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      Eduardo Salvio - Benfica
      May 25, 2015 08:48:18 pm
      Benfica winger Eduardo Salvio JETS IN to Anfield for £40m transfer talks with Liverpool

      LIVERPOOL are closing in on a deal to sign Benfica winger Eduardo Salvio, according to reports in Portugal.

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      Eduardo Salvio is headed for talks at Anfield

      According to Portuguese paper O'Jogo the Benfica president and Salcio's agent have flown to the UK to tie up a deal.

      Salvio has a £40million buyout clause although it is suggested the Reds will try and negotiate a better price with Benfica in financial trouble.

      The 24-year-old has represented Argentina five times.

      He joined Benfica in 2012 from Atletico Madrid after an initial loan spell.

      This season he scored nine times in 29 Liga Sagres appearances

      Daily Express getting this from Portuguese paper O'Jogo. No idea how reliable O'Jogo is.
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      Reply #1: May 25, 2015 08:54:51 pm
      Seems very expensive but Salvio is supposedly very talented. Don't know what to think of it yet.
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      Reply #2: May 25, 2015 09:00:24 pm
      Seems very expensive but Salvio is supposedly very talented. Don't know what to think of it yet.

      Apparently if rumours are to be believed Benfica are a bit cash strapped at the moment and will sell Salvio for €30 million.

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      Reply #3: May 25, 2015 09:31:41 pm
      not worth it.

      move onto where we actually need strengthing ffs,  this incompetent management team doesn't make it easy for themselves do they?
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      Reply #4: May 25, 2015 09:35:59 pm
      No thread in here is complete without the old YouTube clip...

      https://youtu.be/_Xgl_Syc_7w
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      Reply #5: May 25, 2015 09:38:23 pm
      No thread in here is complete without the old YouTube clip...

      https://youtu.be/_Xgl_Syc_7w

      Literally just watched this one on YouTube :D I'm surprised at how many headers he scored last/this season considering his lack of height.
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      Reply #6: May 25, 2015 09:40:38 pm
      Literally just watched this one on YouTube :D I'm surprised at how many headers he scored last/this season considering his lack of height.

      It was the dodgy music that kept me watching.
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      Reply #7: May 25, 2015 10:01:26 pm
      Shades of last summer when we were splashing money on wide men while neglecting the main area needing strengthening ( ie upfront, to state the obvious).

      Was surprised  when we went for both Lallana and Markovic when it seemed we only needed one ( plus we were supposedly chasing Shaqiri too, even after signing the other 2).
      I've no objection to us signing big money wingers, but if we spend £30m+ on this guy, and then bring in Danny Ings as our marquee striker, it may just drive me mental.

      (As for senor Salvio considered in himself, I have no idea about him - he may well be very good.)

      Edit to add:
      Just watched that youtube vid - it says his main weakness is his defensive contribution. Suddenly his signing makes more sense - we do have a vacancy at right back.
      « Last Edit: May 25, 2015 10:15:38 pm by sore monad »
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      Reply #8: May 25, 2015 10:04:06 pm
      E. Salvio has a ligament rupture in his right knee and is likely to need surgery, according to Benfica.
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      Reply #9: May 25, 2015 10:05:25 pm
      Sounds like another markovic to me.. We will never learn
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      Reply #10: May 25, 2015 10:07:57 pm
      Another winger?  :roll:
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      Reply #11: May 25, 2015 10:10:05 pm
      Sounds like another markovic to me.. We will never learn

      Because he's from Benfica?
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      Reply #12: May 25, 2015 10:10:25 pm
      E. Salvio has a ligament rupture in his right knee and is likely to need surgery, according to Benfica.

      I read somewhere it is not going to require surgery and he would be out for 3 weeks
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      Reply #13: May 25, 2015 10:12:17 pm
      I read somewhere it is not going to require surgery and he would be out for 3 weeks

      Doesn't sound too bad then, as we were. :)
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      Reply #14: May 25, 2015 10:12:49 pm
      £40mill?! Yikes...
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      Reply #15: May 25, 2015 10:13:38 pm
      We're not interested in any wingers though aren't we?
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      Reply #16: May 25, 2015 11:53:11 pm
      We're not interested in any wingers though aren't we?

