The Transfer Committee Thread

Interesting day .

One that sees Andy Carroll bag a hat trick  against the Arse.

Bought by Comolli and Kenny for £35 million plus and then sold off by the TC by way first of all a £2 million loan then a year later £15 million.
Half price .
We were told by Brendan that Andy Carroll was no good for his  style of play.


Then TC  / Brendan or both  buy Benteke.
Who will be probably sold off for ...................  ?

Half price ?

It seems to me, The manager whoever it is, wants a player of a particular type. The scouts find a few players of that type, and they are listed in order of preference. The manager elects who he wants, the transfer committee then do their due diligence, weighing up the age, purchase price, wages, agents fees, possible sell on price, and report to the owners. If the figures don't add up, we go to the second option, then the third etc. etc. The manager though, ( as BR said) always has the last say.
 I would therefore conclude that the transfer committee system of player purchase, does not work. Or at least it hasn't for us on many occasions. Perhaps it has when the first option was attainable, but certainly not consistently enough to be deemed a success.
If the manager sources a player, does the form and ability checks himself, and then gets the player bought, there's no one else to blame.  If he has a plan, he and his backroom staff will know exactly what sort of player he needs to fit into his system.
A transfer committee of sorts may work at other clubs, but ours seems to be made up from ex lower league and amateur players, or some with no previous footballing experience at all.
All in all, either the transfer committee is at fault, or the manager who allows it to happen and go over his head is at fault.
If the manager is strong enough to demand, ONLY the players HE wants, will be bought. The transfer committee is not required.

Just my opinion.       

Happy to jump on this bandwagon mate, but just to make things a little clearer does this apply to selling players too? 'Cos if Coutinho goes I will want to be blaming someone ...

If the likes of Couts moves on, it will be for CL footy I would guess. Don't think any manager would wish to move him on, or any player of that calibre, but if a player doesn't want to play for you........

but if a player doesn't want to play for you........

you put him in chains and lock him in a dungeon and only let him out on match days ?

Quite honestly he is the only player we have at the moment that would cause me real concern if he left. If Firmino, Studge go I would be disappointed, but Coutinho leaving would really demonstrate the lack of ambition and lowered status of our club.

While I accept that sometimes there is nothing you can do, I think that there are things we can do to help keep him here. Show more ambition in transfers, give him a contract that is the equal of others at the club (with a huge buyout) and as you say hopefully give him the CL football he wants here.     

Interesting day .

One that sees Andy Carroll bag a hat trick  against the Arse.

Bought by Comolli and Kenny for £35 million plus and then sold off by the TC by way first of all a £2 million loan then a year later £15 million.
Half price .
We were told by Brendan that Andy Carroll was no good for his  style of play.


Then TC  / Brendan or both  buy Benteke.
Who will be probably sold off for ...................  ?

Half price ?

He scores a hatrick 3 years after being at Liverpool... Bit late that.

You are funny though.

 

File that under: Planetdesperation

He scores a hatrick 3 years after being at Liverpool... Bit late that.

You are funny though.

 

File that under: Planetdesperation

Whats that green thing next to your name ?
 

Whats that green thing next to your name ?
 

That green thing next to my name means I am currently logged on. 

That green thing next to my name means I am currently logged on. 

I would never have guessed.

West Ham manager Slaven Bilic says that Andy Carroll is the "best in the world" at heading the ball after the striker scored a hat-trick against Arsenal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36006770

Kenny and Comolli may have been right.
Brendan /  Transfer Committee  may have been wrong.
We will never know.


Zen saying :   Whats the sound of one hand clapping ?

West Ham manager Slaven Bilic says that Andy Carroll is the "best in the world" at heading the ball after the striker scored a hat-trick against Arsenal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36006770

Kenny and Comolli may have been right.
Brendan /  Transfer Committee  may have been wrong.
We will never know.


Zen saying :   Whats the sound of one hand clapping ?

Be injured again next week.

Whoever Carroll plays for, he was never a player suited to Liverpool.

It was a mistake to buy him, and his attitude was pathetic. Doesn't explain why Rodgers wasted so much on Benteke (utterly perplexed at why he did this) and I think the transfer committee are still a bunch of low league level goons but I'm glad he was sold.

