Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager

Well done Boss !

A couple of penalties away from winning something five months after arriving .

With someone else's team.

Miraculous !

The last time we won the European Cup, was from a penalty shoot out.
The last time we won the FA Cup, was from a penalty shoot out.
The last time we won the League Cup, was from a penalty shoot out.
The last time we won the League, was from a penalty on the day it was clinched.

Like the Germans themselves, if there's one area of the game we specialise in, it's the art of taking penalties. No wonder Klopp was beaming during the break before them. Like me, he expected the team to finish the job, not merely settle for a draw at Anfield South (against a side the same "someone else's team" destroyed in half an hour a few months back) as "miraculous".

So do I . So do I Luke.




Anyone spot in the heat of battle Mr Ball's post   ....

"Unlucky Sergio"


WTF   ? !

Yeh when he got clattered and failed to win a free kick.

Apart from you unhealthy obsession with me, ehich youre on a warning for, whats your point?

You got anything to say about the football?

As usual - no.

Love this manager. So close to achieving what our previous manager couldn't in just a few months.

We still have Europe.  Just wait till he gets his players in, we will be a force to be reckoned with.

Was a master stoke playing Lucas at CB, we found a new home for him.

Well theres a few different things I could mention but its late and in going to bed so ill just concentrate on one.

Why was our big-money Summer transfer star striker signing on the bench? The guy who dug us out of trouble in Klopps early games here? The one who was scoring the spectacular overhead kicks? The proven 1-in-2 scorer who now seemingly doesnt know what to do on the pitch and has his confidence shattered.

Can we say he has been well handled? Have the rest of our strikers? Are we really getting the best out of our squad?

Plenty in the game seem to rate him and think hes unplayable on his day - supposedly including Drogba who apparently wanted Chelsea to buy him for big money.

But no, hes not producing the goods so "he's sh*te".

Again, in choosing between his philosophy or trying to get the best out of whatbwe had in the squad, Klopp has made a strategic error this season. Its been a weak league with all the major teams in transition (apart from Arsenal) - thats why Leicester are top. It will be different next year with Guardiola, Conte, Mourinho here all backed by big money. Three points this season will countbfor more than three points next season in terms of league position.

Handled in the right way i believe theres enough talent in the squad to have made top 4 this year.

Last year we missed outbon the final dus to a 94th minute headed goal from the eventual league champions. This year we had an easy draw and snuck through on penalties. Of wd had son today it would have been lucky - noone can say we deserved to.

In my books thats not a string argument that we have progressed - although - according to some on here its a "miracle".

Sorry but thats not good enough for LFC.

fitness hasn't been the major issue yesterday or all this season and last, it has been the overall lack of quality in the team/squad. Have i been disappointed that results haven't picked up since klopp came in of course i have. The point you and other people miss about his time at Dortmund was he took over a team in a similar state to us now and steadily overhauled the team and brought in a lot of quality, fitness and hard work can only go so far, as for the good enough for top 4 well sorry you are deluding yourself. Benteke could and should be  used more but his price tag shouldn't guarantee him a start. Bottom line is team isn't good enough ability wise.

i don't care what anyone says, I F***ing love Jürgen. Simple as that.

fitness hasn't been the major issue yesterday or all this season and last, it has been the overall lack of quality in the team/squad. Have i been disappointed that results haven't picked up since klopp came in of course i have. The point you and other people miss about his time at Dortmund was he took over a team in a similar state to us now and steadily overhauled the team and brought in a lot of quality, fitness and hard work can only go so far, as for the good enough for top 4 well sorry you are deluding yourself. Benteke could and should be  used more but his price tag shouldn't guarantee him a start. Bottom line is team isn't good enough ability wise.

So before the match "we can win because we scored 4 past them at their own ground"


And after the match " no chance we could win as we dont have enough quality players in the squad to beat them".

People cant have it both ways.

So before the match "we can win because we scored 4 past them at their own ground"


And after the match " no chance we could win as we dont have enough quality players in the squad to beat them".

People cant have it both ways.

Most people probably forgot most of their big guns Silva, Kompany a fully fit Aguero and a Yaya Toure up for it were present this time.

Unlike the shambles they resembled last time.

Similar things were said about Brendan when he first arrived mate. Surprising how views change and quotes begin to irritate more if things go tit's up.

Hopefully we won't see that under Klopp, but it doesn't mean it can't happen.

Don't want to piss on anyone's parade, but while I enjoy Klopp's quips and quotes as much as anyone, it's what he does with the team on the field that will eventually decide his standing at the club not how he handles the media or makes us laugh.

 

good point mate, agree about the last sentence

Yeh when he got clattered and failed to win a free kick.

Apart from you unhealthy obsession with me, ehich youre on a warning for, whats your point?

You got anything to say about the football?

As usual - no.

Rod and bait come to mind Mr B .

 


You fail to explain why on a Liverpool FC   forum you actually  posted in the match thread  "Unlucky Sergio"   which you admit and have now qualified as

when he got clattered and failed to win a free kick.

Sympathy for the opposition ?

I think the unhealthy obsession my friend lies with you  .... liking the sound of your own bullshit too much .



My footer of the week?
Can't be bothered  ... pal.

Clyne
Matip
Can
Firmino
Coutinho
Sturridge

There is our core, up to you Jürgen to add quality to make a really good 11.