      Well we weren't interested in Balotelli either were we? :P
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      Reply #17: May 26, 2015 03:43:32 am

      Another overpriced winger that isnt proven and will prob take alot of time to adjust in the premiership and hasnt really done it on a big stage.
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      Reply #18: May 26, 2015 04:27:18 am
      Another overpriced winger that isnt proven and will prob take alot of time to adjust in the premiership and hasnt really done it on a big stage.

      I agree, Downing and Lallana are perfect examples.....
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      Reply #19: May 26, 2015 06:04:59 am
      40m will probably get you a Marco Reus.

      Will we ever learn?
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      Reply #20: May 26, 2015 06:31:00 am
      40m will probably get you a Marco Reus.

      Will we ever learn?

      This !

      No mention you could get for less a player like Pedro.

      Depay was cheaper and a better player in my opinion.
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      Reply #21: May 26, 2015 08:24:01 am
      Konoplyanka and Ayew being available for free and no less proven than this guy I don't see why we'd be interested in paying tens of millions for that other winger.

      Now it's LFC so we'll probably prefer to spend 60m on new wingers, then start the season with Ings as lone striker.
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      Reply #22: May 26, 2015 08:47:28 am
      He is injured now, so we won't sign him.
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      Reply #23: May 26, 2015 09:52:47 am
      We're not interested in any wingers though aren't we?

      That's the bit which is in danger of getting on my tits if I'm being honest mate and big-time at that. I'll hold my counsel for now.  >:D
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      Reply #24: May 26, 2015 10:28:32 am
      We offer 14m for Vidal but are willing to spend 30m+ on this lad? :lmao: I quite like the look of him but not instead of other better and cheaper options.
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      Reply #25: May 26, 2015 10:59:40 am
      We really should not be complaining about signing a highly rated Argentinian international player even if the price seems a little high. After all without CL football to offer we will have to overspend on any good players available.

      And last two Argentinian international players we signed weren't too bad were they?
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      Reply #26: May 26, 2015 11:03:45 am
      That's the bit which is in danger of getting on my tits if I'm being honest mate and big-time at that. I'll hold my counsel for now.  >:D

      Yep.
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      Reply #27: May 26, 2015 12:15:25 pm
      We really should not be complaining about signing a highly rated Argentinian international player even if the price seems a little high. After all without CL football to offer we will have to overspend on any good players available.

      And last two Argentinian international players we signed weren't too bad were they?

      He hasn't played for Argentina in 3 years, and only played 160 minutes before that, mostly in friendlies. So I'm not sure his international status is something to brag about. What is it that makes him so highly rated?
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      Reply #28: May 26, 2015 12:44:00 pm
      He is injured now, so we won't sign him.

      Don't put your head on that, we signed a certain italian AA as soon as he had aknee operation.remember?
        that said... never seen this savio play so I cannot really judge, but a winger is not the priority at the moment,

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      Reply #29: May 26, 2015 12:45:48 pm
      He hasn't played for Argentina in 3 years, and only played 160 minutes before that, mostly in friendlies. So I'm not sure his international status is something to brag about. What is it that makes him so highly rated?


      He was a highly rated youngster when he was with Athletico and has improved season on season since then with Benfica. His stats are much better than Markovic's who we paid £20 million for and he is Benfica's best attacking player this season.
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      Reply #30: May 26, 2015 01:18:31 pm
      He was a highly rated youngster when he was with Athletico and has improved season on season since then with Benfica. His stats are much better than Markovic's who we paid £20 million for and he is Benfica's best attacking player this season.

      But if he was that highly rated then why did Atletico sell him? How has he improved when he's just as productive now as when he just joined in his first 2012/2013 season at Benfica? Looking at his production this season, he didn't produce anything against their 3 other big teams, Porto, Sporting or Braga. His production doesn't set him apart from their other wingers, Matias has 17 goals, Gaitain 15 assists. Total production basically on par.

