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      Brian78
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      The next 48 hours and our season.
      Aug 29, 2016 10:15:09 pm
      How important are the next 48 hours to our hopes for the season? Or put another way if we don't sign a proper left back and a defensive minded midfielder will we shoot ourselves in the foot going for top 4 or more?

      No need to abuse Moreno or Milner in the discussion just simply rate the importance you feel the next 48 hours has on our prospects
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      Re: the next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #1: Aug 29, 2016 10:21:03 pm
      No doubt the universe will end within the next 48 hours.

       I'm getting pissed while I can!
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      Reply #2: Aug 29, 2016 10:26:53 pm
      How important are the next 48 hours to our hopes for the season? Or put another way if we don't sign a proper left back and a defensive minded midfielder will we shoot ourselves in the foot going for top 4 or more?

      No need to abuse Moreno or Milner in the discussion just simply rate the importance you feel the next 48 hours has on our prospects

      We're signing no one mate.

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      Reply #3: Aug 29, 2016 10:32:38 pm
      I think it's important to have competition for places across all positions as injuries will rear their ugly head as the season progress's.
      Don't think we'll see any last minute signings if i'm honest which despite my trust in Jürgen could well come back and bite us on the arse as we sit motionless mid table as the pack disappear over the horizon.

      Then again,If we don't sign anyone in the next 48 and we smash Leicester 4-0 next week it will all be worth it.. won't it?
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      Reply #4: Aug 29, 2016 10:33:52 pm

      To be honest I wouldn't be too concerned about signing a midfielder but I think Milner and Moreno would cost us over the course of the season. I like Milner and actually think he could cover for left back but as against spurs could be caught out against the top attacking teams.

      I think most would agree its been the problem position for some time so baffling to not have it properly sorted out with the window closing in 2 days
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      Reply #5: Aug 29, 2016 10:40:21 pm
      Not very important according to the people that matter.

      Very important in my opinion, but here i am flogging a ps4 controller on Schpock in order to live until Friday so don't listen to me  :laugh:
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      Reply #6: Aug 29, 2016 10:43:25 pm
      I'd rather be told now we're signing no one, than wait to see what might happen at the last minute on deadline day again. We'll probably sell Sturridge knowing my luck!
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      Reply #7: Aug 29, 2016 10:43:36 pm
      I'm honestly not that bothered Bri.

      We might end up signing someone but most likely won't so I've kind of accepted that a while back now.

      I also think it's not solely down to FSG and Jürgen is a stubborn bigger and this is his way as well.

      Time will tell if we have enough this season but I have a feeling we will still surprise a few once we problem get up and running.
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      Reply #8: Aug 29, 2016 10:51:31 pm
      if we have an amount of money to spend then why wouldn't you improve the squad it would surely make Jurgens job easier with a stronger squad
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      Reply #9: Aug 30, 2016 12:10:05 am
      I'm pretty confident our incoming business is done. I hope that Klopp is right and I'm wrong (probably likely) and that either Milner or Moreno will be fine at LB for what Klopp wants, but my personal opinion is that we are going to drop points because we've done nothing to address LB other than rely on Jürgen to teach Milly or turn around brain dead bertie. I hope my opinion is horses**t (as it often is) and Moreno proves us all fools.
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      Reply #10: Aug 30, 2016 12:35:24 am
      if we have an amount of money to spend then why wouldn't you improve the squad it would surely make Jurgens job easier with a stronger squad

      Seems that Jürgen is the one who is choosing not to make his own job easier. He's already said the money is there and he signed the contract extension, he's the one who's comfortable with it.

      As far as any of us should be concerned, he's the one who takes the heat for our LB weakness if it continues to develop as an issue. Or likewise, I'm sure he'll take a lot of the credit if our season is successful. Although any true leader should always take the blame when things go wrong and give the credit to their team when things go right, and I'm sure that's what we'll see from him either way.

