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      Naby Keita - RB Leipzig

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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1495: Jul 28, 2017 07:18:25 pm

      Come off it, not every failed signing is the owners fault, if a team refuses to sell then it's not their fault is it. It's no different to us refusing to let Coutinho go but don't see you complaining about that when it's exactly the same thing.

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      Reply #1496: Jul 28, 2017 07:26:58 pm
      Oh I agree, definitely, definitely.

      Question I have now is whose position in midfield were we actually looking to upgrade upon. If we assume that Coutinho stays and he gets the AM position that leaves the box-to-box player, who I'm guessing would be Lallana right now and then the DM who would be Henderson/Can.

      My view was that Keita could come in fill both those roles effectively, leaving us options and cover for injuries etc. Without having the luxury of Naby I feel we'll have to narrow our view in terms of versatility and go for someone more specialised.

      Suggestions would be fantastic.

      Exactly my feeling. People were debating where would be fit him in? What a great problem that would've been to have! 😥 There no such thing as having too many good players dogfighting for a place.

      So the owners won't sell, fair enough, still I see no reason why Van Dijk isn't wearing a Liverpool shirt right now, Southampton are a selling club.
      Who if anyone are we going after as a replacement now? Surely he wasn't the only target on that list!
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      Reply #1497: Jul 28, 2017 07:36:48 pm
      About time. This one looked dead in The water from the moment it started and as most people have pointed out, the time it took the club to finally make a bid, to the make a second bid and then waiting around thinking about a 3rd bid has been a joke. And the way it has been played out in the press makes it even more embarrassing. Fingers crossed some thought and effort has been going on behind the scenes regards another target. Like most of you I suspect it has not.

      I see Chelsea are potentially going to bring in Renato Sanches, is this not the sort of talent we should be looking to sign? I'm not sure what has happened at Bayern but the boy has the potential to be brilliant.

      The word potential again, thought we wanted to get past that stage
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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1498: Jul 28, 2017 07:44:33 pm
      Come off it, not every failed signing is the owners fault, if a team refuses to sell then it's not their fault is it. It's no different to us refusing to let Coutinho go but don't see you complaining about that when it's exactly the same thing.



      Mate when is the last time we had a really good window?

      All of our rivals are strengthening significantly.

      We have signed one top player and a couple of young squad players.

      This isn't enough to compete with our rivals over a full season.

      I'm not saying failing to sign Keita specifically is the owners fault but failing to sign enough quality we need most certainly is their fault.

      Also their media approach to players is embarrassing.

      All of our rivals signed their targets with minimal media speculation where our approach to signings is a media circus.

      Also FSG's fault.
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      Reply #1499: Jul 28, 2017 07:44:34 pm
      Gonna say for the third and the last time. We should make naby sign a pre Contract for next season.
      If he has a season like he did last year, then there is no chance we will get him. A lot of other teams will enter the race.

       sign some kind of precontract with him. Better to be safe then sorry.
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      Reply #1500: Jul 28, 2017 07:47:23 pm
      Gonna say for the third and the last time. We should make naby sign a pre Contract for next season.
      If he has a season like he did last year, then there is no chance we will get him. A lot of other teams will enter the race.

       sign some kind of precontract with him. Better to be safe then sorry.

      He can't sign a pre contract as his contract doesn't expire anytime soon
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      Reply #1501: Jul 28, 2017 07:50:05 pm
      He can't sign a pre contract as his contract doesn't expire anytime soon

      Doesn't he have 1 year left? Think it's van Dijk who signed  long term contract
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      Reply #1502: Jul 28, 2017 07:50:40 pm
      Mate when is the last time we had a really good window?

      All of our rivals are strengthening significantly.

      We have signed one top player and a couple of young squad players.

      This isn't enough to compete with our rivals over a full season.

      I'm not saying failing to sign Keita specifically is the owners fault but failing to sign enough quality we need most certainly is their fault.

      Also their media approach to players is embarrassing.

      All of our rivals signed their targets with minimal media speculation where our approach to signings is a media circus.

      Also FSG's fault.

      Spurs and arsenal haven't really strengthened significantly, ushited have signed two.
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      Reply #1503: Jul 28, 2017 07:52:17 pm
      Doesn't he have 1 year left? Think it's van Dijk who signed  long term contract

      Only been at liepzig for one season
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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1504: Jul 28, 2017 07:54:20 pm
      Only been at liepzig for one season

      Yep, until 2020. Thanks for correcting me. I could swear I read it somewhere.
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      Reply #1505: Jul 28, 2017 07:58:55 pm
      Spurs and arsenal haven't really strengthened significantly, ushited have signed two.

      Arsenal are Arsenal though they're only interested in CL qualification, Spurs will find out the hard way that If you don't strengthen, you stand still, which in the PL means go backwards..
      The Scum have signed the second top scorer in the Pl lady season, that's showing ambition.
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      Reply #1506: Jul 28, 2017 08:00:10 pm
      we have had 3 managers in the past 7 years....they can't all be at fault or all so stubborn.


      Personally I think it is the system they are operating in.

