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      Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad

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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #414: Sep 02, 2023 08:02:03 pm
      Would that be all them millionaires who wonā€™t spent a penny of their own on something they own , them millionaires you mean , the ones we are told are not cash rich , then ones you mean .

      So is the money earned from players sales not theirs then ? If people think ā€œhypotheticalā€ they would keep that money then itā€™s their money - so they are spending ā€œtheirā€ money on the club
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #415: Sep 02, 2023 08:05:14 pm
      Evidence clearly shows that the money the club earns from player sales goes towards players coming in - how often have people complained and cried about sell to buy and now all of a sudden the money wonā€™t go towards buying players

      We sold Coutinho for Ā£140mil - that money could have gone to paying for stands etc etc - so why didnā€™t it ?

      Why would the club suddenly change how they work ?


      Dosent matter a jot you canā€™t state it as fact , you know no more than anyone else on here , thatā€™s like saying all the money the club earns goes on the team but it dosent .
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #416: Sep 02, 2023 08:07:20 pm
      So is the money earned from players sales not theirs then ? If people think ā€œhypotheticalā€ they would keep that money then itā€™s their money - so they are spending ā€œtheirā€ money on the club

      You and you little mind games you know exactly what I meant but you got to stick a little twist on it for it to sound good to your ears , crack on fella this your little love in for the night is it .
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #417: Sep 02, 2023 08:11:25 pm
      Dosent matter a jot you canā€™t state it as fact , you know no more than anyone else on here , thatā€™s like saying all the money the club earns goes on the team but it dosent .

      All the money the club earns goes on the club 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø

      Itā€™s self sufficient-

      Thatā€™s the model

      The narrative that the owners wouldnā€™t allow all transfer income to be spent is based on zero substance

      Itā€™s factually correct to state that the owners havenā€™t taken any transfer income and put into their pockets , itā€™s factually correct to state that any transfer income has been reinvested by the club. There is clear evidence for people to state that any money earned if we sold Salah would be reinvested.


      There is zero evidence to suggest even hypothetical that they wouldnā€™t so it has zero base beyond negative bias
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #418: Sep 02, 2023 08:14:18 pm
      You have no way of accurately saying where that money would go , unless your on the board that is , it could go to paying down the loan they lent the club out of the goodness of their hearts , not saying it will but hypothetically it could ,

      Even if theyā€™re on the board ( which is very doubtful ) itā€™s still only one vote.
      Anyway defo last post on this matter as we will all just continue to go around the houses. Time will tell which is probably next summer.

      Iā€™ll be back! In a year. 😂
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #419: Sep 02, 2023 08:14:41 pm
      All the money the club earns goes on the club 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø

      Itā€™s self sufficient-

      Thatā€™s the model

      The narrative that the owners wouldnā€™t allow all transfer income to be spent is based on zero substance

      Itā€™s factually correct to state that the owners havenā€™t taken any transfer income and put into their pockets , itā€™s factually correct to state that any transfer income has been reinvested by the club. There is clear evidence for people to state that any money earned if we sold Salah would be reinvested.


      There is zero evidence to suggest even hypothetical that they wouldnā€™t so it has zero base beyond negative bias

      You do know just because you say itā€™s fact over and over , dosent mean it is , you could be right , but then again you could be wrong ,
      Oh Fck scrap that last bit you never are .
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #420: Sep 02, 2023 08:18:40 pm
      You do know just because you say itā€™s fact over and over , dosent mean it is , you could be right , but then again you could be wrong ,
      Oh Fck scrap that last bit you never are .

      Which fact is wrong 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø

      Have they not allowed all the money from transfers to be spent on players ?

      Christ I have lost count the amount of times people have stated that Coutinho being sold was the only reason we got Allison and VVD -

      At least letā€™s see some evidence during the period under the current owners where money earned from selling players wasnā€™t allowed to be used on bringing in other players.


      Is there anything that suggests that will happen
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #421: Sep 02, 2023 08:31:19 pm
      Which fact is wrong 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø

      Have they not allowed all the money from transfers to be spent on players ?

      Christ I have lost count the amount of times people have stated that Coutinho being sold was the only reason we got Allison and VVD -

      At least letā€™s see some evidence during the period under the current owners where money earned from selling players wasnā€™t allowed to be used on bringing in other players.


      Is there anything that suggests that will happen

      Fck go untangle your nickers ffs all I said was you canā€™t state it as fact end of and you canā€™t because you donā€™t know .
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #422: Sep 02, 2023 08:45:58 pm
      do you own f***in homework ffs another FSG devotee to the defence of billionaires.
      2017 NET SPEND - Ā£21.85mil
      2018 NET SPEND -Ā£17.80mil
      2019 NET SPEND -Ā£40.10 mil

      Where the heck do you get your figures from

      16/17 - Net spend Ā£5mil profit

      https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/liverpool-fc/transfers/verein/31/plus/?saison_id=2016&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=

      17/18 - Net spend Ā£10mil profit

      https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/liverpool-fc/transfers/verein/31/plus/?saison_id=2017&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=

      18/19 - net spend Ā£140mil

      https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/liverpool-fc/transfers/verein/31/plus/?saison_id=2018&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #423: Sep 02, 2023 10:22:55 pm
      Thereā€™s obviously a number where selling a 31 year old becomes unavoidable, no matter how good.

      I wouldnā€™t sell now but if it can be positioned for Jan so we can sell then Iā€™d do it no questions asked IF in a hypothetical world JĆ¼rgen was able to get the players he wants in.

      When Torres went that was a mint and we got Suarez in who was to my mind the most entertaining player Iā€™ve ever seen.

      It can be done but to get the signings wrong is a huge waste, and the real question is if we can have faith in the planning of using the money.
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #424: Sep 02, 2023 10:37:52 pm
      When Torres went that was a mint and we got Suarez in who was to my mind the most entertaining player Iā€™ve ever seen.


