Why not? City won the Premier League from Ederson, who as we all saw in the 4 games we played them last season, is not very good other than with his feet. Real has won 3 straight CL finals with Navas, who is also not in the top echelon of goalies. Leicester won the Premier League with Schmeichel, who no one would put as one of the best goalies out there unless they were talking about his father. We won the CL with Dudek, and reached 2 other finals under Klopp with Mignolet and neither loss was due to our goalie.
Klopp, as he has told us before when everyone was criticizing the back 4 (pre-VVD days), sees defense as a team effort, not just individual positions and i guess that is why he was fine using Weidenfeller all those years at Dortmund and why i think he'll stick with Karius, and rightfully so after the way the team performed defensively over the 2nd half of the season.
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Mig was at fault in the cup finals...
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Maybe I should rephrase it sorry, if we want to be league challengers we need a solid keeper
The Madrid and city keeper for me are a couple of levels better than karius based on performance
As I said before, I really want us to challenge and I will try to explain it what I feel and sorry if I come across patronising
Look at the top teams in the world that had consistent success in the last 15 years, that doesn’t include us btw the best we got was under Rafa (note Reina was a beast back then....see the importance of a top keeper )
You just can’t have a keeper costing you points, I am not saying karius may not have have a big improvement and be a good keeper but at the moment he is not
We have invested so much money
Our squad is now worth over 300 million with good players on their prime wanted by other teams
This is the TIME we do not take gambles, we have the money, we have the players, we have the manager, so on earth won’t we get a good keeper ? Navas and enderson are good keepers, remember I ain’t asking for a world beater all though I would love on but you need someone reliable on goal to be a consistent high level team
Look at degea- without him united would have been in the Europa a few more times
I would say a top keeper wins you 12-15 points per season and yes the figure is from my ass but I think it’s a good number
Our keepers - note I said keepers as both are not good enough and bang average. Actually cost is points, not won but cost us. I would bet a lot of money to say they cost us 9 points if not more last season
Let’s say we get a good keeper
Provided our scouts do a good job that’s 9 points is better off
I would expect a good keeper to win is 5 points
That’s 14 points...
My point is his
Our room for improvement is MASSIVE with a good keeper, we are in a position we should not take a risk, we have the resources to make our own destiny and not rely on the gods that our keeper will catch a football...
I firmly believe we are a good keeper away from fighting with city
If we keep karius and co then imo we will not fight for 1st but 2nd
Hope it makes sense buddy, the room for growth is huge with a keeper, even if we get a keeper that does what karius does in the good aspects which should be easy in this market and considering his level and we get one that cuts out both of our keepers mistakes
We have made a huge improvement
A top team can’t have a liability in goal, it’s that simple really and sadly we have two liabilities.
Note I am not attacking them as a person, I wish them well at another club at their level
Let’s take the leap, let’s not be dreamers, let’s take control and force our way to the top