Hello Dadorious, have to say i love a triggered poster, makes for good debating. Thought i'd put this response in the relevant thread as i do not wish to contaminate the Gomez thread with the bile you initially posted there and also with the name of Lovren. I digress................. .
Ah, here it comes again. I have stated fact after fact about Lovren to prove why he is not good enough for Liverpool Football Club. I don't hate Lovren, i feel sorry for him, i feel pity for him. Pity that he constantly craves attention. Who the f**k goes on social media and demands that people accept he is one of the top defenders in the league? What do you think that Carra, Terry, Ferdinand, Agger, Hyypia and the like thought when they read that tripe? Who the f**k lies to their own Club about having a serious injury? By the way, what the hell does shipping out Klavan have to do with the Lovren injury that he hid from the Club? He is a f**king clown, end of.
Six seasons in and still people are sticking up for him. How long do you think is acceptable for a player to be at a Club to judge him fairly? He is a complete and utter arse clown. It is not an obsession i'm afraid, as much as you would have people believe, it is an objective statement based on Season after Season of utter disappointment as he fails time after time after time. Just when you think he might actually provide value for money he fails again. He has a history of peaking (rarely) and troughing (often), absolutely no consistency at all. Consistently whinging and seeking attention? Yes. Consistently playing at a Premier League level? No.
Now if you wish to have an objective debate on the ability, consistency and mental fortitude of Lovren then please fire away. Try and lay off the personal insults though? You have come raging into a debate and had the audacity to call me an obsessed mammary gland? I am not obsessed with Lovren, i am obsessed with ridding our defence of mistakes that have cost us dear over the last few years.
Do you find it a strange coincidence that since Gomez has started alongside van Dijk we are much more solid in the centre? Saturday against Leicester we saw a young centre back look after an experienced centre back. Now i am fully aware that Gomez has a long long way to go. What i am saying is that if Gomez maintains this rate of progression then Lovren will be lucky to see some Carabao Cup and F.A. Cup games if he is lucky.
It basically boils down to this.
You think Lovren is good enough to consistently play in a team with title aspirations.
I think Lovren is nowhere near good enough to consistently play in a team with title aspirations.
Shall we leave it at that or re-open the debate?
Thank you for your time and i look forward to your reply.
“I don’t exactly know about Dejan’s start at Liverpool but he made a few mistakes. People always have that in mind: ‘Oh, Lovren again!’ But I’m long in the business. I said to Dejan: ‘If somebody told me, come on, you have the chance, create a centre-half. We found a way to do it, genetically, bam, bam, bam.’ That’s him, strong, quick, both feet, can head like crazy, jumps through the roof. He’s all you need. Yes, a few things you can improve – his concentration. But these are human beings.
“Other centre-halves make mistakes. Against City, Virgil van Dijk, an outstanding person and fantastic player, should have cleared the ball before they scored. Virgil knows that. But nobody spoke about it because we won. It doesn’t look like it but I’m really relaxed in judging these things. When I see talent, and I’m convinced, I am calm.”
Good enough for Jürgen, more than good enough for me.
I put that in this thread 6 months ago I think. Now what has unfolded since was an impeccable performance from Dejan in the CL final in which he got an assist in. He lead his countries defence with style and class to within a bees dick of a World Cup.
Not sure why you care so much about his personal life or what he does on social media. I will guarantee it though he will never stoop so low to spit on a 13 year old girl and her father in a car. An act you staunchly defended and questioned everyone's support and loyalty if they didn't agree. You also have provided no facts other than again state your personal dislike and style.
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