      When Torres went his form wasn't good, he was on the downslope, thought we got got really good money for him at the time. 
      Mo's form hasn't slipped. Leading scorer for 6 seasons. Still looks hungry.

      Your right though, the question is can we replace him properly.
      One good thing is that it's likely big money will be there for him again next summer - and so we have time to plan for his exit - and we have shown that, given time, we are generally good at replacing well.

      Will Mo want to go though at the end of this season. Who knows.
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #425: Sep 02, 2023 10:39:11 pm
      Thereā€™s obviously a number where selling a 31 year old becomes unavoidable, no matter how good.

      I wouldnā€™t sell now but if it can be positioned for Jan so we can sell then Iā€™d do it no questions asked IF in a hypothetical world JĆ¼rgen was able to get the players he wants in.

      When Torres went that was a mint and we got Suarez in who was to my mind the most entertaining player Iā€™ve ever seen.

      It can be done but to get the signings wrong is a huge waste, and the real question is if we can have faith in the planning of using the money.

      As Torres was different from Luis the same will apply we can't clone him . As you say the money needs to be reinvested wisely . Yes we may lose out on the LW but massively strengthen elsewhere . Either way whether it Jan or July I think it will.happen and the wheels.will be in motion . If we were ran by a never ending cash cow I would say keep but the benefits 150m.can have to the overall functioning of the team outweighs it for.me. but recruitment the key just as it was when we purchased him in the first place
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #426: Sep 02, 2023 10:40:31 pm

      Christ I have lost count the amount of times people have stated that Coutinho being sold was the only reason we got Allison and VVD -


      Sounds like your agreeing with what most people have said about that.
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #427: Sep 03, 2023 11:54:35 am
      do you own f***in homework ffs another FSG devotee to the defence of billionaires.
      2017 NET SPEND - Ā£21.85mil
      2018 NET SPEND -Ā£17.80mil
      2019 NET SPEND -Ā£40.10 mil

      And that's where the arguments starts from, people doing their own little mathematics, getting them wrong and then accuse fans of defending the owners.

      A boring F***ing argument that has been done to F***ing death and STILL there is no conclusive proof they are like G & H and taking money put of the club.

      Whatever they make off the back of us is down to their investment return.
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #428: Sep 03, 2023 11:59:23 am
      Would that be all them millionaires who wonā€™t spent a penny of their own on something they own , them millionaires you mean , the ones we are told are not cash rich , then ones you mean .

      They're not benevolent benefactors.

      Let's get that F***ing fact straight. Most businessmen in football are out to make money.

      But apart from what they earn from their investment, they're not siphoning off money like the other yank owners we had.
      « Last Edit: Sep 03, 2023 05:13:34 pm by HUYTON RED »
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #429: Sep 03, 2023 06:07:40 pm
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #430: Sep 03, 2023 07:00:24 pm
      Let's get that F***ing fact straight. Most businessmen in football are out to make money.
      it is the truth dont you like and when did you jump on the FSG bandwagon .
      We needed to rebuild because we failed to take advantage of our 19/20 teams and they got older. Why dont you tell us which business men made money from football it is historically one way to loose a fortune. Twit and tw*t saw the value of the club raise to Ā£300mil not Ā£3billion or Ā£4billion our "business model" cost us over the past few years we could have won so much more and JĆ¼rgen deserved that backing.
      Waste of time discussing this as you dont want to look to the eventual outcome when  Linda pumps John Henry's heart just a bit too much and then the family come lookingfor the will and we will be at the mercy of a lot of greedy scumbags  and once again who has made money from Football at any time
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #431: Sep 03, 2023 07:01:59 pm
      And that's where the arguments starts from, people doing their own little mathematics, getting them wrong and then accuse fans of defending the owners.

      A boring F***ing argument that has been done to F***ing death and STILL there is no conclusive proof they are like G & H and taking money put of the club.

      Whatever they make off the back of us is down to their investment return.

      tell me that my figures are wrong then prove that those neg spend actually went back into the club 3 season with a neg spend of nearly Ā£80mil.
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #432: Sep 03, 2023 07:09:54 pm
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #433: Sep 03, 2023 07:35:25 pm
      tell me that my figures are wrong then prove that those neg spend actually went back into the club 3 season with a neg spend of nearly Ā£80mil.
      They are wrong - to even claim we made a profit over those three years is laughable especially when one of those years we had a net spend of over Ā£140mil 🤦ā€ā™‚ļø
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #434: Sep 03, 2023 08:37:19 pm
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #435: Sep 04, 2023 12:39:57 am
      Even if theyā€™re on the board ( which is very doubtful ) itā€™s still only one vote.


      Iā€™ll be back! In a year. 😂

      Promises, F***ing Promises!  :D
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      Re: Mohammed Salah >> Al Ittihad
      Reply #436: Sep 04, 2023 07:40:40 am
      I like how klopp put on salah was involved and talked about the future

      It makes it even more likely he canā€™t just now change his mind even if say 2m per week is offered

      I think this is a non story at this point, next summer is perfect for him to go, we donā€™t have the financial power of other teams where owners invest in their business so we need to use his money wisely next summer

      If you think about it, for the next 6-7 season,

      Attack sorted for the majority, just one youngster needed when salah goes which is nothing really since we have 4 players already

      Midfield, pretty much sorted, I would say when Thiago leaves, one more number 6 would be good

      Defence, rebuild required at cb, that is where the salah money of say 130-150m could go, plus maybe a little extra ourselves of 40-50m means we can spend 200m on the summer if needed for reinforcements in 3 key positions

      We have to take the salah money next summer, itā€™s our big shot in getting enough quality players in the summer

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