My reply was more relevant in here, hence the shift:
You know BBB this whole thing started when Jürgen came and people were wanting us to buy "World Class Players" (OMG sign REUS..Sign Lewandowski!!!) myself and others had noted in the past that Jürgen really didn't do "world class players"...that he preferred to buy younger players and develop them not buy "ready made"
So perhaps just perhaps there is a miscommunication of what exactly your talking about.....nobody ever said we would not spend money...what was said was the gaffer was probably not going to go out an buy £80 million pound + superstars.
At least that is all I meant...if you take it differently then not much I can do about it.
Keita
Gini
Salah
Solanke
Chillwell
Sessegnon
Mane
VVD
Pulisic
Brandt
Zielinski
Dahoud
All these players we have been linked with or have purchased have things in common, they are relatively just coming into they're best years, they have a high ceiling and with the right manger could kick on to be the next Reus/Lewandowski/Aubumeyang...but they are not "world class"
The fact that VVD might be £60 million, Salah £40 million or Keita £50 million are more indicative to the absolutely insane market prices due to TV deals then the manager changing his ideas or views.
If the manager goes out an buy's
Neymar
Lionel Messi
Paul Pogba
Antoine Griezmann
Luiz Suarez
Cristiano Ronaldo
Paulo Dybala
Eden Hazard
Gonzalo Higuain
Gareth Bale
Sergio Aguer
Mauro Icardi
Kevin de Bruyne
Alexis Sanchez
N'Golo Kante
Alvaro Morata
Toni Kroos
Then I will gladly state to the whole forum that I had the manager wrong from the start.
#BBBalwayskeeingitclassy
Exactly AZ, I remember the arguments were also about whether Jürgen would manage a team such as City/Chelsea where he could buy success and many people stated at the time, including myself, that he wouldn't entertain the idea, he'd much prefer to build a project and achieve success with coaching and development rather than buying the title. Unsurprisingly Jürgen has since come out and quite clearly stated "I prefer to do things a different way" and stated there's a strong possibility that he will finish his career only managing 3 clubs, proving those that held that stance right, but let's move on.
Also at the time, when people were arguing about whether we'd buy 'ready made' or 'world class' players, it was stated on numerous occasions that Jürgen would only pay what he deemed someone was worth, this has again also been reflected quite clearly by many quotes from Jürgen and of course our behaviour in the transfer market since Jürgen's arrival, but again, let's move on.
It was also suggested by the 'experts' (not self-proclaimed by the way) that Jürgen is not afraid to spend out on a few gems to add to the squad to compliment the team that he's building (exactly like he did at Dortmund) which appears to be about to be proven correct in this window. Those gems would always be within a budget, he wouldn't be buying Ronaldo/Messi he'd work within a budget (I remember well a limitation/restriction discussion
) and surprisingly the signing of Mane seemed to somehow prove this theory wrong. Like Mane was some 'world class' player who'd cost the earth, at a time when United are buying Pogba for £90m or whatever and Ibrahimovic for £300k a week we're supposedly splashing the cash on £35m Mane, the arguments are so weak it's pathetic.
Now that argument has been flipped, flopped, cut, chopped and lied about so much by the usual group ('them' apparently) that they're believing their own bullshit but I can honestly say that the best piece of advice I ever took on this forum was from Saint. Ignoring just one or two people on this board stops those pointless circular arguments and it's a shame when they're quoted that you unfortunately get to see they're still unable to get over being proven wrong and continue to carry all that baggage with them. (2 years old this, if not more)
The one that gives me a chuckle the most though is those that were branded 'Jürgen experts' were indeed the ones saying that Jürgen was the only manager capable of delivering number 19 under these owners and at the time those against it said it didn't matter who was manager, it wasn't possible unless you spend more than those around you. Money buys success, it was that simple, nothing else matters was the tune. Funny how those words seem to be drifting away now and the prediction of the 'experts' that only Jürgen could deliver number 19 under these owners seems to have a good chance of coming true.
Now whether he succeeds or doesn't his record against the top 7 proves to me that there is much more to this game than simply money. Sure it can buy success and with enough of it even the least talented managers can be shrouded by it but the best managers, those with real talent can show their worth. The difference they make can be felt and can be seen and to my mind we've got the best of the lot, that's not because I'm an expert it's because I believe in the way Jürgen Klopp manages a football club.