      I trust him completely as our manager though, but it seems like every single LFC fan has been in disagreement with his prioritization in this market (no incoming LB or DM), but I think we also all want to see him prove us entirely wrong on that.
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      Reply #11: Aug 30, 2016 01:17:59 am
      Not concerned at all.  I think Jürgen's gegenpress tactics are a little more difficult to implement than the rigid, structured, organized approach like Mourinho/Conte preach.  It's a bit like Guardiola's philosophy -- takes time to implement, but will reap the rewards when it takes hold.  Once Jürgen has really got the team playing at top level, we will start to win games consistently.  While I expect this season to be very competitive for the top few spots, I think a genuine title push is on the cards and top 4 is a certainty for us :)
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      Reply #12: Aug 30, 2016 08:22:54 am
      Not concerned either, "brain dead bertie" (like that) & Milly are efficient until Gomez gets match fit, I think Jürgen could convert him to LB,
      It's not his ideal position but we seen he can play there, his favoured spot is cb but I really can't see him displacing Matip, Lovren or even Klavan, and not forgetting Sakho,

      Just a thought,  also rumours of a bid for Fuchs at Leicester are circulating, might just be click bait but stranger things have happened before in last day madness,

      I think we're doing OK, our loss to Burnley was a blip, but it's all about reaction for me and we seen that against lowly Burton and again at Spuds,

      The break will do us good, should iron out any injury niggles and will re-focus minds,

      I too think we will surprise a few, once we get out of third gear and get up and running proper we're going to be very difficult to beat,
      I believe in our manager I believe in his philosophy, he may not make every decision go his way, he will make mistakes or misjudgements, but,  we are going in the right direction,  we are progressing,

      Ask yourself this, the players we now have looking forward,  are they better than what we had before and will they take us forward?
      Jürgen is building it's going to take a season or 3, but we are improving and bit by bit he's adding, he's putting in place the pieces that will make us very very good,  be patient ppl, it's going to take time,  be patient and...........

      TRUST YOUR MANAGER!!!!



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      Reply #13: Aug 30, 2016 08:42:16 am
      Won't get nothing more out of these owners. They paid out initially for the few players bought in, only because they knew were selling or loaning out just about everyone else to negate any spend. Tighter than a gnats chuff!
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      Reply #14: Aug 30, 2016 08:59:57 am
      We do have an obsession with the transfer window, dont we :)
      Its much too late in the window now to even approach the caliber of player we want. Last thing we need is another Chilwell type. Instead if JK wanted a Left back, he could have made firm interests in a few top options weeks ago. The fact that he hasnt, means he is still ok with our current options. Who knows he may put Klavan or Gomez or even Sakho there as cover until the right one becomes available.

      I also would like to see more of Grujic to see if he could be the option for DM. Otherwise the only incoming player in midfield i would like must be a DLPM with experience.

      Neither will materialise over the next 2 days, so perhaps we can revisit this thread again in January?
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      Reply #15: Aug 30, 2016 09:08:50 am
      Very important if we are serious about the season.

      We have a negative net spend and are loaning / selling most of our squad including regular starters/challengers to the first 11 without any thought for cover and injuries in my opinion.

      Milner is not the answer to our LB issue. He will do a job because hes a decent footballer but he will get found out and we will pay the price.

      FSG need to spend some money and strengthen the squad rather than trim it. If they don't we will be once again in top 10, the investors will move on to another PL club and there are plenty of attractive ones waiting and we will be speaking about the same things in 2 to 3 years time as we watch the likes of West Ham, Spurs, Everton etc move on up the food chain and leave us static where we are now.

      I trust Klopp although some of his latest decisions have baffled me, the owners I do not.
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      Reply #16: Aug 30, 2016 10:31:53 am
      Seems that Jürgen is the one who is choosing not to make his own job easier. He's already said the money is there and he signed the contract extension, he's the one who's comfortable with it.

      As far as any of us should be concerned, he's the one who takes the heat for our LB weakness if it continues to develop as an issue. Or likewise, I'm sure he'll take a lot of the credit if our season is successful. Although any true leader should always take the blame when things go wrong and give the credit to their team when things go right, and I'm sure that's what we'll see from him either way.

      I trust him completely as our manager though, but it seems like every single LFC fan has been in disagreement with his prioritization in this market (no incoming LB or DM), but I think we also all want to see him prove us entirely wrong on that.
      The problem for Jürgen is that Mourinho, Guardiola and Conte have addressed their problems and are steaming ahead. We are looking a little like ditherers . As was proved against Spurs we are still a fragile team . There is always a soft belly in the midfield , acres of space in the FB area's at any given time and a backup keeper who is nothing of the sort. All these obvious weakness's in our team could of been addressed but haven't.
      I lost count of the times i heard people watching the game say " Spurs are gona score , you can see it coming " and we all knew from what area. That fragility in the team is common knowledge amongst the rest of the league and will be exploited .
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      Reply #17: Aug 30, 2016 11:40:27 am
      With revenues way north of £300M Liverpool should be spending more on transfers than they receive - simple as that.  If you've won the league by twenty points the season before then maybe even the richest football clubs can post a transfer profit - but not when you finish 8th.