Maybe one or two of the likes of Sakho,  Lovren, Origi, Grujic and Markovic can step up but we need 3-4 top additions.

The penalty takers was a weird one, unless Milner didn't fancy facing his old team or was chalked down as the fifth taker, I have no idea why Can and Lucas rolled up first.

Milner was 5th penalty taker, as Jürgen has already revealed.

Also, personally, I thought in ET Klopp should have put Benteke on for Sturridge Saint. He had a shocking game and by that time anyway looked dead on his feet.

We'd already used our 3 subs.

Rod and bait come to mind Mr B .

Gotcha. So you're fishing/trolling/looking to bicker despite being warned by the mods. Thanks for the admission.

Gotcha. So you're fishing/trolling/looking to bicker despite being warned by the mods. Thanks for the admission.

You've been doing exactly the same with the mods, like a schoolyard child crying for the teacher, grow up.

Most people probably forgot most of their big guns Silva, Kompany a fully fit Aguero and a Yaya Toure up for it were present this time.

Unlike the shambles they resembled last time.

Last time they were at home, Toure and Aguero were playing, as was their player of the season, De Bruyne, and instead of Caballero in nets they had Hart.

We had all the same players apart from Sakho in for Skrtel and Sturridge in for Lallana so I don't buy that we didn't have teh capabaility to woin this time given we thrashed them at the Etihad.

Last time they were at home, Toure and Aguero were playing, as was their player of the season, De Bruyne, and instead of Caballero in nets they had Hart.

We had all the same players apart from Sakho in for Skrtel and Sturridge in for Lallana so I don't buy that we didn't have teh capabaility to woin this time given we thrashed them at the Etihad.

It was Aguero's first game back and Toure was subbed at half time.

They also had the two clowns DeMichales and Mangala at the back who were targeted by our front 3 into mistakes.

You can have what you want but those are the facts Mr know it all........

It was Aguero's first game back and Toure was subbed at half time.

They also had the two clowns DeMichales and Mangala at the back who were targeted by our front 3 into mistakes.

You can have what you want but those are the facts Mr know it all........

They're only some of the facts. The main fact is that our best goalscorer was back to face their worst keeper in living memory.

If you think the players went onto the pitch thinking they had no chance against that City side I think you are deeply mistaken.

If you're saying we can't beat sides with better quality players than us, and we can't beat the sides below us in the table, then Jürgen hasn't really had the impact we were all hoping for has he?

They're only some of the facts. The main fact is that our best goalscorer was back to face their worst keeper in living memory.

If you think the players went onto the pitch thinking they had no chance against that City side I think you are deeply mistaken.

If you're saying we can't beat sides with better quality players than us, and we can't beat the sides below us in the table, then Jürgen hasn't really had the impact we were all hoping for has he?

That's not the point I originally made.

I pointed out that their spine of Kompany Toure (when he feels like it), Silva and Aguero in terms of their skill, power and leadership across the pitch is more than what we have.

You just need to look at our Captain and Vice Captain extremely limited players how are they going to inspire those around them.

Sometimes just have to face it if both teams are on there game City will beat us because of their players ability.

Can we keep the discussion about city here http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,20355.0.html please.

 

I don't think anyone's denying that better players give you an advantage.

But if we could put 4 goals past their "spine" Of Hart ,Mangala,Toure, De Bruyne and Aguero we had the capability to
beat a "spine " of Caballero, Kompany, Toure, Silva and Aguero yesterday - especially with Sturridge back.

Excusing Klopp by saying we "didn't have enough quality" to win is bollocks. We not only won but thrashed them with virtually the same team. If it wasn't for Hart we would have beaten them by seven goals.

EDIT: sorry reddebs just saw this.

Gotcha. So you're fishing/trolling/looking to bicker despite being warned by the mods. Thanks for the admission.

Youre like the mouthy school bully who hides behind the teacher when they come in to the playground.

Man up FFS.

You've been doing exactly the same with the mods, like a schoolyard child crying for the teacher, grow up.

Unbelievable !
Just seen your post.

Great minds and all that Luke !

 

I don't think anyone's denying that better players give you an advantage.

But if we could put 4 goals past their "spine" Of Hart ,Mangala,Toure, De Bruyne and Aguero we had the capability to
beat a "spine " of Caballero, Kompany, Toure, Silva and Aguero yesterday - especially with Sturridge back.

Excusing Klopp by saying we "didn't have enough quality" to win is bollocks. We not only won but thrashed them with virtually the same team. If it wasn't for Hart we would have beaten them by seven goals.

EDIT: sorry reddebs just saw this.

Your completely right how could our world class Milner, Moreno,Hendo, a make shift CB pairing, half fit Sturridge not have played them off the park.

You about 10 years old? No of course your not your just belligerent to the extreme.

They're only some of the facts. The main fact is that our best goalscorer was back to face their worst keeper in living memory.

Absolute F***ing rocking horse-sh*t.

Cabellero is a better keeper than David James ever was. That's a F***ing FACT!!

Your completely right how could our world class Milner, Moreno,Hendo, a make shift CB pairing, half fit Sturridge not have played them off the park.

You about 10 years old? No of course your not your just belligerent to the extreme.

As reddebs says - this is off topic in this thread.

I'll be happy to remind you how our "world-class" team without Sturridge was able to play them off the park 11 weeks ago in the relevant thread.