      I'm genuinely interested as I actually haven't seen anything of him this season. Ofcourse in hindsight most deals will look good now compared to Markovic. But if anything that speaks against Markovic, not for anyone else. There's no doubt in my mind Eduardio Salvio would perform better for us than Markovic has, but that doesn't say much.
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      Reply #31: May 26, 2015 04:00:20 pm
      But if he was that highly rated then why did Atletico sell him? How has he improved when he's just as productive now as when he just joined in his first 2012/2013 season at Benfica? Looking at his production this season, he didn't produce anything against their 3 other big teams, Porto, Sporting or Braga. His production doesn't set him apart from their other wingers, Matias has 17 goals, Gaitain 15 assists. Total production basically on par.

      I'm genuinely interested as I actually haven't seen anything of him this season. Ofcourse in hindsight most deals will look good now compared to Markovic. But if anything that speaks against Markovic, not for anyone else. There's no doubt in my mind Eduardio Salvio would perform better for us than Markovic has, but that doesn't say much.

      Markovic has played RWB, some people forget that.
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      Reply #32: May 26, 2015 04:27:58 pm
      Markovic has played RWB, some people forget that.

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       and if this Salvio lad comes to LIVERPOOL and is played out of his position, we will be saying the same thing we are saying for Lazar
       Markovic was a star with Benfica , most of the time he got   the MOTM,
       He did not set the pitch elite here this season, now if it is, playing out his normal position, adapting to english football, or something else, I don't know

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      Reply #33: May 26, 2015 04:35:26 pm
      !!! Yevhen Konoplyanka !!!
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      Reply #34: May 26, 2015 04:41:41 pm
      Markovic has played RWB, some people forget that.

      I didn't, still overall has looked dissapointing going forward. But he's still young.
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      Reply #35: May 26, 2015 06:52:09 pm
      Konoplyanka is demanding £100,000 a week. Probably, the reason Spurs pulled out and we haven't even bothered to go back.
      ... which again confuses me, cos we are supposedly offering Sterling that money and not ready to do the same on his possible replacement who is available for free.

      We could practically get Ings, Milner and Kono for free, and channelize our spend only on a 'marquee' striker and a 'marquee' central midfielder.
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      Reply #36: May 26, 2015 09:42:57 pm
      http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/liverpool-pull-out-of-deal-to-sign-player-club-announcement-confi

      Comical isn't it, we're so close to signing a player and then oh it's off....

      If it was a one off you'd think oh that's bad luck, terrible timing, all that background work gone to waste. However coincidences don't keep recurring as often as this without some conclusions being drawn.

      The PR campaign is off to a flyer!!

      Don't worry when we end up with some Mr Potential or his brother Mr Eez Lee Payd we'll always be able to say but we tried for Salvio!!! Wasn't our fault guys, Ayre was all over it.
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      Reply #37: May 26, 2015 09:48:40 pm
      who in the blue hell is this guy?

      and why are we not trying to sign pedro for much cheaper?
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      Reply #38: May 27, 2015 12:55:41 am
      who in the blue hell is this guy?

      and why are we not trying to sign pedro for much cheaper?

      This. Pedro is said to be available for 7M and is definitely proven.
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      Reply #39: May 27, 2015 11:49:37 am
      http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/liverpool-pull-out-of-deal-to-sign-player-club-announcement-confi

      Comical isn't it, we're so close to signing a player and then oh it's off....

      If it was a one off you'd think oh that's bad luck, terrible timing, all that background work gone to waste. However coincidences don't keep recurring as often as this without some conclusions being drawn.

      The PR campaign is off to a flyer!!

      Don't worry when we end up with some Mr Potential or his brother Mr Eez Lee Payd we'll always be able to say but we tried for Salvio!!! Wasn't our fault guys, Ayre was all over it.

      Said it for a while, but appears we've finally turned into Everton, loads of interest in players while nothing concrete happens.
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      Reply #40: May 27, 2015 12:38:18 pm
      http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/liverpool-pull-out-of-deal-to-sign-player-club-announcement-confi

      Comical isn't it, we're so close to signing a player and then oh it's off....

      If it was a one off you'd think oh that's bad luck, terrible timing, all that background work gone to waste. However coincidences don't keep recurring as often as this without some conclusions being drawn.