      Why AZed, Sir... that is so very, very, perceptive of you. By golly, you just may be on to something. 🤔

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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1507: Jul 28, 2017 08:01:45 pm
      That's it we won't be signing him this window or the next. We did the same with Dahoud then never went back in for him.
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      Reply #1508: Jul 28, 2017 08:03:03 pm
      I assume since we're "prepared to wait until next season" to sign him, we won't be looking at a replacement this season!
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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1509: Jul 28, 2017 08:07:43 pm
      We won't be sigh next season,
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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1510: Jul 28, 2017 08:07:56 pm
      I assume since we're "prepared to wait until next season" to sign him, we won't be looking at a replacement this season!

      I personally don't think we need a midfielder. I'm happy going into this season with our current midfielders, and perhaps next some summer, go for Keita!!!
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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1511: Jul 28, 2017 08:11:00 pm
      Mate when is the last time we had a really good window?

      All of our rivals are strengthening significantly.

      We have signed one top player and a couple of young squad players.

      This isn't enough to compete with our rivals over a full season.

      I'm not saying failing to sign Keita specifically is the owners fault but failing to sign enough quality we need most certainly is their fault.

      Also their media approach to players is embarrassing.

      All of our rivals signed their targets with minimal media speculation where our approach to signings is a media circus.

      Also FSG's fault.

      Well out of the so called top players we have gone for;

      Costa - turned us down to stay with Atletico for another season
      Sanchez - turned us down for London
      Gotze - rejected us to go back to Dortmund
      Brandt - didn't want to potentially be on the bench from time to time
      The fella who went to PSG - money
      VVD - Saints refusing
      Keita - RBL refusing

      It's not like we haven't been going after the players but one reason or another we are being rejected. Partly down to the owners? Probably. But all this blame that instantly gets thrown on their lap for us not signing players wears a bit thin. Yet when we sign someone like Mane, there isn't a mention of the owners. When you look at the market now, it was a steal to get him for less than 40mill.

      They aren't perfect owners and I won't hide the fact that public apologies are down right embarrassing but it's getting a bit over the top that everything is automatically the fault of FSG the second something doesn't work out.

      I'm as frustrated as the next guy that we won't be getting Keita because he looks boss but when you are having offers rejected, offers that smash our record signing, there is simply nothing you can do about it. It annoys the hell out of me the approach RBL are taking but then at the same time, we are doing the exact same with Coutinho. Only difference is that we won't lose him for near on 30mill less in a years time.
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      Reply #1512: Jul 28, 2017 08:16:31 pm
      Why AZed, Sir... that is so very, very, perceptive of you. By golly, you just may be on to something. 🤔

      🙉🙈🙊



      My issue with the system itself BBB is a bit different than those who think the whole thing is a ponzi/asset stripping venture similar to H&G.

      One is negligent..the other is perhaps naive big difference between the two.

      That being said I don't think Warner and Henry sit there and "Sign off on transfers".....they may say there are £xxx to spend ..so if they went to the club and said there is say £150 mil "go make it count" and it doesn't happen the the problem lies with Edwards and the manager.
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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1513: Jul 28, 2017 08:16:43 pm
      Well out of the so called top players we have gone for;

      Costa - turned us down to stay with Atletico for another season
      Sanchez - turned us down for London
      Gotze - rejected us to go back to Dortmund
      Brandt - didn't want to potentially be on the bench from time to time
      The fella who went to PSG - money
      VVD - Saints refusing
      Keita - RBL refusing

      It's not like we haven't been going after the players but one reason or another we are being rejected. Partly down to the owners? Probably. But all this blame that instantly gets thrown on their lap for us not signing players wears a bit thin. Yet when we sign someone like Mane, there isn't a mention of the owners. When you look at the market now, it was a steal to get him for less than 40mill.

      They aren't perfect owners and I won't hide the fact that public apologies are down right embarrassing but it's getting a bit over the top that everything is automatically the fault of FSG the second something doesn't work out.

      I'm as frustrated as the next guy that we won't be getting Keita because he looks boss but when you are having offers rejected, offers that smash our record signing, there is simply nothing you can do about it. It annoys the hell out of me the approach RBL are taking but then at the same time, we are doing the exact same with Coutinho. Only difference is that we won't lose him for near on 30mill less in a years time.

      Well one big difference is by all intents and purposes, Coutinho doesn't want to leave, and just signed a new long term (big money) deal with no release clause. Keita wants to leave, and has one year left on his deal with a supposed release clause (for German clubs only depending on who you believe).
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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1514: Jul 28, 2017 08:17:48 pm
      So if we don't get anyone more good players in what was point of get top 4
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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1515: Jul 28, 2017 08:18:43 pm
      Next season transfers we have 400 million ;D we spent F**k all these year
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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1516: Jul 28, 2017 08:23:33 pm
      Next season transfers we have 400 million ;D we spent f**k all these year

      We'll make a 200m bid for Messi but Barcelona will turn it down......"sorry, we tried".
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      Re: Naby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #1517: Jul 28, 2017 08:25:29 pm
      I wouldn't be surprised if we signed him whilst were in Germany.

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