      Still very early days in the season and on the whole I've been encouraged, but 're-training' Milner for left back seems nothing short of a 'cost-cutting' decision. Has to better options out there.
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      Reply #18: Aug 30, 2016 11:44:03 am
      People peddling the old FSG line that its down to them we haven't bought a LB are seriously only kidding themselves.

      Klopp can buy players for every position other than LB, but FSG manage that position do they, yeah right!  That's Garbage.
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      Reply #19: Aug 30, 2016 11:58:25 am
      I trust him completely as our manager though, but it seems like every single LFC fan has been in disagreement with his prioritization in this market (no incoming LB or DM), but I think we also all want to see him prove us entirely wrong on that.

      That's as close to being 100% as I've seen mate.

      Personally I can't see us winning the League with what we have - I guess then it then all boils down what one deems passable/acceptable to be labeled a 'success'.

      I'll be disappointed, if we only emulate the failure of last season, for example, where others might not but each to their own. If Jürgen doesn't want to (or, in reality, can't) attract a top quality, before deadline, it will feel like an opportunity lost, given we actually do have the resources but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating come May.

      You are right tho' - if Jürgen wants to 'take the rap' so be it... he can have any praise too.
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      Reply #20: Aug 30, 2016 01:18:24 pm
      I'm sure that if the right player was available Jürgen would have pulled the trigger, No point in throwing money at the problem as we have seen in the past, Better to work with what you have and make do rather than throw tens of millions at it and be no better off.
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      Reply #21: Aug 30, 2016 01:32:43 pm
      Better to work with what you have and make do rather than throw tens of millions at it and be no better off.

      Is that what you reckon is happening then: there's no one better out there than our current left-back(s)?

      If you don't mind me asking - why do you believe Jürgen can polish Moreno and/or Milner into a gem, worthy of a top club but he couldn't do the same with any other left-back in the whole F***ing world?  :confused-smiley-013:

      We are fu**ed if that's true. :f_wah:
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      Reply #22: Aug 30, 2016 01:46:06 pm
      That's as close to being 100% as I've seen mate.

      Personally I can't see us winning the League with what we have - I guess then it then all boils down what one deems passable/acceptable to be labeled a 'success'.

      I'll be disappointed, if we only emulate the failure of last season, for example, where others might not but each to their own. If Jürgen doesn't want to (or, in reality, can't) attract a top quality, before deadline, it will feel like an opportunity lost, given we actually do have the resources but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating come May.

      You are right tho' - if Jürgen wants to 'take the rap' so be it... he can have any praise too.

      Yeah my feelings too mate. I expected a title challenge this season, but the squad looks just as unbalanced as it did last season. Really thought we might have added the quality we needed to make a real go of it this season.

      Not given up yet by any means, but I think we are too reliant on certain players not being injured or losing form and as we have seen many times sod's law seems to pick out those players for special attention.

      Definite feeling that we could have done more in this transfer window to address our problems and of a chance missed.

      I think we are relying on the Jürgen factor rather than the quality of our players a little too much for comfort.     
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      Reply #23: Aug 30, 2016 02:07:45 pm
      I think we are relying on the Jürgen factor rather than the quality of our players a little too much for comfort.
      That's the fear s@int and it's a logical fear at that. Put another way...

      Take that c**t Mourinho. I F***ing hate him and understand why you'll read on here (time and again btw) that he only wins and keeps winning because he buys the best players. Fair enough comment, I'd say but the weird thing is the same people who say that are invariably the same people who also say... You don't need top players to win the League.  :roll:

      That's where I differ, from them, I guess.

      If winning titles was merely down to a manager's talent then the same manager would be winning it year after year and all without signing any top players.

      * Why didn't Jürgen win the Bundesliga every year: was it because Bayern had better managers or better players?

      * Would Jürgen have won the Bundesliga every year if he had the same players available to him as Bayern?




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      Reply #24: Aug 30, 2016 02:41:08 pm
      I trust him completely as our manager though, but it seems like every single LFC fan has been in disagreement with his prioritization in this market (no incoming LB or DM), but I think we also all want to see him prove us entirely wrong on that.

