Let's get the simple things out of the way:
Klopp cannot be held accountable for the 25 years or so without the league title before he arrived, hanging that around his neck serves no purpose other than to exaggerate the negative.
Luke, You were the last person on this forum I would expect to miss quote someone, or imply that someone as said something that they have clearly not... Please show me anywhere in any of my post where I have said or implied that it was down to Jürgen why we have not won the title over the past 27 years...??
Secondly, give the man a fair handed appraisal of where he came from and where he has us now. Did he take over a team that had won cups the previous year? No, he took over a team that was languishing in 8th and had the most unbalanced first team we've fielded outside of Hodgson times. We didn't even have a left-footer in the team and our attack consisted of a big target man without having a winger in the team either, to say it was dysfunctional and directionless would be a compliment.
We did indeed
finish in 8th place before Klopp took charge, But the year before we
finished in 6th so you can hardly say that we were "languishing" in 8th.... And as for not "taking over a team that had won cups the previous year" Did not Antonio Conte do the same with a Chelsea team that finished 10th when we finished in 8th...
OK Conte bought straight away and Klopp decided to look at the team first, something which i admired...But what happened in the January window..? still no one
We didn't even have a left-footer in the team
Daniel Sturridge
Jürgen now has the style established, he now has us beating the better teams,
So not much has Changed then... We always did good against the better team... It was the so called leeer teams we always struggled against, and still do even under Klopp
back in the CL, For how long, and can we finish in the top four this season?... Short of a total collapse of two or more of City,Utd,Chelsea,Spurs and Arsenal I doubt it very much...
creating almost the most chances in the entire league and with star players wanting to get on board with this project. Who exactly would you choose to be doing better than that when you take into consideration our owners, nobody, that's who.
Yes... With Create chances,but how many do we put away...?? What was it 35 against Bournemouth and one goal...
Yes star players, and who did we buy...? The Ox...Sorry Keita for next season...Gus hidnik,Carlo Ancelotti are both capable managers...But and I stress
But I am not calling for klopp's head (Not at present anyway) I merely want him to do what we hired him to do,and ,or bring in people to do so (A defensive coach)
Klopp is our single best hope under the current ownership and is proving exactly why, sure there's a few bumps along the road but building a team up from where he got it is hardly likely to be plain sailing. Every manager gets signings wrong, he's surely afforded the odd one or two, when you look at the successes of Mane/Salah/Matip etc then the odd Grujic here and there are easily forgivable. Now he has Keita coming and I'm hoping VvD too in the near future, these are players that will improve us again, the trajectory is absolutely clear in every department, so just give the man your support and time because it's clear as day the media are jumping all over this defensive issue right now and we should not be giving them more fuel imo.
I do support Klopp, But some of the mistakes he has made are unfathomable... He knew the defense was a problem and when he knew that we was not going to put a bid in for VVD he should have had a second choice, Third choice even a forth choice target to go after instead what do we do? we go out and spend £40 m on a midfielder we did not need... If we had bought another CB and he did not work out it would have been one of those things, but not to even buy one...?? WTF
AS I said before
If he tries to address the problem in the pre-season window fine, if he again fails to address the problem and does not sign a centre back...I'll be calling for his head