Stick or Twist: Part 2

But still, I have had to have £10 on QPR at 8-1, after £10 on Hull at 3-1 and Villa in the semi, so despite the misery of this season, you can still make a few quid.

Please tell me that is a joke?

I thought the poll was up until the 4th May?

Anyhow only 40% of the forum definitely think he should stay as Liverpool manager. I'm not sure how we can read into that as fence sitter could go either way and the 'only if Klopp/De Boer' posters could just as easily be counted as wanting to keep Brendan if no 'better' option is available.

I didn't get to vote but honestly was going to log in tonight to vote for a change.

I really don't know if it is the correct option or if I'll still feel this way come the end of the season but after recent weeks, and mostly since our inept display in the semi final, I still have the gut feeling that Brendan maybe has taken us as high as he can.

I'm not shouting from the rooftops for him to be sacked and as I said not even sure if I trust FSG to appoint someone better but how I feel right now.

I thought the poll was up until the 4th May?

Was it?

Was it?

Must have been mistaken mate.

Thought I seen 4th May under the poll the other day.

Must have been trying to buy time in my head.

I could never bet against Liverpool, what ever the odds.

I very occasionally do. Means my obligatory post match commiseration beers are paid for.

I haven't voted on this yet, for the simple reason, I think if Brendan gets a decent transfer kitty, I would like to see who his targets are, and see, if they are quality, can he persuade them to play for him. ( top drawer that is ) or would the financial constraints of FSG hold him back. If that's the case, then the blame goes on FSG and not Brendan. Any lack of funds would also have the same impact on whoever the manager was.  To date, Brendans signings have been very varied from the sublime to totally crap. Is that all down to him, or collectively from the 'committee' ? Will we ever know....
It's difficult to say wether he should stay or go when we don't really know who's responsible for the crap signings.
 I do think he is solely responsible for some of the poor tactics and line ups, but he can learn from that, he can't learn anything if his hands are tied by FSG.
So for now i'm on the fence, with a decision to be made on the outcome of the above.

Please tell me that is a joke?

It didn't come across as one.

I voted on the fence, because i honestly don't know if BR is the problem or the owners.

But what I am sure of is that the transfer committee has to go, so does our scouts and the whole process of how we scout and sign players.

Although I like BR, he does tend to make the same mistakes over and over again.  Then we have the post match interviews.

I am beginning to think that Suarez ability made us challenge for the title last year rather then, the brilliance of BR. It may sound harsh but I watched the whole season review again, forget the goals scored by Suarez, he had assists and he leads with the example. Chasing after the ball and yelling at other players. Things like that pick up a team.

That said, the players do like BR and BR handles himself well, when he wants to. He is young and if only he starts learning from his mistakes then he will he a class manager.

He isn't afraid to chop and change formation, and that's a good thing, he wants to play attacking football and win in style. That's not many manager out there who are willing to take the same risk. Can we watch a boring Liverpool every week?

He just needs to show he is getting better, and to really judge that. I say give him another year with full control over who he wants to sign. Then make a decision next year.

Kopp won't come to us. I can't see him joining us. Just like every players he wants to win everything and buy who ever he wants.

Got to be shitty, real or even barca if they crash out of cl.

Thought I seen 4th May under the poll the other day.

Think it was.  Changed it so we can lock it before tomorrow's game.

I haven't voted on this yet

So for now i'm on the fence

There's an option for that too.

There's an option for that too.

Can I have an option for Gary Monk too please because we will only change lower to what we have?

Just asked myself this before I made the vote:

If you are not successful as you hoped to be and you have the chance to get a Jürgen Klopp, with all due respect to Brendan, wouldn't it be stupid not to take that opportunity? 

Just asked myself this before I made the vote:

If you are not successful as you hoped to be and you have the chance to get a Jürgen Klopp, with all due respect to Brendan, wouldn't it be stupid not to take that opportunity? 

Don't think we will be stupid if we don't take a good look at Klopp, simply because Brendan has showed he has talent in him. But it does pose a strong question to the owners, one i'm glad i won't have to answer because it is tough.

Everyone saw us at our best and despite not winning the league, we were the best team in the league. We haven't been able to say that for 25 years and it was under Brendan's management we achieved that.

But Klopp has been there, won big competitions and managed against the best and won. His lure could bring some top signings with him from Germany, also.

Everyone saw us at our best and despite not winning the league, we were the best team in the league. We haven't been able to say that for 25 years and it was under Brendan's management we achieved that.
 

Fair point yeah, but would you pin the success of last season on Brendan's talent or rather on the fact that we had a word class player in Luis Saurez in our team? Who might have helped Brendan to look better then he acutally his?

Fair point yeah, but would you pin the success of last season on Brendan's talent or rather on the fact that we had a word class player in Luis Saurez in our team? Who might have helped Brendan to look better then he acutally his?

Quality managers need quality players and vice versa. To Brendan's credit we aren't too far off on the ladder from teams who have access to every player they want and he has done it without an established side or an established goal scorer.

There are things he definitely needs to work on but i think he deserves one more crack.

F**k me. 41.8% of our supporters want him gone. Add the fence sitters to that ( fence sitters are supporters who want him gone but don't want to say it) and it equates to 58.9% of our forum base.

I find that quite astounding and disturbing if i am honest.

F**k me. 41.8% of our supporters want him gone. Add the fence sitters to that ( fence sitters are supporters who want him gone but don't want to say it) and it equates to 58.9% of our forum base.

I find that quite astounding and disturbing if i am honest.

Disturbing was if it happened the other way around, it's normal people want him out after so many failures.

F**k me. 41.8% of our supporters want him gone. Add the fence sitters to that ( fence sitters are supporters who want him gone but don't want to say it) and it equates to 58.9% of our forum base.

I find that quite astounding and disturbing if i am honest.

I think you will find most supporters who want him out do only on the basis we replace him with Klopp or Benitez. Otherwise most would rather he remains for another seaosn.

Add the fence sitters to that ( fence sitters are supporters who want him gone but don't want to say it)

I'm a fence sitter, don't really appreciate being told what I think.

Cheers.

I'm a fence sitter, don't really appreciate being told what I think.

Cheers.

You either want him out or you don't. I've never understood fence sitters.

It's like they used to be indecisive but now they're not so sure.

If, after watching Brendan for almost three years you can't make an informed decision or judgement then there is something very wrong.

I think you will find most supporters who want him out do only on the basis we replace him with Klopp or Benitez. Otherwise most would rather he remains for another seaosn.

What i find disturbing is the fact that somebody would want somebody replaced but only on the premise that they would be replaced with a certain candidate.

If somebody wants Brendan out it then that should be absolute. If anyone thinks the manager is not good enough then he should be gone, regardless of who the potential replacement is.

I want him out & i can't understand why you would be surprised.

This season has been an unmitigated disaster from day one
In fact it was a disaster from before day 1 (Lovren Markovic Balotelli ect)

Rogers buys have been terrible in the main.
He's an outstanding coach but a very very average manager who's not good enough for Liverpool

Put it this way i have not gone to the game today & i couldn't give my seat away for the game.

Who organised the F***ing 'Rodgers out Rafa in' banner?