      Yeah my feelings too mate. I expected a title challenge this season, but the squad looks just as unbalanced as it did last season. Really thought we might have added the quality we needed to make a real go of it this season.

      Not given up yet by any means, but I think we are too reliant on certain players not being injured or losing form and as we have seen many times sod's law seems to pick out those players for special attention.

      Definite feeling that we could have done more in this transfer window to address our problems and of a chance missed.

      I think we are relying on the Jürgen factor rather than the quality of our players a little too much for comfort.     

      That's the fear s@int and it's a logical fear at that. Put another way...

      Take that c**t Mourinho. I f**king hate him and understand why you'll read on here (time and again btw) that he only wins and keeps winning because he buys the best players. Fair enough comment, I'd say but the weird thing is the same people who say that are invariably the same people who also say... You don't need top players to win the League.  :roll:

      That's where I differ, from them, I guess.

      If winning titles was merely down to a manager's talent then the same manager would be winning it year after year and all without signing any top players.

      * Why didn't Jürgen win the Bundesliga every year: was it because Bayern had better managers or better players?

      * Would Jürgen have won the Bundesliga every year if he had the same players available to him as Bayern?


      Yep agree with pretty much all that.

      Where I differ slightly (s@int, from your point.......sorry  ;)) is that I DO think we're significantly stronger than last season. Strong enough to win the league?.............well, in fairness, that is a 'reach' as they say.

      I do wonder whether we will break the habit we've fored under FSG and do our recruitment in tranches........could Jürgen be looking to bed the first wave in fully......then move again in January?

      Then again I may be trying to find a 'coping' strategy already.........'tis the daydreamers way........ :o
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      Reply #25: Aug 30, 2016 03:12:18 pm
      That's the fear s@int and it's a logical fear at that. Put another way...

      Take that c**t Mourinho. I f**king hate him and understand why you'll read on here (time and again btw) that he only wins and keeps winning because he buys the best players. Fair enough comment, I'd say but the weird thing is the same people who say that are invariably the same people who also say... You don't need top players to win the League.  :roll:

      That's where I differ, from them, I guess.

      If winning titles was merely down to a manager's talent then the same manager would be winning it year after year and all without signing any top players.

      * Why didn't Jürgen win the Bundesliga every year: was it because Bayern had better managers or better players?

      * Would Jürgen have won the Bundesliga every year if he had the same players available to him as Bayern?

      It's a very fair argument you make. Where I would respectfully (no really  :) ) disagree is the part about winning the league "every year." Bayern is more dominant in Germany than any English team has been in large part because they keep buying the best players from all of their competitors (including some from Klopp's Dortmund after Dortmund surprised them.

      But isn't a more realistic standard/goal for us to be league and Cup challengers and European participants/challengers every year, with the obvious caveat of breaking through and winning regularly? Even if you look at just the Manchester teams re spending, the obvious truth is that at least one of them won't be winning the league "every year." And yet we can't deny that they's spent out the wazoo.

      I think our manager is building the squad and team to do that and when we get there, it is going to be glorious (and yes,I think we will content for top honors THIS season).

      And of course it's perfectly fine for loyal fans to question this or that personnel decision. It's what fans have done since Archimedes was beheaded for shouting from the balcony that Nero should start throwing darts left-handed.
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      Reply #26: Aug 30, 2016 03:16:30 pm
      Definitely feel as though the defensive left side is going to cost us points throughout the year. Had hoped for someone to come in but perhaps Moreno will learn his positioning or Milner will be adequate coverage. Its not as though we can just dream up a back and have him in the lineup. Not a lot of leftbacks good enough to come to our club and perform right away and most of them arent going to be transferred or if they are up for transfer their price is unrealistically inflated

      Just hoping in 9 months we have done enough to finish top 4. GO LIVERPOOL GO REDS YNWA
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      Reply #27: Aug 30, 2016 03:51:47 pm
      Where I differ slightly (s@int, from your point.......sorry  ) is that I DO think we're significantly stronger than last season. Strong enough to win the league?.............well, in fairness, that is a 'reach' as they say.