      The PR campaign is off to a flyer!!

      Don't worry when we end up with some Mr Potential or his brother Mr Eez Lee Payd we'll always be able to say but we tried for Salvio!!! Wasn't our fault guys, Ayre was all over it.

      Have you read the link?
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      However, Salvio injured his knee at the week and whilst O Jogo were aware of this yesterday, they thought it was less serious that has turned out. Initial optimism after the injury encouraged reports that a transfer could still go through but Benfica have now confirmed that the injury is worse and may need an operation. O Jogo say the player could be out of action for six months, and therefore Liverpool and Benfica have called off negotiations.

      Liverpool were left with no other option than to pull out and if the deal was as close to being done as O Jogo claimed, it's a huge shame for the player. It's not the first time Salvio has suffered a serious knee injury and he must be devastated to have such poor luck once again. Salvio injured the ligaments in the same knee in 2013 so the reoccurrence adds a further concern to the situation.

      Are we now sinking to dishonest posts to pursue an agenda?

      The reason we pulled out (if we were in at all) is very, very clear: his knee is fu**ed.
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      Reply #41: May 27, 2015 01:52:31 pm
      Have you read the link?
      Are we now sinking to dishonest posts to pursue an agenda?

      The reason we pulled out (if we were in at all) is very, very clear: his knee is fu**ed.

      Nothing dishonest Swab, my contention being we knew he was injured before we 'swooped' and then pulled out because he's injured, excuse me if I've become extremely sceptical with regards all our transfer dealings, especially one where we're supposedly about to spend £40m but conveniently have a reason to call it off, it stinks.
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      Reply #42: May 27, 2015 03:06:19 pm
      Watched the game he got injured in where they won 4-1. His injury looked nasty, it got caught in the ground and his body twisted in the opposite direction to his leg. Took about 5 minutes to stretcher off the field.

      Hard to judge him on the game. They were too good for Maritimo and most of the team just wanted to give Jonas the ball for the golden boot award or something.

      I do like the look of Maxi Pereira though. Maybe if he was a bit younger because he doesn't look too quick nowadays but his positioning and support was great for a fullback. Not gung-ho but perfected his runs.
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      Reply #43: May 27, 2015 05:54:25 pm
      Nothing dishonest Swab, my contention being we knew he was injured before we 'swooped' and then pulled out because he's injured, excuse me if I've become extremely sceptical with regards all our transfer dealings, especially one where we're supposedly about to spend £40m but conveniently have a reason to call it off, it stinks.

      So what you are saying is that our transfer committee is doing more and harder work trying to find targets that we can supposedly be "in for" then pull out of for good reason as opposed to just finding targets that we could actually buy?
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      Reply #44: May 27, 2015 06:00:03 pm
      So what you are saying is that our transfer committee is doing more and harder work trying to find targets that we can supposedly be "in for" then pull out of for good reason as opposed to just finding targets that we could actually buy?

      I'm saying it's easy PR to say we're in for a guy we can never actually buy.

      'We tried but' has been the opening words of how many of our transfer debacles now?

      The list is getting ridiculous.

      So do I believe our interest in this lad was disingenuous? Based on past experience, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
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      Reply #45: May 27, 2015 06:08:06 pm
      Nothing dishonest Swab, my contention being we knew he was injured before we 'swooped' and then pulled out because he's injured, excuse me if I've become extremely sceptical with regards all our transfer dealings, especially one where we're supposedly about to spend £40m but conveniently have a reason to call it off, it stinks.

      Oh come on mate.
      It states clearly that his second and most recent knee injury wasn't thought to be serious at first, and we didn't pull out until it became clear the injury was worse than first feared.

      It does nobody credit when lies of omission are used in pursuit of an agenda.

      I have no problems with people being wary of our transfer dealing, but when we start getting into half truth territory, I switch off and no longer take a poster seriously, and you deserve better than that as you usually post good stuff.
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      Reply #46: May 27, 2015 06:33:55 pm
      I'm saying it's easy PR to say we're in for a guy we can never actually buy.

      'We tried but' has been the opening words of how many of our transfer debacles now?

      The list is getting ridiculous.

