But none of that can be directly put down to Klopp or FSG...In amongst those figures I gave you was that teams like City,Arsenal, Chelsea were reaching finals on a regular basis, and with the exception of the Europa League finals( Probable due to the fact they have not qualified for it) we (LFC); under FSG are just as likely to reach one of those finals as team like Blackburn, Leeds Wolves and Plymouth Argyle... City,Arsenal,Utd and Chelsea Have the owners that are will to invest in the team and pay that little bit more for "Proven Quality", players that move the club forward, get regular domestic cup finals,are fighting out the top four every season, which in turn bring regular CL football, which makes it easier to attracted top talent... Just take Arsenal as a example... They have not spent as much as City of Chelsea on players, But have use there money and regular CL to attract top talent the like of Vieira, Bergkamp,Overmars,Petit Henry etc ,built and paid for a New Stadium, and can now use that money to pay for new talent... The Arsenal Way, and the City/Chelsea Way...
Yet FSG is neither doing one or the other... They instead are doing something more akin to the Mike Ashley Way. Instead for looking to bring back the glory days to our club they are instead bringing The Wonga Days to LFC. Interest free loans on a new stand, my ass, the interest is just paid as a service charge ... Yes here is £10-20 m pound to buy that new young talent what's his name...? Diego Lionel Ronaldo Suarez Pele, but as soon as we can get £60- £80 million for him we sale him on and re invest that £10-20 million on the next new young talent except FSG fails to do even that... They try to pay the player a pittance of a wage that insures team like Tottenham get old of them instead...while there interest laying just keep LFC in the Premier League and getting the BT/SKY money every season and spend as little as possible to do so...
You really are completely missing my point and I'm not sure why. I'm not interested in other teams, I don't care who they are or whether they reach a final or not. My point is, over the BR period of time we reached
Zero finals and were going backwards with our results and showed no signs of that changing. Then Klopp took over and reached
Two finals and now very close to being back in the Champions League. This is progression since he has taken over compared to the few years before it.
Really not sure how I can break it down for you anymore because like I say, I don't give a toss about other teams and what teams make finals.
Not sure why you are using the likes of Viera, Henry, Bergkamp etc to try and get a point across either because they are well over 10 years ago when the transfer market was completely different to how it is now. You think they'd have have gotten them players now as easily as they did back then? Not a chance in hell. In fact another point regarding them and why it's daft to include them in whatever point it is you are trying to make is that when Arsenal had them players we were getting to plenty of finals, we won 5 competitions in that 1 year as well as getting into the Champions League, finishing 2nd etc so if you are including them signings then why aren't you including the likes of Hyypia, Riise, McAllister etc. Comes to something when somebody brings up signings of another team from about 15 years ago when they were having no more success than us over them years just to try and point score against our current owners.
And yes, they may have paid for their stadium, and they have completely fleeced the fans to do so with having much higher ticket prices. FSG done that and there would be hell kicking off, look at the stunt they tried pulling with the tickets before. But because Arsenal have used other ways of paying for a stadium than their own money it's all fine?! FSG have their faults and are by no means top class owners but christ, you'd think they were as bad as H&G the way some people go on about them. They really can do no right where some are concerned.
Also what's this new talent they can now pay for? Because their fans are never happy with lack of money being spent! You say about Arsenal being able to now re-invest money into new players, that's exactly what FSG do with the player sales, invest it back into the new signings. The signings haven't been good enough but we have still paid out enough money on transfer fees to have a far stronger team than we have now so that's a recruitment issue to start with. We paid out around £60mill for Mane and Gini, 2 Premiership and International proven players, but still not good enough. People become far to fixated on Net spend as opposed the player. It's quality, not quantity that should be looked at because it's often a case that the cheaper players are the ones that deliver the most.
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