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      Reply #2553: May 22, 2023 08:32:57 am

      Never heard of him. but googled him. I think its maybe the lad they were talking about on LFCTV pressbox last week ?
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      Reply #2554: May 22, 2023 09:24:05 am
      Ugarte Got man of the match last night in Lisbon Derby

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      Reply #2555: May 22, 2023 10:26:36 am
      Given the figures quoted LFC could sign Mac Allister and Ugarte for midfield and still have 20 - 30 million left over for a defender.
      All for the price that's being quoted for Bellingham.
      I'd be surprised if the club wasn't looking at Ugarte as well as Mac Allister.

      No idea what Ugarte is like but there is certainly going to be a second mid coming in - was expecting it to be Mount but guess depends on his cost
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      Reply #2556: May 22, 2023 10:48:56 am
      No idea what Ugarte is like but there is certainly going to be a second mid coming in - was expecting it to be Mount but guess depends on his cost

      I suppose it depends on what Klopp is looking for.
      Mac Allister would be playing where Jones/Keita play.
      Ugarte would put much needed competition in with Fabinho.
      Given the age on Henderson and Fabinho, Ugarte (plays as a 6) would be a good signing for both now and the future.

      Firmino, Ox, Keita, Milner confirmed as gone so Mac Allister and Ugarte would fill that midfield 3 loss, with Bajcetic taking on playing minutes also.
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      Reply #2557: May 22, 2023 10:56:06 am
      Count Mount out, Arsenal in him CL+London and frankly I don't care if we miss out on him.
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      Reply #2558: May 22, 2023 10:58:43 am
      Frustrating we not gonna challenge Arsenal for Rice. Homegrown and he's exactly what we need.
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      Reply #2559: May 22, 2023 10:58:52 am
      Count Mount out, Arsenal in him CL+London and frankly I don't care if we miss out on him.

      Glad you think like that as Mount would improve your squad, too many underrate him.
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      Reply #2560: May 22, 2023 11:00:25 am
      KLOPP was pretty adamant the other day that both backup goalies wont be leaving.

      So thats a good thing.

      Although I do wonder if a big offer comes in for kelher would it temp him and the club ?
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      Reply #2561: May 22, 2023 11:06:06 am
      KLOPP was pretty adamant the other day that both backup goalies wont be leaving.

      So thats a good thing.

      Although I do wonder if a big offer comes in for kelher would it temp him and the club ?

      Not sure why we need both tbh especially with Harvey Davies as well . Can't see Kelleher being happy with the lack of game time if he has any ambitions he should be playing more regularly
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      Reply #2562: May 22, 2023 11:08:56 am
      Glad you think like that as Mount would improve your squad, too many underrate him.

      I don't think he's the player that Klopp needs.
      He won't play the role as LM or 8.
      He's more like a 10, which Klopp rarely uses, and if he does it'll be Gakpo.
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      Reply #2563: May 22, 2023 11:18:49 am
      Glad you think like that as Mount would improve your squad, too many underrate him.

      If we are getting Mac Allister we don't need him since he plays a similar role. We need a destroyer type DM like: Rice, Ugarte, Caicedo.
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      Reply #2564: May 22, 2023 11:21:06 am
      Not sure why we need both tbh especially with Harvey Davies as well . Can't see Kelleher being happy with the lack of game time if he has any ambitions he should be playing more regularly

      Agreed. But klopp was pretty adamant, he was getting annoyed with the journos asking him about kellher leaving.
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      Reply #2565: May 22, 2023 11:42:28 am
      Frustrating we not gonna challenge Arsenal for Rice. Homegrown and he's exactly what we need.

      But going to cost a lot of money - there will be others around at half the price
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      Reply #2566: May 22, 2023 11:43:34 am
      If we are getting Mac Allister we don't need him since he plays a similar role. We need a destroyer type DM like: Rice, Ugarte, Caicedo.

      All though plenty of talk you getting Mac Allister the price tag might still be a problem, remains to be seen.
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      Reply #2567: May 22, 2023 11:58:02 am
      All though plenty of talk you getting Mac Allister the price tag might still be a problem, remains to be seen.

      Mac Allister is arguably the cheapest option available in the positions that Liverpool need players.
      (And would still leave space for Bellingham next summer) I know. I know.
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      Reply #2568: May 22, 2023 12:10:58 pm
      Goalkeepers:
      Alisson
      Kelleher*
      Adrian

      Defenders:
      Van Dijk
      Konate
      Matip
      Gomez*
      Phillips*
      Alexander-Arnold*
      Robertson
      Tsimikas

      Midfielders:
      Fabinho
      Thiago
      Henderson*
      Jones
      Keita
      Milner
      Oxlade-Chamberlain*
      Arthur

      Forwards:
      Salah
      Gakpo
      Jota
      Diaz
      Nunez
      Firmino

      U21s: Elliott, Carvalho, Bajcetic, Ramsay, Gordon. (Will count as home grown)

      Base squad of 25 players. At least 5 leaving.
      5 U21 players that will most likely get minutes and eventually count as home grown.
      I think people are worrying too much about whether the club needs to sign a home grown player.
      Even signing 2 midfielders and a CB this summer the squad will be leaner and younger than ever
      with 23 senior players and the 5 U21 players giving a squad of 28.

      * - home grown
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      Re: Scouting talk
      Reply #2569: May 22, 2023 01:45:58 pm
      KLOPP was pretty adamant the other day that both backup goalies wont be leaving.

      So thats a good thing.

      Although I do wonder if a big offer comes in for kelher would it temp him and the club ?

      Kelleher will probably get a lot of cup games next season; maybe Klopp has promised him the Europa league games as well. I'd prefer to keep him another season at least.
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      Reply #2570: May 22, 2023 01:48:25 pm
      Kelleher will probably get a lot of cup games next season; maybe Klopp has promised him the Europa league games as well. I'd prefer to keep him another season at least.

      Doubtful, because that basically means Alison only plays league games.

      Hopefully Kelleher stays another year, but he does deserve to be playing regularly somewhere else.
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      Reply #2571: May 22, 2023 02:17:54 pm
      Mac Allister is arguably the cheapest option available in the positions that Liverpool need players.
      (And would still leave space for Bellingham next summer) I know. I know.

      Cheaper than Mount? I’d be flabbergasted mate. 😱
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      Reply #2572: May 22, 2023 02:45:18 pm
      Cheaper than Mount? I’d be flabbergasted mate. 😱

      I did say "in the positions that Liverpool need players."
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      Reply #2573: May 22, 2023 02:45:34 pm
      Is Lavia homegrown?

      Could see us interested in him, might make sense to make one of our midfield targets a bit younger so we don’t end up in the mess we are in right now again in a few years time.
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      Reply #2574: May 22, 2023 03:04:41 pm
      I did say "in the positions that Liverpool need players."

      See what you mean. 😂
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      Reply #2575: May 22, 2023 03:51:34 pm
      Kelleher will probably get a lot of cup games next season; maybe Klopp has promised him the Europa league games as well. I'd prefer to keep him another season at least.

      he would defo be the domestic cup goalie.

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