if you end December close to 40 points you stand a MASSIVE chance of CL football.

That is a serious set of fixtures. To be honest if we take 18 points (5 wins, 3 draws and 2 defeats), I think we would still be in the mix. As a run of games they involve some real tests. It would be a very optimistic fan who says we can equal the 20-23 we will end up with from the first 10 games.....but hey, ya never know 

After the Southampton game I just can't predict anything. I genuinely thought we would bag the win and we ended up losing.

Just hope we give arsenal a good F***ing game and get stuck in.

Buzzing.

That is a serious set of fixtures.

Arsenals is far worse, in fact apart from the scum all the traditional 'big' teams have a tough run of fixtures before new year.

still think we will manage a 2 point per game avg over the next 10 games and I wouldn't be surprised to better that.Remember we have a week to prepare for each game.

Its more about WHO you beat than the amount of points you take. i.e, beating Arsenal, Everton and Tottenham is far more important than beating any other three. Those are virtual "6 point" games since they are all potential title contenders/CL spot contenders! The 3 points you win+the three they dont mean a lot

still think we will manage a 2 point per game avg over the next 10 games and I wouldn't be surprised to better that.Remember we have a week to prepare for each game.

I expect 19 points, so im pretty much with your prediction here. Anything above that would be great

With our deadly duo upfront there's absolutely NO reason why we can't score goals and more goals in ALL of the next 10 games !!..It's whether we can defend and stand tall against some of those teams goalscorer's ..
Last seasons visit to Arsenal was looking pretty good until Reina bolloxed the whole thing up... likewise with the game at Man city , Reina knackered that one as well..lost us 4 out of a possible 6 points....and we scared the sh*t out of Chelsea at the Bridge !!
We're playing well and long may it last...we're knocking the ball about lovely at the moment , creating chances , scoring great goals..
Give Arsenal a decent game and who knows?...keep our feet on the ground, protect our little Brazilian and allow BR to do his job and it will be other teams worrying about US as opposed to us worrying about them !!..
Like I said though...our back line needs to just tighten up and dig in..
Easy enough to say I know... but I wanna go into those 2 games over Chrimbo Top of the League !!
LETS DO IT !!!

YNWA !!

Arsenal V Liverpool ....Win
Liverpool V Fulham .....Win
Everton V Liverpool .....Draw                     
Hull V Liverpool ..........Win
Liverpool V Norwich......Win
Liverpool V West Ham...Win
Tottenham V Liverpool...Lose
Liverpool V Cardiff........Win
Man City V Liverpool.....Draw
Chelsea V Liverpool.......Win

We just need to win the next game, then someone can start another thread title "The Next 9 Games..."

We just need to win the next game, then someone can start another thread title "The Next 9 Games..."

I'm on it 

We just need to win the next game, then someone can start another thread title "The Next 9 Games..."

Yep, but then again we could just go here?

http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,45194.0.html

..and keep editing the title, Oh wait.

Yep, but then again we could just go here?

http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,45194.0.html

..and keep editing the title, Oh wait.

That would make better sense, cheers

If we are still in the top four after we've played Chelsea on the 29th December I'll be very excited.

For now though, and I really am a 'glass half full' type of guy, I find it hard to believe that the reason we are where we are right now isn't mostly down to the fixture list we were dealt.

Liverpool:
Everton (a) 1pt
Hull (a) 3pts
Norwich (h) 3pts
West Ham (h) 3pts
Spurs (a) 1pt
Cardiff (h) 3pts
Man City (a) 0pt
Chelsea (a) 1pt

Chelsea
West Ham (a) 3pts
Southampton (h) 3pts
Sunderland (a) 3pts
Stoke (a) 3pts
Palace (h) 3pts
Arsenal (a) 1pt
Swansea (h) 3pts
Liverpool (h) 1pt

Spurs:
Man City (a) 0pts
Man Utd (h) 1pt
Fulham (a) 3pts
Sunderland (a) 3pts
Liverpool (h) 1pt
Southampton (a) 1pt
West Brom (h) 3pts
Stoke (h) 3pts

Scum:
Cardiff (a) 3pts
Spurs (a) 1pt
Everton (h) 3pts
Newcastle (h) 3pts
Villa (a) 3pts
West Ham (h) 3pts
Hull (a) 3pts
Norwich (a) 3pts

