VAR

Just l watched and listened to the recording of the var incident with arsenal, what a fckin joke it is , they clearly have people in charge who at best are inept at worst fckin corrupt , can be no other reason , he won’t do it but Webb should hang his head in shame at what can only be described as a total fckin disaster ,

100% a penalty.

100% a penalty.

100% not given = corrupt officials

100% not given = corrupt officials

Personally i don't get all the corrupt stuff, just inept people at the wheel.

How is this c**t allowed to Ref our Carabao Cup game 2nd leg, let alone any game we play, moving forward?

100% not given = corrupt officials

At this rate Billy Buster going to be asking for another point if Arsenal finish above you lot by 2 points. 😂

How is this c**t allowed to Ref our Carabao Cup game 2nd leg, let alone any game we play, moving forward?

Compliments of the FA mate - F***ing Arseholes!

Personally i don't get all the corrupt stuff, just inept people at the wheel.

Any system that has affected components in its operating procedure has been corrupted, too many affected decisions by FA officials certainly qualify that definition.

As stated previously VAR is foolproof but the FA have given the fools officiating the system the power to overrule filmed evidence.

Ask yourselves this,….Why is such a system…which works perfectly well in other sporting fields…so easy to F**k up…? Why has it got so many contentious issues when it’s designed to eradicate those certain issues…ie: having to draw lines to determine offside or not…those contentious “clear & obvious “ errors, when they are clearly not “clear & obvious” ??

It’s a simple sport, complicated by idiots!!

All this confusion and ignorance of the very essence of the sport which if I’m not mistaken is to Entertain those who pay for said entertainment, yet are being denied what they pay for, the whole point of the sport of football is to score more goals then the team you’re playing against, but here we are, being denied the very essence of the sport, does that make sense or have I finally lost my f***in marbles ??

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it a fact we play football with our feet, is that correct ?  sometimes yanno’s you may have to use your head too, in more ways than one, and if you’re employed to prevent goals being scored you can actually use your hands !!

Would it not be far easier to give the benefit of doubt to the attacking team/forward if indeed the assistant Ref deems them to be level ? No elbows protruding half a millimetre more than the defender, No hair on the attackers kneecap longer than that of the defenders eyelashes, If yer Level yer ON !!

I could go on and on , and on again, but most will get my gist here,….


All these issues aren’t really issues, unless of course you add the PGMOL, the VAR ops are simply implementing the system, the contentiousness is a created by the influences of the PGMOL, it’s that simple, …

…F**k knows why the PGMOL has to stick their oar in, they do so to look after themselves and cover each other’s ineptitude, again there’s a simple solution, remove the PGMOL from the VAR box altogether, and replace them with a totally independent body, or, insert those who have actually played the sport at a very high standard ie: former players/managers who actually know what they are talking about!!

The PGMOL, are in essence arbiters, and NOT Judge Jury & Executioner….see, Simples isn’t it Howard !!



YNWA

How is this c**t allowed to Ref our Carabao Cup game 2nd leg, let alone any game we play, moving forward?

Incompetent or corrupt you choose, he is useless

All refs will be able to officiate any match

You made a huge deal of it and created some boring topic to track the success of it.

Then you shift the goalposts, to it being about the low percentage of errors that you track on a weekly basis.

Now it’s about ‘delivering justice’. 

More clear and obvious errors around here.

I would worry if people like you were in charge of matches, where blatant errors would still be allowed to go unchecked, let alone corrected.

There were 100+ injustices on the pitch corrected by VAR last season, an average of 3 per week, some of them in our favour, such as getting the penalty at Bournemouth. That's 100+ possible controversies avoided. That proves the system works.

Of course, (this is quietly forgotten about from the other week) the penalty still has to be scored. But as it wasn't, we lost the game.

I think it's a combination of all 3 things you highlight.
The rules are frequently reinterpreted by the football authorities so refs, players, coaches and fans are unsure about what qualities as handball, a yellow card, etc.
The VAR system is chaotic and badly designed.
Also, the people employed as refs and officials often appear to fall short of the standards expected when premier league football is a multi-billion pound industry. All people are fallible and officials will always make errors but the current VAR system does not appear able to reduce the errors to an acceptable level.

I'm still a supporter of VAR in principle but it's hard to defend it currently.