A transfer committee is none other than an excuse and a smokescreen for owners to justify their:
1) inability/unwillingness to pay up for and;
2) their poor judgement to select and do a deal to acquire

the most suitable players, for reasons apart from winning football matches.

A transfer committee is none other than an excuse and a smokescreen for owners to justify their:
1) inability/unwillingness to pay up for and;
2) their poor judgement to select and do a deal to acquire

the most suitable players, for reasons apart from winning football matches.

Yet most teams in the world have a transfer committee or something similar...must be a global conspiracy.

Yet most teams in the world have a transfer committee or something similar...must be a global conspiracy.

Difference is they mostly ain't absolute no-marks and don't include non-football people like that tw*t Mike Gordon!!

Difference is they mostly ain't absolute no-marks and don't include non-football people like that tw*t Mike Gordon!!

TBF

Doubt posters on this board know much about other teams transfer committees, they're members and if they are no-marks or twits and seeing how transfers as a whole are 50/50 propositions at best I doubt we are that much better or worse than anybody else.

We just see/talk about out TC everyday whereas we don't speak or have knowledge of others.

Means F**k all now anyway with Jürgen here.

Whoever Carroll plays for, he was never a player suited to Liverpool.

West Ham have been better than us for a couple seasons now. I dont think we are in a position (or have been) to have this kind of attitude.

He would and could work for us in the right circumstances.

We apparently have some sort of 'style' that we like to play. Remind me where it has gotten us? 1 close title run in the last 5 years? a cup final? Maybe its time we re-visit this 'style' we apparently play. Because it doesnt seem to be paying off very much. And we keep wasting MILLIONS.

West Ham have been better than us for a couple seasons now. I dont think we are in a position (or have been) to have this kind of attitude.

He would and could work for us in the in the right circumstances.

Have they really? Pretty sure they finished 12th last season!

West Ham have been better than us for a couple seasons now. I dont think we are in a position (or have been) to have this kind of attitude.

He would and could work for us in the right circumstances.

We apparently have some sort of 'style' that we like to play. Remind me where it has gotten us? 1 close title run in the last 5 years? a cup final? Maybe its time we re-visit this 'style' we apparently play. Because it doesnt seem to be paying off very much. And we keep wasting MILLIONS.

Klopp will address your concerns.

West Ham have been better than us for a couple seasons now. I dont think we are in a position (or have been) to have this kind of attitude.

He would and could work for us in the right circumstances.

We apparently have some sort of 'style' that we like to play. Remind me where it has gotten us? 1 close title run in the last 5 years? a cup final? Maybe its time we re-visit this 'style' we apparently play. Because it doesnt seem to be paying off very much. And we keep wasting MILLIONS.

Should we just F**k off our playing 'style' you know the one Barca copied from (for tiki taka see pass and move) and go for something like Wimbledon and Stoke like to play.

Just lump it up to the big man or route one as it was called!!

Should we just F**k off our playing 'style' you know the one Barca copied from (for tiki taka see pass and move) and go for something like Wimbledon and Stoke like to play.

Just lump it up to the big man or route one as it was called!!

Course we should mate, just think of how much money we could get for selling Cou, Firmino, Studge and Lallana who would all be redundant in a system that accommodates the likes of big Andy and/or Benteke.

While we're at it we should have kept the Owl as Manager just so we have someone competent to implement that "style".

 

Course we should mate, just think of how much money we could get for selling Cou, Firmino, Studge and Lallana who would all be redundant in a system that accommodates the likes of big Andy and/or Benteke.

While we're at it we should have kept the Owl as Manager just so we have someone competent to implement that "style".

 

On form today Debs!

On form today Debs!

It's surprising what good performances and results can do mate 

Should we just f**k off our playing 'style' you know the one Barca copied from (for tiki taka see pass and move) and go for something like Wimbledon and Stoke like to play.

Just lump it up to the big man or route one as it was called!!

you're being very simplistic about what carroll and benteke can do. They aren't just target men. Nevertheless

i hardly think having 2 wingers either side of a striker, who could actually cross accurately and have pace, would be 'changing the system' (a system that we haven't even been successful with btw). ANY striker (sturridge, origi, ings) would benefit from having that outlet out wide on either side. We played better with sterling out wide and he was all pace! couldn't even cross.