Arsenal:
Southampton (h) 3pts
Cardiff (a) 3pts
Hull (h) 3pts
Everton (h) 3pts
Man City (a) 0pt
Chelsea (h) 1pt
West Ham (a) 3pts
Newcastle (a) 1pt

Man City:
Spurs (h) 3pts
Swansea (h) 3pts
West Brom (a) 1pt
Southampton (a) 1pt
Arsenal (h) 3pts
Fulham (a) 3pts
Liverpool (h) 3pts
Palace (h) 3pts

Everton:
Liverpool (h) 1pt
Stoke (h) 3pts
United (a) 0pt
Arsenal (a) 0pt
Fulham (h) 3pts
Swansea (a) 1pt
Sunderland (h) 3pts
Southampton (h) 1pt


On paper, the table could shape up to look something like this come January

42pts Arsenal
42pts Manchester United
41pts Chelsea
39pts Manchester City
38pts Liverpool
35pts Spurs
32pts Everton

I do however expect Chelsea, City, and United to drop silly points in those must win games.

If you're going to put Everton in there, then Southampton should be there as well.

If you're going to put Everton in there, then Southampton should be there as well.

I reckon:

Southampton:
Arsenal (a) 0pt
Chelsea (a) 0pt
Villa (h) 3pts
Man City (h) 1pt
Newcastle (a) 1pt
Spurs (h) 1pt
Cardiff (a) 3pts
Everton (a) 1pt

Therefore

42pts Arsenal
42pts Manchester United
41pts Chelsea
39pts Manchester City
38pts Liverpool
35pts Spurs
32pts Southampton
32pts Everton

Would anyone take that table come 1st of Jan?

Southampton:
Arsenal (a) 0pt
Chelsea (a) 0pt
Villa (h) 3pts
Man City (h) 1pt
Newcastle (a) 1pt
Spurs (h) 1pt
Cardiff (a) 3pts
Everton (a) 1pt

Looking at those fixtures, Southampton could do some serious damage to the league.  It wouldn't surprise me if they took far more points than you're giving them credit for.

Here's my take on it, for what it's worth ;
Taking us up to Xmas

Liverpool

Everton (a) 3pts
Hull C.   (a) 3pts
Norwich (h) 3pts
WHU.    (h) 3pts
Spuds.  (a) 1pt
Cardiff   (h) 3pts
Total  16 + 23 = 39pts

Arsenal

Saints (h)  1pt
Cardiff(a). 3pts
Hull C.(h). 3pts
Everton(h) 3pts
M City  (a) 1pt
Chavs. (h) 1pt
Total  12 + 25=37 pts

Saints

Arsenal (a) 1pt
Chavs. (a). 1pt
A Villa.  (h) 3pts
M City.  (h) 3pts
Toon.   (a ) 3pts
Spuds. (h) 3pts
Total 14+22=36pts

Chavs

WHU.   (a). 3pts
Saints.  (h) 1pt
Sund.   (a) 1pt
Stoke.  (a) 3pts
Palace. (h) 3 pts
Arsenal (a) 1 pt
Total. 12+21= 33pts

Scum

Cardiff.    (a ). 3pts
Spuds.    (a ). 1pt
Everton. (h). 3pts
Toon.      (h) 3pts
A Villa.    (a) 3pts
WHU.      (h) 3pts
Total 16 + 20= 36 pts

Blueshite

Liverpool.  (h). 0pts
Stoke.      (h). 3pts
Scum.      (a ) 0pts
Arsenal.    (a) 0pts
Fulham.    (h) 3pts
Swans.     (a) 0pts
Total  6+20=26pts

Spuds

M City.   (a) 1pt
Scum.   (h) 1pt
Fulham. (a) 3pts
Sund.    (a) 0pts
Liverpool(h) 1pt
Saints.  (a) 0pts
Total 6 + 20= 26pts

M City

Spuds.    (h). 1pt
Swans.   (h). 3pts
WBA.      (a) 0pts
Saints.    (a) 0pts
Arsenal.  (h) 1pt
Fulham.  (a) 3pts
Total 8+19= 27pts

League table  @ Xmas reads like thus

Liverpool.   39pts
Arsenal.     37 pts
Saints.       36pts
Scum.        36pts
Chavs.       33pts
M City.       27pts
Spuds.       26pts
B 'sh*te.     26pts
Now doesn't that look lovely , only my take on things lads & ladettes, I love the fact blueshite could be 13 pts behind us at Xmas,
I'd love it to turn out like this but hey, we can but dream.


YNWA