He was not at his best before, Klopp has improved a lot since he has been here.
Just because we are doing well and Klopp is now very good, doesn't invalidate past opinions.
I can say, remember when Coutinho was liked , does that mean he was never liked and everyone was wrong or the situation changed?
You don't strike me as a very deep thinker, more a wheel and fire kind of guy.
I criticised Klopp a lot in the past, because our results were not upto standard, he would not drop Mignolet and kept defending him. Lovren was constantly first choice whilst out of form.. we were forced to watch Moreno as first choice LB and no activity in the transfer window... it was not ideal.
VVD now came in, Robertson, Mignolet dropped and guess what? results improved. Not only that, he is now making subs earlier! it is like something was holding him back from reaching his potential and personally I think he was too nice and now he is more assertive. Klopp has transformed into what we need now, it does not mean people including myself were wrong.
I honestly didn't want to give you the satisfaction of giving you a response, because frankly, I don't even read what you post 99% of the time, but oh well. You say nobody likes a "told you so"? Half your posts are you crawling up your own arse and pointing to so called predicitions you supposedly made in the past, you hypocrit.
You don't seem to get my point. I don't see what playing Moreno, Mignolet, not buying Van Dijk and making late substitutions have to do with being
tactically naive. I've been following Klopp and watching his teams play long before he arrived at Liverpool and I knew exactly what to expect. I've been calling for patience with him and several of our new players since his arrival. If I recall correctly, you are one of those who wanted him out for picking certain players. You change your opinion as you go along. One week it's this, the other week it's that. As long as it suits your agenda.
You say I'm not a deep thinker? Perhaps you're looking in the mirror, because all the points you're making we're all due to different circumstances, often not even by his own choice. Perhaps you should think a little bit deeper yourself and have a look at the circumstances in which he was forced to make certain decisions.
1. Picking Mignolet for so long. If you think Ward will ever be a Liverpool standard goal keeper, you're wrong. Even at Huddersfield he was distinctly average. Karius had just been ripped to shreds by both our own fans and the media after the Bournemouth and West-Ham games. Have you ever heard of
player management? Had he continued playing Karius, I doubt he'd be where he is today. Mignolet being given a new contract was all about protecting an asset and maintaining it's value. It was never Klopp's plan to continue with Mignolet, but
given the circumstances, he had no other choice. As soon as he saw the opportunity to drop him again for Karius, he did. I don't expect you to understand, though. You think it's just as easy as picking option A or option B without having any regard for the consequences and a player's state of mind. Has Klopp changed? Has he gotten 'better'? No, he's still the same as he was back then, his options and the circumstances have changed.
2. Picking Moreno over Robertson. Robertson only arrived this summer and he himself has stated multiple times that the intensity and tactics were something he struggled with early on in the season. Both Klopp and Robertson had come out and said it would take time for him to adapt to the team and the way we play football. Same with Chamberlain who only started playing regularly since January. Moreno had a good start to the season and deservedly was kept in the side. He got injured, Robertson came in and he has been doing very well since then. Again, has Klopp changed? No, he took his time with a new player and slowly introduced him into the starting eleven.
3. Van Dijk. Talks with van Dijk started well before the summer window started. Was it Klopp's fault that Van Dijk only arrived in January? Does Van Dijk's arrival suddenly change Klopp from being a medicore manager to a good manager? As soon as he arrived, he started playing him. He used the options he had to the best of his ability prior to Van Dijk's arrival.
4. Making substitutions earlier. What if, god forbid, he didn't make earlier substitutions during his first two seasons here because he thought his bench options were no good? Why do you think it's this season he starts making substitutions earlier? Is it perhaps because he has a bit more squad depth and more options to actually choose from? Might it again be the circumstances that allow him to make better decisions? One thing I'll give you, he struggled with the festive / January period last season. He adapted and changed his approach straight away this season, because you know, that's what world class managers do.
So in the space of 4 months, you have gone from "Klopp is a poor manager, I want him gone because he keeps picking Mignolet and can't play Van Dijk because the people who deal with transfers fu**ed up." to "He is a fantastic manager who can win the CL and might go down in history as one of our best managers ever". You just make it up as you go along. Klopp hasn't changed one bit. His options and the circumstances have changed. He's been worldclass since his Dortmund days, bringing them from almost having to stop as a football club to winning the Bundesliga and taking them to CL finals. Yes, we have to judge him on what he has done or will do at Liverpool, but he has done far better already than any other manager ever could have done and he will continue to make us better.
How's that for typing a certain amount of words? F**k me.
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