      I think the squad is stronger than last season mate, but still just as unbalanced (which was my point), while I also think the cover we have for Mane, Can, Karius and Clyne is not as strong as I would like. (maybe I'm being a little harsh on Mignolet tbh)

      I don't like the false nine we are playing (although I do like Firmino), but we still have no left winger, and I don't feel that a lot of our players are particularly suited to the system Jürgen is trying to impose.

      Sorry if it comes across as one big moan, because I don't think things are THAT bad, just that with a couple of judicious signings things could have been THAT much better. 
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      Reply #28: Aug 30, 2016 04:09:43 pm
      I think the squad is stronger than last season mate, but still just as unbalanced (which was my point), while I think the cover we have for Mane, Can, Karius and Clyne is not as strong as I would like. (maybe I'm being a little harsh on Mignolet tbh)

      I don't like the false nine we are playing (although I do like Firmino), but we still have no left winger, and I don't feel that a lot of our players are particularly suited to the system Jürgen is trying to impose.

      Sorry if it comes across as one big moan, because I don't think things are THAT bad, just that with a couple of judicious signings things could have been THAT much better. 

      Ah gotcha - my bad. Again I don't think we're as unbalanced as we were but still lopsided........

      Ideally I would have liked a true sitter in the middle - not an DM as such - plus a left back and another attacker.......

      Must admit I did hope (against FSG form) that we'd do something else when Benteke and Mario went but a) it doesn't look like it and b) he hasn't, frustratingly.....

      I think we'll be much improved as we are.......but agree it could have been better.

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      Reply #29: Aug 30, 2016 04:23:57 pm
      That's as close to being 100% as I've seen mate.

      Personally I can't see us winning the League with what we have - I guess then it then all boils down what one deems passable/acceptable to be labeled a 'success'.

      I'll be disappointed, if we only emulate the failure of last season, for example, where others might not but each to their own. If Jürgen doesn't want to (or, in reality, can't) attract a top quality, before deadline, it will feel like an opportunity lost, given we actually do have the resources but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating come May.

      You are right tho' - if Jürgen wants to 'take the rap' so be it... he can have any praise too.

      The real question is, what if that does happen? What if we suffer another mid-table finish, what then? If it becomes clear that Klopp still won't invest in top players do we change the manager again for someone who will? If it becomes clear FSG won't invest in top players, do they pack their bags and go? Do we leave both manager and owners in place and carry on as if nothing has happened in the hopes it pays off the following season? Nobody has stopped to think what happens next if this season ends in failure. He's taken a gamble of such proportions that there could be lasting repercussions for the club for years to come, and that opens up an even bigger question. Does he have the right to do that? This summer has left us with more questions than answers, unfortunately.
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      Reply #30: Aug 30, 2016 04:26:13 pm
      I think we need to sign one more attacking mid.... :laugh:
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      Reply #31: Aug 30, 2016 04:28:49 pm
      We need some quality in a couple of positions so all this let Jürgen do things on the cheap thing is purely for the owners financial gain and not for our success.
       
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      Reply #32: Aug 30, 2016 04:31:42 pm
      Nothing will happen IMO other than a few loan outgoings.

      Far too late now to completing any signings that you're not close to signing (and we're not close to anyone).

      Shame really, yet another disappointing window...2 very good signings but not addressed our issues.

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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #33: Aug 30, 2016 04:35:29 pm
      The real question is, what if that does happen? What if we suffer another mid-table finish, what then? If it becomes clear that Klopp still won't invest in top players do we change the manager again for someone who will? If it becomes clear FSG won't invest in top players, do they pack their bags and go? Do we leave both manager and owners in place and carry on as if nothing has happened in the hopes it pays off the following season? Nobody has stopped to think what happens next if this season ends in failure. He's taken a gamble of such proportions that there could be lasting repercussions for the club for years to come, and that opens up an even bigger question. Does he have the right to do that?

      I don't think we have any option but to go with Klopp even if we finish tits up this season. Just have to hope that if things do go wrong it is a case of always darkest before the dawn.

      I think it is pretty unthinkable to sack Klopp after a couple of seasons, so we just have to give him time and hope.

      Obviously another season of no CL would affect our future transfers, our standing and status and maybe even who we can keep at the club, so I do understand your concern, but I really don't at this point think there is any alternative.