      So do I believe our interest in this lad was disingenuous? Based on past experience, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

      That's what I'm saying....if that's the case then our TC is doing more work finding guys we can't sign than actually finding people we CAN sign.
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      Reply #47: May 27, 2015 06:36:12 pm
      Oh come on mate.
      It states clearly that his second and most recent knee injury wasn't thought to be serious at first, and we didn't pull out until it became clear the injury was worse than first feared.

      It does nobody credit when lies of omission are used in pursuit of an agenda.

      I have no problems with people being wary of our transfer dealing, but when we start getting into half truth territory, I switch off and no longer take a poster seriously, and you deserve better than that as you usually post good stuff.

      It does Swab but if you look above there's lads that say he took 5 minutes just to be stretchered off.

      Maybe I've just been battered into submission by our overwhelming incompetence but as soon as I read the title I thought "no chance we're signing him" and then the next time I'm in here the deal is off, it just fits our current m.o. too well for me not to be suspicious of it.

      I'll happily admit that it's just as likely we were never interested in him at all but right now I get the overwhelming feeling we're all being strung along for the ride and I'm not a happy passenger.
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      Reply #48: May 27, 2015 06:52:35 pm
      It does Swab but if you look above there's lads that say he took 5 minutes just to be stretchered off.

      Maybe I've just been battered into submission by our overwhelming incompetence but as soon as I read the title I thought "no chance we're signing him" and then the next time I'm in here the deal is off, it just fits our current m.o. too well for me not to be suspicious of it.

      I'll happily admit that it's just as likely we were never interested in him at all but right now I get the overwhelming feeling we're all being strung along for the ride and I'm not a happy passenger.

      It's understandable that people have issues especially after the Stoke debacle, but I'm pretty relaxed about the whole thing.
      I've seen enough from the new players, bar one exception, to think that first season syndrome is the problem, not the coach or (most of) the players.
      I'm also sure the problem is not one of money. We spent plenty and offered Sanchez more wages than Arsenal, which says to me that we WILL offer higher wages when the situation merits it, especially when you add in the Suarez deal and other players who have had improved contracts.
      I've no doubt a few more players will be gone this summer, and whilst this might have been an interesting signing, I don't think it was ever really the top priority.

      Then we have the usual madness about transfers where seemingly sensible people suddenly believe every rumour the rags throw out there, and I'd bet that not 1 in 20 contain even a shred of truth.

      For what it's worth, I think people will be surprised by our signings.
      I don't expect the household names that many get so hung up on, but I do expect us to sign more "ready made" players, in the mid 20's age group, as I said many months ago in a conversation with Reddebs.
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      Re: Eduardo Salvio - Benfica
      Reply #49: May 27, 2015 07:14:46 pm
      It's understandable that people have issues especially after the Stoke debacle, but I'm pretty relaxed about the whole thing.
      I've seen enough from the new players, bar one exception, to think that first season syndrome is the problem, not the coach or (most of) the players.
      I'm also sure the problem is not one of money. We spent plenty and offered Sanchez more wages than Arsenal, which says to me that we WILL offer higher wages when the situation merits it, especially when you add in the Suarez deal and other players who have had improved contracts.
      I've no doubt a few more players will be gone this summer, and whilst this might have been an interesting signing, I don't think it was ever really the top priority.

      Then we have the usual madness about transfers where seemingly sensible people suddenly believe every rumour the rags throw out there, and I'd bet that not 1 in 20 contain even a shred of truth.

      For what it's worth, I think people will be surprised by our signings.
      I don't expect the household names that many get so hung up on, but I do expect us to sign more "ready made" players, in the mid 20's age group, as I said many months ago in a conversation with Reddebs.

      All I can really say to that Swab is I hope you're right and I'm wrong, I really do.
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      Re: Eduardo Salvio - Benfica
      Reply #50: May 27, 2015 07:17:33 pm
      All I can really say to that Swab is I hope you're right and I'm wrong, I really do.

      Again, I completely understand why people are feeling this way.
      For many it was an incredibly disappointing season, especially given what we saw the season before, so I know why people are feeling so down. I just try and find the positives, that's all.

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