For our international fans who watch other leagues in Europe or around the world- is VAR as hated in other countries? Do other leagues do it well or is as problematic as the Premier league VAR system? I don't watch much football outside LFC and premier league so I don't have much to compare it to. I thought VAR at Euros and World cup was ok.

The way the law is written means, basically any handball by a defender in the box, no matter how ridiculous, is a possible penalty. Doesn't mean they'll always be given, but if they are, you can't argue it's not handball if the ball strikes an arm, and it won't be overturned.

As regards elsewhere, fans of clubs don't like VAR until they need it to bail them out. It's no different to fans in the EPL. But it doesn't matter whether you like it or hate it. Referees on a pitch only have two eyes, the VAR has 20+ angles available. It can be improved but it's not going away.

Personally i don't get all the corrupt stuff, just inept people at the wheel.

If it was ineptitude then the bad decisions would be random, they are not they are targeted

More clear and obvious errors around here.

I would worry if people like you were in charge of matches, where blatant errors would still be allowed to go unchecked, let alone corrected.

There were 100+ injustices on the pitch corrected by VAR last season, an average of 3 per week, some of them in our favour, such as getting the penalty at Bournemouth. That's 100+ possible controversies avoided. That proves the system works.

Of course, (this is quietly forgotten about from the other week) the penalty still has to be scored. But as it wasn't, we lost the game.

The way the law is written means, basically any handball by a defender in the box, no matter how ridiculous, is a possible penalty. Doesn't mean they'll always be given, but if they are, you can't argue it's not handball if the ball strikes an arm, and it won't be overturned.

As regards elsewhere, fans of clubs don't like VAR until they need it to bail them out. It's no different to fans in the EPL. But it doesn't matter whether you like it or hate it. Referees on a pitch only have two eyes, the VAR has 20+ angles available. It can be improved but it's not going away.

20 +angles and still fckin it up every week , it’s drastically flawed and it’s fckin us right over happy about them great decisions are you ,

The way the law is written means, basically any handball by a defender in the box, no matter how ridiculous, is a possible penalty. Doesn't mean they'll always be given, but if they are, you can't argue it's not handball if the ball strikes an arm, and it won't be overturned.

What do you mean? This is VAR, there is video evidence, isn't the whole point 'this is the rule, this is the outcome'... but here you are admitting that VAR is useless in a handball situation, as you're pretty much saying 'sometimes it's a pen sometimes it's not' as if it isn't VAR's job to make sure that doesn't happen, and the correct decision is given EVERY time...

If it was ineptitude then the bad decisions would be random, they are not they are targeted

Bad decisions are happening right across the board Tez not joust Liverpool.

Bad decisions are happening right across the board Tez not joust Liverpool.

We’re getting more than our share of bad decisions

We’re getting more than our share of bad decisions

This year yes you are but you did well with them last year. Swings in rounabouts.

Bad decisions are happening right across the board Tez not joust Liverpool.

Can't argue with that one.

Var + Refs = utter shitshow. And it's been like that all season.

Bad decisions are happening right across the board Tez not joust Liverpool.

Yep but I personally only give a fck about one team and that team is getting fckin shafted good and proper , and the fact that their not tight calls but monumental fcker mistakes make it worse , very tight calls you can get over bit quick but not the kind of errors of judgement these cu*ts have been making .

Yep but I personally only give a fck about one team and that team is getting fckin shafted good and proper , and the fact that their not tight calls but monumental fcker mistakes make it worse , very tight calls you can get over bit quick but not the kind of errors of judgement these cu*ts have been making .

Yeah you’ve had two very bad ones Andy, can see you frustration understandably.

Just l watched and listened to the recording of the var incident with arsenal, what a fckin joke it is , they clearly have people in charge who at best are inept at worst fckin corrupt , can be no other reason , he won’t do it but Webb should hang his head in shame at what can only be described as a total fckin disaster ,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6L_9Z1qmC8

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6L_9Z1qmC8

Nothing but a sanctimonious pr**k was a fck shithouse of a ref , and it’s Little wonder var is in such a shocking state with this c**t as its figurehead

Nothing but a sanctimonious pr**k was a fck shithouse of a ref , and it’s Little wonder var is in such a shocking state with this c**t as its figurehead

Take it your not fond of him