      I think there is more chance that we change owners than managers.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #34: Aug 30, 2016 04:43:58 pm
      I expected a title challenge this season, but the squad looks just as unbalanced as it did last season.
      I'd noticed that too s@int; the left side, in particular seems a bit off-kilter, for example...  at centre half, we have Lovren, (Sakho), and Klavan who all prefer to play on the left of a pair so we are (were) too well off in that area but at left-back and a dedicated left 'wing' we lack proper quality and/or proper depth, in my opinion.

      On the right we have better quality (IMO) with Matip, Clyne and Mane but no depth - who do you start, in their stead, that are as effective in 'the system'; a system which is 'King' btw?

      So just a couple of injuries [Clyne and Mane] sees a drastically weakened team, in my opinion and that just can't be right after this length of time and money.

      Even after seven signings there appears to be not much balance and even less depth.  :-\

      Listen; I'm probably just on a downer (apparently it can happen with the brainfuck I had) and all will be fine - I certainly hope so.  :laugh:
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #35: Aug 30, 2016 04:47:25 pm
      Trouble is, without matching the spending of Utd, city or Chelsea, we're destined to struggle to make even CL qualification places, let alone win the league which is what we all want. We know the battle between Spurs, Arsenal and ourselves will be bitterly fought, but I'm inclined to think atm they have stronger squads than us.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #36: Aug 30, 2016 05:00:42 pm
      Then again I may be trying to find a 'coping' strategy
      A bottle of Bucky, Tramadol and a deep fried Mars Bar... coping strategy sorted.  8)
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #37: Aug 30, 2016 05:09:19 pm
      A bottle of Bucky, Tramadol and a deep fried Mars Bar... coping strategy sorted.  8)


      Hmm - all well and good, but what would my Saturday night treat be then?

      On serious note I grew up in the town that made Buckie great. I had a mate - let's call him Jim - who used to drink the neck out a bottle of Buckie (or El Dorado in times of want) and top it up with a bottle of Benylin.......

      He was a helluva drummer mind.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #38: Aug 30, 2016 05:11:12 pm
      I don't see the next 48 hours having much (if any effect) on our season. Klopp was determined to get his incoming targets in early, emphasising the importance of our pre season. In relation to any outgoings, if they're being let go then they're not going to get a game under Jürgen anyway.

      And as far as our weaker areas are concerned, Klopp has said from the beginning that he will do his work on the training ground. Whilst I am as anxious about certain areas as everyone, I am willing to trust in the manager and give him the time to implement his ideas and methods. Buying in someone is the obvious quick fix, but if we can be proven wrong and we're happy with how these positions turn out come May then all the better.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #39: Aug 30, 2016 05:19:09 pm
      Honestly don't see another player coming through the door , think it would have happened by now as leaving it late on into deadline day has been an absolute abortion of a tactic used by us in recent times , the price goes up and we fck off out of town well that's the usual scenario , I think ultimately the left back position could cost us dearly over the course of a season as every fck up usually costs us a goal .
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #40: Aug 30, 2016 06:16:29 pm
      Hmm - all well and good, but what would my Saturday night treat be then?

      On serious note I grew up in the town that made Buckie great. I had a mate - let's call him Jim - who used to drink the neck out a bottle of Buckie (or El Dorado in times of want) and top it up with a bottle of Benylin.......

      He was a helluva drummer mind.

      I thought that was Keith? Or was it John? Jim???
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #41: Aug 30, 2016 06:18:01 pm
      Have a sneaky feeling we might have one more before the window closes. A defender
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #42: Aug 30, 2016 07:35:51 pm
      I think we'll sign a left back. I simply cannot believe that we won't.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #43: Aug 30, 2016 07:46:09 pm
      I also think we'll be getting a LB/CB although possibly just on loan.

      BTW I think that as a team and squad we are vastly improved over last season and results will prove this. I still believe we'll get top4 and that the top 4 will be Man City, Chelsea, Manure and us.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #44: Aug 30, 2016 08:52:03 pm
      Got to be a LB and if not more importantly a DCM we have lucas only . Can is  not a DCM the sooner people see that the better in fact when he surges forward he is our best ACM
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #45: Aug 30, 2016 08:56:38 pm
      We desperately need a left back, everyone who follows the premiership can see that.

      I'll be very surprised if we sign one though.

      The thing I'm most surprised about though is the fact that we went for Chilwell, failed to get him and then just stopped looking because apparently Milner can play there (which I don't think anyone is convinced by)

      So if we tried to buy one and failed, what made Klopp stop looking?
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #46: Aug 30, 2016 09:03:54 pm
      I'd be shocked if we signed anybody now.

      We can moan about it all day tomorrow but we all know nothing is happening.

      Let's hope we have enough. I remain totally unconvinced but lets get on with the football.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #47: Aug 30, 2016 10:12:11 pm
      We have wasted another season

      We won't be close to top 4 this season as we have a pathetic spine

      Admit it or not folks but we need three defenders still and a dm

      Without That we are fukd
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #48: Aug 30, 2016 11:13:02 pm
      We have wasted another season

      We won't be close to top 4 this season as we have a pathetic spine

      Admit it or not folks but we need three defenders still and a dm

      Without That we are fukd

      Username does not validate.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #49: Aug 30, 2016 11:37:59 pm
      I get a feeling we will sign a LB and that LB will be Charlie Taylor of Leeds. No source just a hunch😆
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #50: Aug 31, 2016 04:57:35 am
      if we dont get a left back be prepare for 6th or 8th place again. Just keepin it real.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #51: Aug 31, 2016 07:37:00 am
      I'd noticed that too s@int; the left side, in particular seems a bit off-kilter, for example...  at centre half, we have Lovren, (Sakho), and Klavan who all prefer to play on the left of a pair so we are (were) too well off in that area but at left-back and a dedicated left 'wing' we lack proper quality and/or proper depth, in my opinion.

      On the right we have better quality (IMO) with Matip, Clyne and Mane but no depth - who do you start, in their stead, that are as effective in 'the system'; a system which is 'King' btw?

      So just a couple of injuries [Clyne and Mane] sees a drastically weakened team, in my opinion and that just can't be right after this length of time and money.

      Even after seven signings there appears to be not much balance and even less depth.  :-\

      Listen; I'm probably just on a downer (apparently it can happen with the brainfuck I had) and all will be fine - I certainly hope so.  :laugh:


      Exactly right BBB.

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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #52: Aug 31, 2016 10:30:50 am
      I get a feeling we will sign a LB and that LB will be Charlie Taylor of Leeds. No source just a hunch😆

      Not a bad call mate, or you could add George Friend at Boro or one time red Aaron Cresswell at West Ham (currently injured though) if you want a decent young LB that JK can 'train'.
      Not likely to happen though IMHO, as others have eloquently stated.  I really am befuddled by whatever thinking is going on at the club re LB not to mention DM position!! 
      Buying isn't the easy solution it might seem though. Transfers are very complicated pieces of business that are fraught with risks. Blah blah blah. We still need a soddin' left back. FFS.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #53: Aug 31, 2016 10:39:50 am
      if we dont get a left back be prepare for 6th or 8th place again. Just keepin it real.

      You honestly think a new LB would make a huge difference?

      Ideally we'd have signed one but I don't see it as the difference between a high finish and 6th-8th.
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #54: Aug 31, 2016 11:06:39 am
      We have wasted another season

      We won't be close to top 4 this season as we have a pathetic spine

      Admit it or not folks but we need three defenders still and a dm

      Without That we are fukd

      Which 3 defenders do we need then? Have you already forgotten about Matip and Klaven, who both seem to have slotted into the team immediately and made us look more solid defensively. The reason we are still conceding goals is not down tot he defence its due to us still having Migs in goals.
      BTW lighten up buddy, it really really isn't that bad. If you are this gloomy after getting 4 points from Arsenal and Spurs away then God help you for the rest of the season!
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #55: Aug 31, 2016 11:29:45 am
      Jose Enrique is free ;D

      That's our left back sorted...
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      Re: The next 48 hours and our season.
      Reply #56: Aug 31, 2016 05:20:57 pm
      Which 3 defenders do we need then? Have you already forgotten about Matip and Klaven, who both seem to have slotted into the team immediately and made us look more solid defensively. The reason we are still conceding goals is not down tot he defence its due to us still having Migs in goals.
      BTW lighten up buddy, it really really isn't that bad. If you are this gloomy after getting 4 points from Arsenal and Spurs away then God help you for the rest of the season!

      We need a left back urgently

      Not convinced by our new signings at all if I am honest, Matip does look decent

      A back up rb is also needed

      For Christ sake w shave Lucas as our fourth choice CB it seems

      Our cm is horrendous as well

      It has been a shocking end for a window

      It's like we started well but then refused to carry on, like it or not but we don't have a class team at all. This window has broken the faith

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